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COCO0624

星期日聽完家長講座,完來間學校由小一至小二要學5種語言,夠竟真唔真???又聽講上年小一O個班走左2X人,咁係咪代表間學校有問題??間學校比我感覺好商業,因為佢地不停強調要令小朋友成為英語精英, 目的將來投入社會工作可以搵更多, 佢地又不斷踩低其他學校, 其他教授, 講佢地英文唔掂, 又不停抬高自己, 另外記得有家長提問,如果到時小朋友真係跟唔上,因為實在學太多語言,咁學校會點做, 某副校長話會利用小息時間幫小朋友,嘩,好得人驚,連小息時間都唔放過,真係好想知道間學校夠竟D小朋友讀得開心嗎?家長又辛唔辛苦呢?

一家三口

原帖由 COCO0624 於 08-8-25 16:27 發表
星期日聽完家長講座,完來間學校由小一至小二要學5種語言,夠竟真唔真???又聽講上年小一O個班走左2X人,咁係咪代表間學校有問題??間學校比我感覺好商業,因為佢地不停強調要令小朋友成為英語精英, 目的將來投入社會工作 ...

星期日聽完家長講座,完來間學校由小一至小二要學5種語言,夠竟真唔真???>>>>5種語言分別係英文, 普通話, 日文,法文和西班牙文. 而日文, 法文, 西班牙文只係每一個term 學1種, 而到小三就要選定一科讀上去.又聽講上年小一O個班走左2X人,咁係咪代表間學校有問題??>>>>我認識的小朋友冇人走過.間學校比我感覺好商業,因為佢地不停強調要令小朋友成為英語精英, 目的將來投入社會工作可以搵更多,>>>事實學校係以英文為主. 佢地又不斷踩低其他學校, 其他教授, 講佢地英文唔掂, 又不停抬高自己, 另外記得有家長提問,如果到時小朋友真係跟唔上,因為實在學太多語言,咁學校會點做, 某副校長話會利用小息時間幫小朋友,嘩,好得人驚,連小息時間都唔放過>>>我囡囡只係升小二, 呢樣唔清楚,真係好想知道間學校夠竟D小朋友讀得開心嗎?>>>我囡囡係讀得好開心.家長又辛唔辛苦呢?>>>家長點解會辛苦????

[ 本帖最後由 一家三口 於 08-8-25 17:10 編輯 ]

YoYoCheungMa

星期日我沒有到學校聽小一講座，但我都十分驚訝你會對學校有此感覺，學校的優點你會看成缺點，或者是大家看法不同吧！小一小二可以學齊三種語言，是學基本簡單詞語，而且是不用考試的．
另外小一嗰班走了廿幾人，我都想知係咪真?我真係唔覺wow,你的資料從那裡來?
我囡囡在此校讀得很開心，係一點壓力都冇，我放工後六點鐘返到屋企，阿囡的功課已差不多搞掂哂，仲有時間練琴睇電視．雖然如此，阿囡在學校所學到的絕對是比想像的更多．

原帖由 COCO0624 於 08-8-25 16:27 發表
星期日聽完家長講座,完來間學校由小一至小二要學5種語言,夠竟真唔真???又聽講上年小一O個班走左2X人,咁係咪代表間學校有問題??間學校比我感覺好商業,因為佢地不停強調要令小朋友成為英語精英, 目的將來投入社會工作 ...

COCO0624

YoYoCheungMa ,一家三口:

小一走2x人我都係聽朋友講,你地小朋友真係好開心?咁請問兩位,學習另外三種語言,雖要補習嗎?你地對呢間小學升中有無信心?

THANK~

一家三口

原帖由 COCO0624 於 08-8-27 20:34 發表
YoYoCheungMa ,一家三口:

小一走2x人我都係聽朋友講,你地小朋友真係好開心?咁請問兩位,學習另外三種語言,雖要補習嗎?你地對呢間小學升中有無信心?

THANK~ ...

今年小一升小二都係只有一位學生退學咋. 或者你問吓你朋友响邊樹聽番黎有成2x多個學生退學啦.

小一小二外語係唔駛考試, 所以不用補習住. 升中呢個問題.......我地學校唔會參加升中派位, 所以小學部的學生應該全數會升上中學部.

[ 本帖最後由 一家三口 於 08-8-27 21:05 編輯 ]

YoYoCheungMa

小一學外語唔洗補習架,學校唔係要迫小朋友去學外語,所以我都唔擔心!
我暫時對中學部的認識唔多,不過相信到小五小六的時候,學校會講多些中學部的事比家長認識的.

原帖由 COCO0624 於 08-8-27 20:34 發表
YoYoCheungMa ,一家三口:

小一走2x人我都係聽朋友講,你地小朋友真係好開心?咁請問兩位,學習另外三種語言,雖要補習嗎?你地對呢間小學升中有無信心?

