Sharing of IB vs NSS

ANChan59

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火柴
It's great to have a student join in the discussion and share your first hand info with us.

First, my son not study in your school, but I know some friends's kids study in your school. But they don't take IB and only take DSE and plan to study overseas, which is quite contradict your vice-principal's comment on IB vs DSE. They didnt take your school's IB due to the following reasons:

1. Their kids' English standard not so good to take IB;
2. The work load is too demanding; and
3. They pick the school because of the special curriculum and IB approach. It takes too long to run IB finally, they are not comfortable about the IB. They cross checked with other IB schools and discovered the info from ex-principal and vice principal may not the true picture of IB, like their students go for DSE and IB simultaneously.....


HKDSE and IB students can apply local universities, not necessary go for overseas. You need to have critical thinking  mindset to evaluate different sources of info. I can assure you, you are practicing critical thinking right now. If the school follow DBS and SPCC, you can apply both curriculum first and wait for the final results in July, then make the final decision. 用時間換取空間。Most of your questions are discussed in this thread, you can share with your parents and seek for their views and support.


When we discussed IB PG, 24 is the passing mark to grant the diploma only. In HKUST, they prefer students score 30+. 36+ aim for popular program like BBA QFin.... If you take HKDSE, you also need to good grades. For low grades in IB, you can get in not so popular programs easily, but not Big 3. Apply local university, you can only
pick either JUPAS or non-JUPAS, so why you listen to your vice-principal to take both HKDSE & IBDP together. Pick one, focus and work hard, "One bird in nand...."

More personal question, can you learn some skills, mindset, exposure for life in IB and or DSE? If yes, do you mind to work extremely hard at this stage and enjoy more in college?

I guess other parents will provide better advices for you......

ANChan59

ANChan59

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All HK offers are conditional offers, but some said conditional offers just equivalent to unconditional offers, very reasonable. Offers from UK are conditional, North American universities offers are unconditional.
You can make an appointment with your son's IB adviser, and or university counselor (Leo Zen), they can share  more details with you.

ANChan59

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It's my pleasure to read your sharing, you know what you are doing and your weakness, it's a good start.
Can you list out your action plan and goals for coming term for yourself? I guess you can improve a lot academically in both Chinese and English, then make your final decision in July.

ANChan59

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Work out the questions you want to ask with your boy, get him heavily involve before meeting with the adviser.
Encourage him to chat with seniors, he can get views from students angle, which also very useful and reviewing.

ANChan59

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Riccichu
Our sons may not want us to talk about their details here, I will reply to you in PM.

ANChan59

ANChan59

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He also considers local universities as well???

ANChan59

I received inquiries from a few parents related to DBS and SPCC written examination, both will be held on the same date.....

According to parents' info, they received the letter from SPCC and then received the telephone call from DBS. They guessed DBS did it intentionally.

I am not sure DBS did it intentionally or not, but the clash may help SPCC a lot in interview (A typical question for all boys, "If you have both offers, which you will take, SPCC and DBS?". My son provided an honest answer was turned down by SPCC 2 years ago, similar stories for a couple of his classmates from other schools.) and confirm the boys take up the written exam more likely to take up the SPCC offers finally.

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chuntam 發表於 12-3-15 20:59
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咁玩法咪搞到男孩子們通通都去了dbs?!(因為平靚正)那………spcc(ib)豈不是成了女校( ...

Not necessary, SPCC will articulate the ratio tactfully. 50-50....... DSS can do that.

ANChan59

日誌：國際文憑預科課程（IBDP) – 1-9

因為版主ZZdaphne及其他家長的建議，我嘗試像IB的基本資料及個人分享匯總，修訂及以中文編寫，希望更多家長從中了解IB的特色及困難，對兒女升學作有用參考。

我先在日誌刊出，希望其他家長及有識之士加以指正後，才在"高中教育"刊出。

ANChan59

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Check your PM.

ANChan59

國際文憑預科課程（IBDP) - 1-13

http://www.edu-kingdom.com/home. ... om=space&page=3

ANChan59

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Hi, nice to see you around, how's your preparation for exam?
其實美國d大學係唔係多數都會叫你考埋SAT就算係IB都好? (Yes, correct)
同埋好似淨係睇HL exam score? (In US, not necessary, most students got firm offers based on SAT only, and no need to sit for IBDP. Some got the offer but still want to finish the IBDP first. US universities consider HL as equivalent to AP) 仲要全部5-7 minimum requirement (That's for credit recognition only, just like AP.).
DSE係美國都有承認但唔多. (Yes, takes time.)
講真HL要5-7真係唔容易 (Yes, correct.)

