Unfairness in Religion Mark and Parent relation Mark

Ving

If my children cannot enter good P1 school due to he is inferior to others in (Language, Music, EQ, Politeness), then I have nothing to say and accept.

But if due to religion + Parent relations, (e.g., the problem disclosed in York Kindergarten), then I really think that HK Education system is dead. What's your view on it?

ANChan59

Date back old days, most schools were run by churches either Catholic and Christian denominations or missionaries. After so many years, they are well established and the outputs or throughputs from those schools are above the par, that's why so many parents want their kids to study in those schools. Don't confused cause & effect.

Nowaday, parents turn it other way round, religionous schools should not favour their believers, should open for more non-believers (Catholic and Christian have only 6% each in Hong Kong population).

Most believers have another view, like If I am a Christian, I won't opt for other religionous schools. But a non-believer is open for all options.

If other non-religionous schools are better than religionous schools, are you have the same comment?

Also Catholic and Christian have schools from Band 1 to Band 3, we are only talking Band 1 religionous school....... how about Band 2-3, will they send their kids to study there......

[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 10-10-1 16:44 編輯 ]

Ving

Today is already year 2010, It is nonsense that HK Education system still have religion discrimination. If still adopting this system, it will only refrain good quality candidates from entering good schools. Is this the core values in Hong Kong?

"York kindergarten" is just the tip of the iceberg. If there is still such silly policy from our great Government, people will only use all kinds of diry means to achieve the objectives. Those so called "Educators" will use dirty dirty methods to earn money.

littlefaith

我自己係天主教徒，我都認為要取消宗教分。因為依家太多人諗盡方法入教去搏名校，入到名校「過咗海就神仙」，做「掛名教徒」，永世唔返教會，有啲仲會批評學校太多宗教活動，收咁多呢啲人，盞搞。

唔好計宗教分，會少咗好多心理不平衡嘅「掛名教友」。

[ 本帖最後由 littlefaith 於 10-10-1 18:01 編輯 ]

ANChan59

Personally, I prefer open examination which is fair.

So those parents assume their kids are bright and excellent may come up other excuses as their kids may not get into elite schools........

科舉......世襲.......科舉......世襲.......

ANChan59

如果教會學校係只有Band 2-3，唔知有無非教徒想入。

好多教會學校比其他學校好......點解呢......分別係宗教理念融入教育理念及多d老師既委身.......

Ving

Just want to know how come religion and parent mark related with childrens' personal capability and have preferences to good schools. Is this fair?

It seems that our "Education system" likes China and everything talking about relationship. Not much related with children's ability..

nicolemummy

如果入讀學校跟小朋友"能力"有關係, 這也是另一種不公平. 學校不是"有教無類"嗎? 為何發展慢點(不是遲緩)入讀學校機會少一點. 畢竟只是5歲人仔, 大仔和細仔的"年齡"差異是2成...

其實, 無論用那一個角度去說"公平", 都不合適.

我個人覺得宗教分係對的(我是沒有宗教分人士).

教會辦學, 大家又要爭教會既學校, 但又要批評給教會的5分. 就好像,

"老師, 你要教我個仔, 但你有位都唔好畀你自己個仔先, 因為咁樣唔公平".

教友金錢上捐獻支持教會, 教會可以辦學, 其他非教友又來想入學. 又批評教會優惠教友. 如覺得教會辦事不公, 不如不選教會辦的學校啦.

[ 本帖最後由 nicolemummy 於 10-10-1 19:03 編輯 ]

Ving

Actually, I don't agree that 小朋友"能力" 是另一種不公平 to assess whether he/she can go into good school or not.

If you have this viewpoint, then I think the most fair game is lucky draw. All Government/Sub/DSS/Private school P1 seats dig out for lucky draw and see who is lucky or not (Mark 6 lottery). That becomes the most fair and God's decision.

原帖由 nicolemummy 於 10-10-1 19:01 發表
如果入讀學校跟小朋友"能力"有關係, 這也是另一種不公平. 學校不是"有教無類"嗎? 為何發展慢點(不是遲緩)入讀學校機會少一點. 畢竟只是5歲人仔, 大仔和細仔的"年齡"差異是2成...

其實, 無論用那一個角度去說"公平", ...

nicolemummy

最公平是大派位, 連甚麼第一志願等都唔需要填, 電腦中央派位....

但係, 有幾多人想咁.

原帖由 Ving 於 10-10-1 19:11 發表
Actually, I don't agree that 小朋友"能力" 是另一種不公平 to assess whether he/she can go into good school or not.

If you have this viewpoint, then I think the most fair game is lucky draw. All Govern ...

ANChan59

原帖由 nicolemummy 於 10-10-1 19:39 發表
最公平是大派位, 連甚麼第一志願等都唔需要填, 電腦中央派位....
但係, 有幾多人想咁.

Most of those try whatever means and can't get into their target school(s) will support that.

littlefaith

最公平係將全部學校打散，改埋名，重新玩過，變哂做「國家第一小學」、「國家第二小學」，咁到時咪唔會再有人爭入DBS、LS、SPCC囉，因為呢啲學校都已經唔存在囉。

panbaby

又要入人地教會學校, 又唔俾人地選有信教學生, 咁人家做傳什麼教? 可以去官校呀...