你地心目的至TOP既國際小學系邊間?

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KimmyMammy

Don't play this game here, please!  If those parents who like to play the ranking game, they should rather send their kids to tradition schools of local system!!

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GSI,
But too expensive

nintendo

My observation is that, international school parents here at BK are with the same 3 - 4 international schools (namely ESF, SIS, ICS, etc.) Then we have merely a few from GSIS, AIS, HKIS, etc.

I think we can safely presume that everyone would rank their own child's school a top 3 school. With such "combination" of "parent population", I just do not think you would really get meaningful "poll" out of your topic.

PS. I am one of the majority.

[ 本文章最後由 nintendo 於 07-12-29 10:58 編輯 ]

van2006

Can anyone write down the full name( chinese or english) of the top 3 international school.

Cara2006

bk 係 esf 的地盤，當然最多人會話 esf 好啦。
esf 小學的學生，主要都係本地土生土長的學生，因為佢地有一個 policy，係先收 esf 幼稚園學生，但 esf 幼稚園 9 成學生都係本地土生學生，外籍孩子都很少讀 esf 幼稚園，因此，基本上 esf 小學小一就比 esf 幼稚園的本地土生孩子霸晒 d 位。
而新到香港的外籍孩子，就更加難入 esf，因為隨時要等上一兩年才能插班。亦因此，esf 學校 (尤其九龍區) 基本上 9 成係香港土生孩子。
esf 學費平，亦吸引了大量較中下階層的學生，他們父母很多都學歷不高，英語水平差，部份更只是勉強應付學費，這類家庭家中的英語環境差；當然父母希望孩子有好些的教育唔奇，就像國內人事賒借都要來講生 bb 一樣，好多本地中下階層，近年都看上了國際學校。
唔難見到單單 bk 都有好多人打聽 esf 的收費，部份都坦白表明，自己經濟環境，英語水平較差。
近年，好多 esf 孩子，家長本身知識水平英語水平都低，好多在家都幫唔到孩子學習，孩子去到三四年班，問題越是嚴重，學校亦會 "提醒" 家長，孩子的英文唔好，被要求出去惡補英文。 esf 亦有另一個包袱，就係唔可以好持本地名校咁，趕 d 差的學生走，話就好聽，話有教無類，但係校內如果身為國際學校，都竟然有大量英語差的學生，真係好匪夷所思。
自己諗下，孩子同咁多水平參差的小朋友做同學，在學校講的，是 broken 英文。
這裡好多 esf 家長，每次有人分析 esf 形勢，都比人話抹黑，但係 esf 有咁多學生，你地又知道有幾多 case 真係好的？又有幾多 case，係讀唔上去呢？講真，上得黎 bk，已經起碼係關心孩子學業的一群。我知有 d 家長，完全唔理孩子的事，從來唔 show up 參與孩子學校活動，亦唔會在家輔助孩子 reading，learning 等，當然，佢地亦從來唔上 bk，佢地的失敗 case，有幾多可以 "傳" 到 bk？
esf 家長當然唔會主動話你聽，衰 d 講，家醜不出外傳，知道有 d 差例子都唔會講。
其實 bk 以往都有好多家長講過 d esf 的好多問題，但次次都比人話，打你為 "抹黑" ，好多 topic 都沉晒底，反而 "唱好" esf 的，就不斷被 up 和附和。
我一直都被評為，孩子考唔到 esf，而上黎抹黑；我想掉轉頭問，我地大家都係網上交流，都只用網名，點解講 "缺點" 就一定係假，講 "好處" 就一定係真？
esf 家長們，其實我講的情形係唔係真，你地心裡有數。
未係 esf 家長們，你可以再想想我分析的收生情形，再估計學生的背景。
讀國際學校，都係想 "國際" 一些，如果國際學校被本地學生霸晒 d 位，會失去 "國際性"。我知 esf 而家有個新的 policy，比外國到港的孩子，可以預早 secure 個位，我覺得係好事，反正 esf 當年 establish 的目的唔係服務本地土生孩子，而係要為外籍孩子提供教育。
唔講喇。
要反搏我的，情討論內容，唔好又係話我孩子考唔到。

Cara2006

要排名，當然一定係 GSIS，HKIS 最好喇。
其他的，就係 CIS，CANIS，ICS，CAIS。

鳳梨

係外國even本地出生但屋企唔係用英文為first language, d小朋友都要上d"加強英語班"即"ESL", 所以我唔懷疑本地學生就算讀esf, d英文一定合標準.

請問你小朋友讀邊間IS呢?

原文章由 Cara2006 於 07-12-30 10:24 發表
bk 係 esf 的地盤，當然最多人會話 esf 好啦。
esf 小學的學生，主要都係本地土生土長的學生，因為佢地有一個 policy，係先收 esf 幼稚園學生，但 esf 幼稚園 9 成學生都係本地土生學生，外籍孩子都很少讀 esf 幼稚園，因此，基本上  ...

babyoush

原文章由 鳳梨 於 07-12-30 12:06 發表
係外國even本地出生但屋企唔係用英文為first language, d小朋友都要上d"加強英語班"即"ESL", 所以我唔懷疑本地學生就算讀esf, d英文一定合標準.