THANK~ ...

G-Ma

COCO0624

sm唔係一間"谷"既小學, 學多幾種外語, 只係想比小朋友接觸一下, 一d壓力都無, 主要都係以唱遊形式, 所以小朋友係上得好開心.

入咗sm小學既家長, 大部份都疊埋心水直升上中學. 因為其他中學英語環境未必有sm好, 外籍老師多, 而且亦未必有機會學到多一種外語, 再加上所有同學都一齊由小學升上去, 大家感情又好, 又唔駛再適應新環境.

COCO0624

一家三口:

學校唔會參加升中派位?咁如果想讀另外O個D中學又應該點做?唔該

原帖由 一家三口 於 08-8-27 21:03 發表


今年小一升小二都係只有一位學生退學咋. 或者你問吓你朋友响邊樹聽番黎有成2x多個學生退學啦.

小一小二外語係唔駛考試, 所以不用補習住. 升中呢個問題.......我地學校唔會參加升中派位, 所以小學部的 ...

一家三口

原帖由 COCO0624 於 08-8-28 21:15 發表
一家三口:

學校唔會參加升中派位?咁如果想讀另外O個D中學又應該點做?唔該

小囡只係升小二, 暫時未考慮這個問題, 但大多數會直升, 因為想小囡繼續學外語(最想學spanish). 而外間亦不是太多中學有外語學啊!

catcatmom

過住兩年我都有去st margaret 聽briefing, 去年係英文,今年係下午中文說明會, 至於亞校董利先生, 係這兩年都出來談論英文發音, 其實佢都無特別去踩d學校老師or大學教授, 因為這些都係事實, 香港d英文, 唔單只係<港式英文>, 連發音都錯. 唔好又搬d美式英語, 澳式口音既英文來掩飾港式英文, 我睇佢地外國電視節目既英文都係字正腔圓.

SM升到上小3, 先至比d小朋友選定一樣語言來學, 之前都係比d小朋友當興趣班甘接觸吓. 唔冼甘認真喎!我覺得就算上到小3之後, 多學一種語言, 都係比d小朋友多一方面既發展, 好似都count少少考試分. ,而學校主力和時間都會係番主科度.
以上資料係SM高年班家長提供, 錯請更正.

我最近曾經都去過參觀過另一間學校, 形式同SM好似, 都係收30%外籍學校, 佢地教既日文都係錯既 ! 雖然佢有一個日藉既老師站左係度, 但我相信佢唔係主教.

另外, 有小朋友追唔上, 而老師又肯係小息時候去教番小朋友, 你估你小朋友犧牲大, 還是老師呢 ?我睇怕無mud學校會甘好. 好多叫你出去請補習! 有一間德x既老師, 個女追唔上, 老師叫佢亞媽唔好做野, 睇著亞女d功課or請補習老師日日跟功課.

原帖由 COCO0624 於 08-8-25 16:27 發表
星期日聽完家長講座,完來間學校由小一至小二要學5種語言,夠竟真唔真???又聽講上年小一O個班走左2X人,咁係咪代表間學校有問題??間學校比我感覺好商業,因為佢地不停強調要令小朋友成為英語精英, 目的將來投入社會工作 ...

[ 本帖最後由 catcatmom 於 08-8-29 13:31 編輯 ]

COCO0624

catcatmon,

好多謝你既意見,咁又謝問聖方濟各英小同呢間你又會點揀呢?請各位多多指教.

原帖由 catcatmom 於 08-8-29 13:29 發表
過住兩年我都有去st margaret 聽briefing, 去年係英文,今年係下午中文說明會, 至於亞校董利先生, 係這兩年都出來談論英文發音, 其實佢都無特別去踩d學校老師or大學教授, 因為這些都係事實, 香港d英文, 唔單只係, 連 ...

catcatmom

COCO0624

我對sfa唔係好熟, 只知佢考筆試入去. 我其中一個上司個仔n年前係讀sfa,小學成績名列前茅(全級10名). 當年分5個band, 佢好順利考入當年一間名校, 因sfa樣樣都讀高人一grade, 所以佢上到中學一路都唔讀書,(聽聞sfa好多功課,可能做怕曬. ),而且間xxxx中學出名free, 無功課. 甘到考完會考英文得"d". 總分14, 轉轉接接讀完大學, 讀d無人讀科目-美術.   

另一位媽咪係補習班識既, 家庭主婦, 係囡囡, 係sfa讀得幾好, 因囡囡聽話,  媽媽早年已安排了英,數補習班, 學校成績唔錯. sfa係讀中文數學為主,亞sfa校長話, 個thinking好d喎!
如果我無做野, 亞女又讀得之人, 同時如果sfa又全部subject用英文教的話, 我會選sfa, 老實說學費都平一千呢. 但以上三樣野都不是.   