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Just curiosity, AP pass can get credit or also need merit or distinction? What's the passing mark for AP? Do you know the score boundaries of IB grading.
For IB, I have different observation, if most IBers are above average students in most countries, even so so students may go for overseas high schools or other curriculum. So better chance for better grades is reasonable. Of course, we have more IB schools in HK, the standard is diversified, we can see more clearly in coming years,

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Thanks for your detail explanation and I am just so so in US system. My son even got credit in Maths only from EPGY, it's a bonus and not our focus.
For IB score boundary, the detail info of most subjects are as follow:
http://www.ibgwhs.site11.com/IB%20Grade%20Boundaries%202011.pdf

According to my son's personal experience, AP Maths is easier than HL Maths in IB for the top grade. Unfortunately, IB is not a national exam, so the treatment just like our HKALE, need 120% achievement and get 100% recognition from overseas universities. Lucky enough, my son study IB for better education and then better universities, not the opposite way.

He focuses on local universities and then UK top universities, further will be US universities. I guess his chance for Ivy League is slim, reasonable top universities with firm offers as back up to wait for IBDP results for conditional offers.

Thanks again.

ANChan59

In recent weeks, I received plenty good news from some parents that their kids are received conditional offers for IBDP from DBS through PM. I can see the entry requirement is getting higher and higher...... So kids need to work harder to secure a place.

Just for your info, even you are very very top current schools, in IBDP and DBS, you need time to settle and adapt the new learning environment and methodology, so be parltience.

ANChan59

Mighty 發表於 12-8-21 13:24 
其実想一想、DBS大家都知道是本地名校、圧力大、会谷、反観ESF学校、学生都是比較HEA下HEA下的、BUT成績都 ...

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事實上學校未必好谷，反而學生自己及家長會緊張些，部分期望入名牌大學及學科，我可能是其中一個家長。

我不想比較誰谷誰hea, 因為各人樣本不同，難以比較，無謂口水戰。反而従實際的角度看lB。

我識得的朋友，如果有孩子讀lBDP，每人都說十分辛苦及有挑戰性，不論是LPC，IS，ESF或DSS學校，所以hea是較困難，如果是天才，又當別論。小兒讀了一年lB預備班，及完成lBDP第一年，因為功課量及多完化，老師的要求配合lBO的理念，用在功課時間是多了，睡眠時間少了，交功課時間較複雜，所以時間管理是明顯進步了。


在DBS，所有學生都可以選lB及NSS，學生在面試時已知道功課是不少，要求亦高，不要以為比NSS輕鬆。部分考試精明的學生不一定選lB。


語文訓練方面，我十分慶幸小兒在相對略低水平，在老師諄諄教導下，進步十分鼓舞，令我們看到合適環境及師訓下，小班教學是有果效的。


老師挑戰他們的觀點，讓他們的視野拉闊，明白不同文化背景對同一事件的不同角度；學懂欣賞及尊重其他人的觀點，學識如何善意批評或給同學的正確反饋。


我看到學生的豐盛得著，遠超於38。


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Some reflections from another thread.

ANChan59

我用中文詳細寫了13 篇日誌有關IBDP，希望對IBDP有興趣的家長有幫助。

http://www.edu-kingdom.com/home. ... e&classid=19&page=2

ANChan59

各位，因為小兒曾經上過英文寫作班及操卷班是4年前的事，他上了兩個學期，跟著沒有再上，所以資料已經過了時間性，參考作用不大，所以在數月前我已經不再提供，不想誤導其他家長，抱歉！

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slamai 發表於 11-11-10 18:14
ANChan59

I've marked my suggestion in your last post below. While QFin as a 2nd choice for CUHK is  ...

slamai
The final choices, my son took QFin as second choice in CUHK and BBA in HKUST, he got both offers and he ultimately got into CUHK.

In his CUHK personal statement, 60% medic, 40% QFin. Medic doesn't care in interview, but QFin did care about that.

ANChan59