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芬蘭教育成功之道

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發表於 09-2-4 12:45 |顯示全部帖子

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芬蘭和香港的文化不同。

無論家長、社會對學校、學生的期望都不同,想香港變成學生天堂,先改變大人的想法吧!

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發表於 09-2-4 23:58 |顯示全部帖子
Recently, I read a book called 沒有資優班 written by a Taiwan mum (Yolanda Chen).  It is compenhensive about education system in Finland.

I think the major problem here in Hong Kong is the obstruction/ interference from the government.  In Finland, teachers are respected and have freedom to teach.  They will design programme according to the need of the students.

Many issues mentioned in the book indeed can be borrowed.

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發表於 09-2-5 08:41 |顯示全部帖子
"沒有資優班"真的写得很好,值得关心教育的大家读一读。

过要香港学芬蘭就可能永無此日了。

不单是官僚架構要大改,家長要改變教育子女觀念。教育界的既得利益者,也不見得会同意。

而且在歷史和政治上,芬蘭在二战後作為战敗国,曾要在一个半宗主国苏联的陰影下求存。这也許是使他们在苏联瓦解之後,能重新掌握国家命運於自己手中,並在真正合理的民主機制下,全民對一系列国家政策的反思及達到共識後,所取得的其中一个改革成果。

在香港的唯长官意志环境中,大家吹吹水、自求多福好了。

刚刚上了 Finland 政府的教育网站,他们對人口祇有一万三千的遊牧族羣的关心真是使人感动。 Last update of this page is 3/2/09.


http://www.edu.fi/english/SubPage.asp?path=500,4699,88622,6276


Also find an article from Washington Post dating back to 2005.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/05/AR2005080502015.html

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發表於 09-2-5 13:00 |顯示全部帖子
The most impressive part about Finland education system is that they really can provide quality education on an equal basis.  Every kid, no matter what his background is, can receive good education.  They are provided with good quality textbooks, transport from remote area, and even lunch, completely out of government funds.  

Most parents' attitide here in Hong Kong is that the majority want their kid to learn faster than the others.  This is very different from those in Finland.  They suggest "No one left behind".  The end result of Finland education system is encouraging.  Parents here should think or re-think whether this approach works.

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發表於 09-2-5 14:36 |顯示全部帖子
In today's Metro, the columnist highlighted the differences in teacher's training and social status in Finland compared to that in other countries (western countries included).  I reckon it may be the most important element in the formula.  Can you imagine that a teacher aspiring to be a subject specialist needs to complete a five-year course and a master's degree?

I recalled Principal Lau of CKY had noted that only the 'best' students would, and could, pursue a teaching career.  And a teacher in Finland commands much respect and honor too.  I doubt it would happen in HK in the near term as it involves an overhaul of social values.

Anyway, I agree that certain references to best practices in Finland can be made for HK purpose.

[ 本帖最後由 papa_pop 於 09-2-5 15:06 編輯 ]

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發表於 09-2-5 14:52 |顯示全部帖子
Even the Government doesn't interference the teachers, the parents do as Hong Kong is now "顧客"至上!

原帖由 cherubic 於 09-2-4 11:58 PM 發表
... I think the major problem here in Hong Kong is the obstruction/ interference from the government.  In Finland, teachers are respected and have freedom to teach.  They will design programme according to the need of the students. ...

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發表於 09-2-5 14:56 |顯示全部帖子
I read a book about Finland education too.  Their parents don't mind the teaching progress of the class.  The teachers teach the students to respect each other and they will only continue until all of the students can be able to follow each step.  How about Hong Kong?  The teachers cannot do so because of the syllabus!  The teachers even don't have enough time for teaching the average students.  How can the teachers ask the whole class to wait for the weak students?

原帖由 cherubic 於 09-2-5 01:00 PM 發表
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Most parents' attitide here in Hong Kong is that the majority want their kid to learn faster than the others.  This is very different from those in Finland.  They suggest "No one left behind".  The end result of Finland education system is encouraging.  Parents here should think or re-think whether this approach works.

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發表於 09-2-5 18:25 |顯示全部帖子
I totally agree with this point.  In one way or another, we are trying to put our kid in better school which employs teachers with higher qualification.  However it's done at a price.  We no longer enjoy free education.

One thing our government can borrow from Finland is to encourage kids to develop reading habit.


原帖由 papa_pop 於 09-2-5 14:36 發表
In today's Metro, the columnist highlighted the differences in teacher's training and social status in Finland compared to that in other countries (western countries included).  I reckon it may be the ...

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發表於 09-2-5 18:47 |顯示全部帖子
We, as parents, should be more responsible to the children's reading habit than the government.  

Even the school system is asking for more reading, home support to the reading quality is equally important.  

I will like to select books alongside with my boy and don't want to see the government dictating the children's reading list, especially this one.

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發表於 09-2-6 13:03 |顯示全部帖子
芬蘭五百萬人口, 有大學二十間, 大學生十多萬人.  全民識字率, 教育水準高, 初級教育的老師都多為碩士級人馬. 教師受到尊崇, 教學自主度高.  學生為爭取大學入塲劵競爭少, 不用花大量時間在應付考試上, 學習效果自然好.

美國也要向芬蘭教育取經.  以香港條件, 學芬蘭教育模式, 當然學不了.  不過當有可借鏡地方, 芬蘭教育資源人力傾向幫助成績最差三成學生.  香港反其道而行, 成績好學生最多機會最受照顧, 弱勢家庭弱勢學生小一入學開始已受到競爭淘汰.  另一點是, 芬蘭教學好的老師成為其他老師學習對象, 整體可提高教學效果.  這點也是可借鏡的, 老師能力不夠, 亦也在教學方法上改善.

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發表於 09-2-17 19:14 |顯示全部帖子
是的!真的唔知現在嘅小朋友是幸福還是辛苦?星期六、日一day去上幾個class,為了要出人頭地,乜都要學。我同老公講將來只希望個女係為興趣及開心而學,並不是為將來出路為份工而學!

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發表於 09-2-22 01:02 |顯示全部帖子
原帖由 cstchan 於 09-2-4 12:54 發表
芬蘭和香港的文化不同。

無論家長、社會對學校、學生的期望都不同,想香港變成學生天堂,先改變大人的想法吧!


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