Music:::::傑出青少年音樂家大獎.....級別賽果

bebebe12345

級別賽事的賽果出來了
http://www.ymycompetition.org/

[ 本帖最後由 bebebe12345 於 10-12-3 14:18 編輯 ]

fcbttkw

原帖由 bebebe12345 於 10-12-3 13:37 發表
級別賽事的賽果出來了
http://www.ymycompetition.org/

8級竟然冇人可以入三甲？
呢個比賽要求都好高喎！

lillymarie

原帖由 fcbttkw 於 10-12-3 13:44 發表

8級竟然冇人可以入三甲？
呢個比賽要求都好高喎！

點解會無人入三甲既? 分數不夠?
有些1ST WINNER亦是榜上無名, 我以為最高分的就得第一呢!

busybusy

Ha??? Even no mark sheet?? that is not good woh!  If I joined, even I didnot get any prize, but I still want to get the comment what kind of the weakness, and what things I need to improve?

dicdic888

It was the 3rd YMY.

Why no winners in all grade 8?
- All good players didn't join YMY!

Why good players didn't go?
- After the last 2 YMY, they just found YMY was not a fair competition!

Why it is not a fair competition?
- All juries are from HK!

The organizer should feel shame to announce such a result but they didn't respect the competitors in the first place! :;pppp:

bebebe12345

個人已把"不公平"這點疑惑排除,但何以懸空獎項超過一半達33個!似乎少見!
可以的話,或許17日抽空去聽聽公開組。

[ 本帖最後由 bebebe12345 於 10-12-3 17:09 編輯 ]

dicdic888

FYI, David was also the judge of grade 8...
Highly qualify didn't mean fair and respect... I heard some of the open class players came out with tears because most of them could not finish their performance!!!
All prelimiary rounds were held CLOSED DOOR!!!
No marking sheet at the end...

原帖由 wootaitai 於 10-12-3 16:06 發表
maybe all the good players went to the open class.

Prof David Gwit was the judge (as in their website). He seemed to be highly qualified, hence so "picky"!?

We wont join again until we can join the  ...

pamelaywy

原帖由 dicdic888 於 10-12-3 17:01 發表
FYI, David was also the judge of grade 8...
Highly qualify didn't mean fair and respect... I heard some of the open class players came out with tears because most of them could not finish their perfor ...

All prelimiary rounds were held CLOSED DOOR!!!
No marking sheet at the end... 這一點我很認同
小兒今年也有參加今年的音樂家大獎, 以及參加過兩年的通利鋼琴比賽. 雖然小兒並不算什麼突出的小朋友, 但個人覺得凡通利舉辦的比賽, 無論人數多與少, 總是十個十個closed door 舉行初賽, 沒有分數, 沒有分紙, 沒有comments, 亦完全無從知道那天其餘十組八組中的其他參賽者表現如何, 就決定小朋友有沒有入決賽的機會. 記得小兒在其中一組的表現算是那組中很不錯的, 我不知道是否其他組別特別好, 還是我組的小朋友特別差, 但看到小朋友不能入圍而沒有死因, 真的覺得很unfair......

音樂人長老

Professor David Gwilt退休前係中大音樂系系主任，資歷深，要求高，而有份量比賽(指公開組)無第一、二名亦經常發生，但咁多分級組無prize winner就奇怪啲，有一組甚至只有第二名，唔通呢個比賽評判要求高過皇家音樂學院啲考官？有無比賽者喺學院考試攞Distinction但參加比賽就唔入圍呢？

[ 本帖最後由 音樂人長老 於 10-12-4 16:35 編輯 ]

lillymarie

原帖由 音樂人長老 於 10-12-4 16:34 發表
Professor David Gwilt退休前係中大音樂系系主任，資歷深，要求高，而有份量比賽(指公開組)無第一、二名亦經常發生，但咁多分級組無prize winner就奇怪啲，有一組甚至只有第二名，唔通呢個比賽評判要求高過皇家音樂學院啲考官？ ...