請問你小朋友讀邊間IS呢?


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我比小朋友讀IS但都打算同佢補英文, 雖然日日都同老師講, 屋企都有提供英語環境比佢地, 但始終唔係母語, 補下會安心D

happy_mum

Sorry to say that i also notice there is a lot of esf parents on this web-site.

原文章由 Cara2006 於 07-12-30 10:24 發表
bk 係 esf 的地盤，當然最多人會話 esf 好啦。
esf 小學的學生，主要都係本地土生土長的學生，因為佢地有一個 policy，係先收 esf 幼稚園學生，但 esf 幼稚園 9 成學生都係本地土生學生，外籍孩子都很少讀 esf 幼稚園，因此，基本上  ...

Yau_Cheung

原文章由 reneeleung 於 07-12-30 23:07 發表
其實cara2006講得好啱, 家長support唔到(學習方面), 選擇國際學校只會令小朋友得唔到適當的支援.
有有睇今期"go home" (差不多名), 訪問童愛玲, 佢個男讀gsis. ...

今期"go home" (差不多名), 訪問童愛玲, 佢個男讀gsis - Where can I watch?  Can you share more?

WYmom

原文章由 happy_mum 於 07-12-30 21:07 發表
Sorry to say that i also notice there is a lot of esf parents on this web-site.

Why sorry? ESF parents providing help and discussion is bad??  Don't you notice that actually most topics are questions raised by non-ESF parents?  How about many parents discussing those top famous local schools like DBS, LS, DGS, MCS etc. on BK?  Does it mean that these popular schools are bad??  

It takes a long time for any school to build up good track records and reputation, rational parents will understand a school through a lot of research using hard and soft data and personal visits.   There are always students performing very well to very bad in any school,  rational parents usually look at the average performance, % of good and bad results, and most importantly, your own way of educating kids.  e.g. HKIS has good results and reputation, it also has drug problems.  There is no point to rank schools of different countries using different cirriculum and educational systems based on someone's subjective comments, personal bias or hatred towards certain schools.

Parents of IS know that most IS help students to learn based on assessments of their own abilities, there is no rankings or comparisons with others.   IS schools use a lot of ways to encourage positive learning rather than use punishment.   The mentality is totally different from studying in local schools.  The ranking game is just a way to initiate unnecessary fights among different schools, just like in the local school session, most topics are comparing A school vs B school, and we will see people voting and attacking others endlessly!!  Very entertaining? Ha!

[ 本文章最後由 WYmom 於 07-12-31 08:17 編輯 ]

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好多謝你地既意見, 因為想為阿囡睇定國際學校的路, 看看如果部署會較好.

阿囡而家歲幾啦, 就黎要考幼稚園, 因為我個代阿媽唔會諗, 而家到我啦, 緊系想阿囡行條路好少少, 同佢選間較好既學校啦.

另外, 你地可唔可以將個學校簡寫寫為長寫呀, 因為對國際學校既名唔系太熟, 唔該晒.

Cayenne

原文章由 WYmom 於 07-12-31 08:15 發表

HKIS has good results and reputation, it also has drug problems.

Not trying to add fuel to any flame wars , but it is regrettable that  HKIS's  frank  approach to eradicate drug abuse makes it,   in the eyes of the uninitiated ,  not as an example of  pro-active pragmatism ,  but  a festering drug den.

Drug problem is epidemic. It's found in most  local schools, it's found in most international schools too  ( for an example, see here : http://www.geoexpat.com/forum/thread6245.html ).Most  schools prefer to sweep it under the carpet and pretend that it doesn't exist, ,  while schools like HKIS  who take  an active stand against drug  abuse are  stigmatized  as THE  schools  with drug problem.

My child was a HKIS student. He has friends from other IS and local schools  too. From  what he gathered, drug problem in IS is far less prevalent than many local schools, in contrast to HK urban mythology . HKIS, which maintains  a strict drug monitoring programme, probably  has even less.

WYmom

原文章由 Cayenne 於 07-12-31 11:51 發表

Not trying to add fuel to any flame wars , but it is regrettable that  HKIS's  frank  approach to eradicate drug abuse makes it,   in the eyes of the uninitiated ,  not as an example of  pr ...

Cayenne,

Understand your point.  HKIS is positive in preventing drug problem.  Yes, it is also one of the problems in other schools too, local or IS,  also see it in schools overseas.  Maybe the young generation nowadays in advanced countries are living too well!

Anyway, just feel that it is so naive to choose schools by ranking, especially IS are all different in their systems cater for different countries.

Yau_Cheung

原文章由 reneeleung 於 07-12-31 01:53 發表
sorry. 打錯字, 係童愛玲個仔,48歲讀gsis, 個訪問童愛玲有幾詳細分析點解選擇gsis同佢的步處方法. 但你可以睇下佢之前响明報的訪問, 差不多, 但今期"go home"詳細d. "go home"係一本magazine. 我响會所睇到.

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hi reneeleung,

Thanks!