如果小朋友係讀得, 家長又好緊張d成績, 0甘選sfa可能arm佢d, sfa 係中英數程度都好高, 因佢係小一入學時候都選左批讀得既學生.因sms初期係比較輕鬆,如果好緊張小朋友既成績既話, 個心就0羅0羅0亂+啦!

聖瑪加利同sfa兩類型既小學.        

原帖由 COCO0624 於 08-8-30 07:15 發表
catcatmon,

好多謝你既意見,咁又謝問聖方濟各英小同呢間你又會點揀呢?請各位多多指教.

[ 本帖最後由 catcatmom 於 08-9-1 02:49 編輯 ]

ChapmanMa

Do you mind to tell me which school your daugther is studying now ?   If such, you also prefer SMC, right ?

原帖由 catcatmom 於 08-9-1 00:18 發表
COCO0624

我對sfa唔係好熟, 只知佢考筆試入去. 我其中一個上司個仔n年前係讀sfa,小學成績名列前茅(全級10名). 當年分5個band, 佢好順利考入當年一間名校, 因sfa樣樣都讀高人一grade, 所以佢上到中學一路都唔讀書,( ...

monkeydad

COCO0624,

I was really shocked by your comments - jumping to the conclusion without due dilligence.

Learning Japanese, Spanish and French is to add language / cultural exposure to the kids (a merit indeed) and the syllabus is NOT demanding.  The kids learn the three langugages by in 3 different school terms, i.e. only ONE in one term.  There is NO test nor exam.

English is really an important means of communication, though Mandarin is of rising importance.  We, as parents, appreciate very much the school's strong emphasis on English as well as its thoughts and efforts in developing our kids to be the "Elite".

I do not understand why there is a rumour of 2x students quitting the school.  I hab talked to a number of SM parents in senior class and none of them was aware of this.

原帖由 COCO0624 於 08-8-25 16:27 發表
星期日聽完家長講座,完來間學校由小一至小二要學5種語言,夠竟真唔真???又聽講上年小一O個班走左2X人,咁係咪代表間學校有問題??間學校比我感覺好商業,因為佢地不停強調要令小朋友成為英語精英, 目的將來投入社會工作 ...

CHIULHJ

Hi Monkeydad,

首先，很感謝你, G-Ma, 一家三口, YoYoCheungMa...等一直熱心回答家長門對 St Margaret 存有的所有問題。

我跟樓主一樣感受，小一簡介會給我商業及功利的味道，他們太偏重強調語言能力的重要，其實，教育包括很廣的範疇，提昇語言能力只是其中一項，不可能在簡介會內花80%以上時間去細說，對於具體怎樣提昇學生學習興趣、培養他們成為有愛心、有責任感、有自制力、有獨立思考能力、對社會有承擔...等部份，幾乎沒有提及。雖然我出席的簡介會數量不多，但其他的會有更全面及更深入的介紹。

然而，我仍對 St Margaret 有興趣，因我知道你們的囝囝囡囡很喜愛上學，老師們有愛心，而且擁有一班像你們這般支持學校的家長，St Margaret 必定有她吸引之處；你們能否提供多些具體實例，引証 St Margaret 是我們值得為子女挑選的好學校。

原帖由 monkeydad 於 08-9-24 09:56 發表
COCO0624,

I was really shocked by your comments - jumping to the conclusion without due dilligence.

Learning Japanese, Spanish and French is to add language / cultural exposure to the kids (a merit  ...

catcatmom

CHIULHJ
每次聽完SMC小一說明會, 一些家長都說SMC既賣點只係英文. 其實會完了之後, 利校董,正副校長,主任, 老師都stay behind係雨天操場, 企足成鐘, 比家長問問題, 她們好熱情地回答喎! 學校mission, 方針, 都係說明會度有講, 不過講得好少, 可能係佢份leaflet都寫得清楚.
學校強調係好重視phonetic,甘係寫唔到, 咪年年利校董出來show 吓quali.
我去過好多小學說明會, SMC辦得唔錯, 星期6/日都開.

我試過去其中一間直資小學,家長d問題要寫紙, 放係個盒, 到校長手就抽一二條答, 之後散會無得現場問, 果位校長話由於時間關係, 會係學校web回答今次家長既題問,結果更係無啦! 之後好多家長係bk唱個校長"言而無信".   

原帖由 CHIULHJ 於 08-9-24 13:57 發表
Hi Monkeydad,

首先，很感謝你, G-Ma, 一家三口, YoYoCheungMa...等一直熱心回答家長門對 St Margaret 存有的所有問題。

我跟樓主一樣感受，小一簡介會給我商業及功利的味道，他們太偏重強調語言能力的重要，其實，教育包括 ...

monkeydad

Hi CHIULHJ,

I didn't attend this year's briefing.  From the one I attened last year (quite similar to what you commented), to be frank, I got bored and shared some of your thoughts.