噢, 原來有些音樂比賽係會無第一, 二名. 咁即係個比賽本身要求一定既水準. 但係參加者知唔知道比賽所要求的水平呢? 考級試還有syllabus可以依循. 但比賽如果唔知最低要求, 大家苦練多個月, 參加了, 却不知道敗在何處, 亦真的有少少枉費心機呢.

周圍飛

有呀! 有人管樂組8級, 考皇家試係30, 29, 30都入唔到決賽, 初賽沒有失準但死因不明?!?!?!?!


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原帖由 音樂人長老 於 10-12-4 16:34 發表
Professor David Gwilt退休前係中大音樂系系主任，資歷深，要求高，而有份量比賽(指公開組)無第一、二名亦經常發生，但咁多分級組無prize winner就奇怪啲，有一組甚至只有第二名，唔通呢個比賽評判要求高過皇家音樂學院啲考官？ ...

[ 本帖最後由 周圍飛 於 10-12-4 19:01 編輯 ]

音樂人長老

有認受性的比賽原則係寧缺勿濫，賽例會列明評判可以隨時叫停，校際音樂節都有此一賽例，但好少會用到，所以香港學生唔慣，外國比賽同試音，頭嗰幾分鐘最重要，評判肯聽落去先有機會，評判唔係妳屋企人，唔夠水平佢哋唔會忍，香港學生喺比賽心理方面經驗不足，未來要抓緊機會多加訓練先會有好成績。

音樂人長老

原帖由 周圍飛 於 10-12-4 19:00 發表
有呀! 有人管樂組8級, 考皇家試係30, 29, 30都入唔到決賽, 初賽沒有失準但死因不明?!?!?!?!

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有呢個情況唔奇，Performance係一種技巧，由妳出台嗰一刻評判己經打分數，一行出嚟點樣有壓台感要不斷訓練，所謂唔打得都睇得。

lillymarie

原帖由 音樂人長老 於 10-12-4 19:06 發表
有認受性的比賽原則係寧缺勿濫，賽例會列明評判可以隨時叫停，校際音樂節都有此一賽例，但好少會用到，所以香港學生唔慣，外國比賽同試音，頭嗰幾分鐘最重要，評判肯聽落去先有機會，評判唔係妳屋企人，唔夠水平佢哋唔會忍，香港學生喺 ...

照咁講，比賽都係一門大學問。通常要有點樣的水準先好參加比賽呢？未計演繹前，需要零錯誤嗎？你所說的訓練是怎樣訓練？

音樂人長老

彈奏樂曲的準確性固然重要，因為妳唔係自由創作，要忠實地彈出樂曲的每一細節。但要打動評判就唔容易，要感動別人，彈奏者首先要感動自己，用心去聆聽自己彈出來的音效。

如果有志向這一方面發展，可以報考演藝學院，考上的話會有全面的訓練。做訓練要花唔少時間，私人教老師未必有時間做到。參加校際音樂節都是一個好學習機會。

dicdic888

That's a good point!!!
They said it is a competition for GRADE 8.  What kind of standard they expected? Yoyo Ma playing Monti? So radiculous to know someone got 30, 29, 30 in ABRSM was not even considered to be in the final.
I believe all kids and parents sent lots of time and money to prepare the competition so just want to share the experience with all parents here.  Our kid did get prize in the past and we had seats very near the stage at the final concert but we found few HKPO players were just laughing (slightly) when playing with some of the open-class finalists.   

原帖由 lillymarie 於 10-12-4 17:02 發表

噢, 原來有些音樂比賽係會無第一, 二名. 咁即係個比賽本身要求一定既水準. 但係參加者知唔知道比賽所要求的水平呢? 考級試還有syllabus可以依循. 但比賽如果唔知最低要求, 大家苦練多個月, 參加了, 却不知道敗在何 ...