We changed our mind (1) after the 2nd interview in which we had a very helpful discussion with the Vice Principal; (2) communications with many SMC parents; (3) various spot visits to the school campus.

As advocated in the briefing session, SMC puts strong emphasis on English.  As such, the school hires a higher proportion of NET in teaching English (which is definitely a plus to students and parents) and uses English as the medium of instruction in most of the subjects starting P1.  The school also organizes optional after school tuition on Cambridge English to raise the English standard of its students.  It has been doing what it advocates in the briefing session, not just bullshit.  Dr Li spent so much time on this topic because this is perhaps the area that SMC really differentiates itself from other DSSs.

Besides, the school also encourages multi-cultural exchange - (1) accepting some 20% of non-local students; (2) launch of modern languages - Japanese, Spanish and French as early as in P1; and (3) arranged summer schools in Japan, France and China for those studying Japanese, French and Putonhua last summer.  This is a plus to its students in context of the current and acceleration of globalization.

Apart from academic, the school also put a great deal of emphasis on extra-curriculum activities.  All P1 students are required to join one uniform team and to participate in 10+ talent classes in 2 years time before they pick up their interest / preference in P3.  My boy is assigned for Cricket, Chinese Opera, Drawing and Table Tennis for the year.  Each talent class / interest class will last for app. 2 months with 8-10 lessons.  All these are included in the school fee.

Besides, the school also invite external teachings on various musical instruments, Brazilian football, taekwondo, Chinese Dance, swimming etc... which are optional and the school provides the venue.

If you have a chance to pass by the school, please have a look on the various cups and awards its students have attained in extra-curriculum activities (in front of the school office).  They already filled up a number of cabinets.

The school also provides enrichment class and enhancement class for students of different levels.  In addition, there is the homework club with S6 students acting as tutors to help those primary students who have difficulties in doing homework.

All in all, we would say SMC is a quite good school.  It is not yet comparable to St Paul, DBS, DGS, Good Hope... but teachers are really caring.  Parents are given the direct lines of each teachers which enable quick and direct access.

We have gone through the same process last year.  It was not easy nor fun.  All depends on what you are looking for and the type of your kid.  If the school meets most of your criteria and you see fit for your kid, it is definitely a good school.

原帖由 CHIULHJ 於 08-9-24 13:57 發表
Hi Monkeydad,

首先，很感謝你, G-Ma, 一家三口, YoYoCheungMa...等一直熱心回答家長門對 St Margaret 存有的所有問題。

我跟樓主一樣感受，小一簡介會給我商業及功利的味道，他們太偏重強調語言能力的重要，其實，教育包括 ...

HKQQbaby

CHIULHJ:

"我跟樓主一樣感受，小一簡介會給我商業及功利的味道，他們太偏重強調語言能力的重要，其實，教育包括很廣的範疇，提昇語言能力只是其中一項，"

很奇怪上述感受對不同人有不同看法: 於我而言,學校不是商業及功利, 而是"實在".

實際上學校並不只看重語言能力,其他課外活動亦有要求, 且他是教會學校,校規一樣很嚴.當然"語言能力"是該校賣點,且投放資源較多. 如學生在語言方面較弱(英文&普通話), 學起來會較吃力. 所以選學校需量力而為.
始終父母才最了解自己小孩
(以上只是我個人意見,歡迎互相交流心得)

原帖由 CHIULHJ 於 08-9-24 13:57 發表
Hi Monkeydad,

首先，很感謝你, G-Ma, 一家三口, YoYoCheungMa...等一直熱心回答家長門對 St Margaret 存有的所有問題。

我跟樓主一樣感受，小一簡介會給我商業及功利的味道，他們太偏重強調語言能力的重要，其實，教育包括 ...

AaronMa

Hi monkeydad,

It's indeed a very thorough description of the school characteristics.  I'm sure that the school puts great effort in creating a good English learning environment for the children.  But just one thing - do they focus too much on the language?  What's the standard of Maths / Chinese / General Studies??  Are these subjects on par with the other local schools??

Thanks in advance for your sharing.

catcatmom

HKQQbaby

同意! SMC既中國舞係學界經常攞獎,有文有武. 運動方面都很出色, 一齊係視學報告有寫, 自己上網搵吓打"key words"就有. 我聽過幾間小一說明會, 有多校長係高眼手低, 不設實際.  

原帖由 HKQQbaby 於 08-9-24 16:26 發表
CHIULHJ:

"我跟樓主一樣感受，小一簡介會給我商業及功利的味道，他們太偏重強調語言能力的重要，其實，教育包括很廣的範疇，提昇語言能力只是其中一項，"

很奇怪上述感受對不同人有不同看法: 於我而言,學校不是商業及功利, 而 ...