勝負只在十分之錯

matthewdad

Those parants who manage to get 10 points more are smart as they are capable to get in good school in last generation and will still be operated up to now. Only bad schools are closed.

yiwa

任何事都有正反兩面, 沒有絕對公平. 世襲制不是絕對錯, 因父母當年也是這樣磨練出來, 十分清楚學校的程度和要求, 況且"虎父無犬子", 這樣收生錯不到那裡. 再者, old boys & old girls 只是分數佔優勢, 不是必收, 尤其是歷史悠久的傳統名校, 每年都有很多20分的也要失望而回, 也要講運氣.

直資和私校公開招生, 間間超額認購10多20倍. 有家長去完面試, 說面試兒戲, "做戲咁做", 無辦法啦, 如果唔係點見得完那千幾2千人! 再者, 係人都知世界上有"人脈"這東西, 或多或少都有因"識人"而被取錄, 也不是fair game!

各位家長, 其實大家選校時只是憑我們的社會經驗, 知道那些是好學校 (直接一點是名校), 人望高處, 望子成龍, 個個家長都想仔女入到我們心儀的學校. 但有沒有想過, 小朋友需要的是愉快的童年, 愉快的學校生活, 愛錫他的父母. 小朋友的字典裡沒有"名校", 那只是家長的心魔. 沒有學校會教小朋友學壞, 所以全部學校都是好學校. 小朋友只需要父母絕對愛他便夠了.

vesley

so ,without 人脈"這東西 we have to wait for the last cookie from the gov't.I will keep on my Mark 6.
TO BE HONEST, I AM JUST A BIT UPSET FOR HIS SCHOOL BUS FRIENDS AND PARENTS COMPARING MY KIDS .

For Matthew Dad,
yes ,our school were closed . not to consider it is not good enough but there is a lot of reason that we are not able to control.
Of all , our school is NOT A bad school.
JUST THAT IT IS NOT BLUE BLOOD.
It's insulting! :tongue:

[ 本文章最後由 vesley 於 07-11-26 23:35 編輯 ]

w_y

佢都唔清唔楚就亂 comment.
本人當年就讀之小學, 係因為該校原址要清拆, 新校址要跨區, 故校方決定 "暫時" 停辦, 直至物色到更合適新校址就會復辦. 並非因為收生不足.

原文章由 vesley 於 07-11-26 23:33 硐表
so ,without 人脈"這東西 we have to wait for the last cookie from the gov't.I will keep on my Mark 6.
TO BE HONEST, I AM JUST A BIT UPSET FOR HIS SCHOOL BUS FRIENDS AND PARENTS COMPARING MY KIDS .

For ...

smartcar

係人都知十分即係零分，呢個遊戲一D都不公平，至少我覺有奇視成分：
1.我不是校董
2.我沒有教師父母
3.我沒有哥姊
4.我不是大仔
5.我不是住市
6.我沒有入教

擺明奇視，係人都知；呢個教育制度失敗之餘亦教人一出世個就虛偽，香港政府失敗也！

嘉倩-YUKI

我路過啫,不過我好認同你的說法:
{人望高處, 望子成龍, 個個家長都想仔女入到我們心儀的學校. 但有沒有想過, 小朋友需要的是愉快的童年, 愉快的學校生活, 愛錫他的父母. 小朋友的字典裡沒有"名校", 那只是家長的心魔. 沒有學校會教小朋友學壞, 所以全部學校都是好學校. 小朋友只需要父母絕對愛他便夠了.}

原文章由 yiwa 於 07-11-26 23:15 硐表
任何事都有正反兩面, 沒有絕對公平. 世襲制不是絕對錯, 因父母當年也是這樣磨練出來, 十分清楚學校的程度和要求, 況且"虎父無犬子", 這樣收生錯不到那裡. 再者, old boys & old girls 只是分數佔優勢, 不是必收, 尤 ...

rdc888

原文章由 yiwa 於 07-11-26 23:15 硐表
任何事都有正反兩面, 沒有絕對公平. 世襲制不是絕對錯, 因父母當年也是這樣磨練出來, 十分清楚學校的程度和要求, 況且"虎父無犬子", 這樣收生錯不到那裡. 再者, old boys & old girls 只是分數佔優勢, 不是必收, 尤 ...

I totoally agree with your comment.

Helen'sMum

看到大家的討論令我想起以下"2年前"的相關連結 .......
其實"公平"這問題是不斷困擾每個參予者 ........

不公平遊戲
http://forum.baby-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=464156&extra=page%3D1&page=2

andrewpapa

To smart car

understand your feeling. but you assumption is base on you also want your children got acceptance from a famous school, right?

If that is the case, so we post an exam to a five yrs old child or post an exam to the parent.  

Or should have a lucky draw with no point system.  If that is the case, the old boy and old girl will complaint.  eg.  suppose is 100 after 20 headcounts and now will be 100 after 20 headcounts.

system only benefit for some parties and left other behind.  I think it's better to think of how can we change local society attitude on chasing famous school only.  and how can we put more resources to unfamous school to make them competitive.

therefore I am not concured your statment "呢個教育制度失敗之餘亦教人一出世個就虛偽"

I am not going to start an argument, just want to express my point on your statement

瑩瑩老豆

係呀, 我見唔少家長根本就係為自己找學校.
然後要個仔女去讀. :-|

原文章由 yiwa 於 07-11-26 23:15 硐表
各位家長, 其實大家選校時只是憑我們的社會經驗, 知道那些是好學校 (直接一點是名校), 人望高處, 望子成龍,個個家長都想仔女入到我們心儀的學校. 但有沒有想過, 小朋友需要的是愉快的童年, 愉快的學校生活, 愛錫他的父母.小朋友的字典裡沒有"名校", 那只是家長的心魔. 沒有學校會教小朋友學壞, 所以全部學校都是好學校. 小朋友只需要父母絕對愛他便夠了.

matthewdad

The existing system is not the best but I think it is very diversify:
1. DSS or private school - they can select based on any creteris they like... old girls, donation, examinations ..etc. I know some kids get stright in to St Paul Co-ed, DGS and DBS, no need to have any interview
2. Main stram school : 50% by lucky draw; 50% by marking scheme.
3. International school - accpet based on creteria is also different from school to school. in general speaking, no foreign passport, no chance
We are mature people and can choose wharever we like.

A lot of kids get to famous school in the second round (lucky draw) and the parent is happy an dconsider the system is fair. Have you think of the organization of the school ? How can they handle kids from all mix.. We have to be more mature and play according to the rules.

Vesley- this web site is to share the feeling or happiness or upset. The aim is to help each other.. I am very upset with your way of posting. If I am the principle of those famosy school, I prefer to accept kids who lived in a healthy family and the parant is "mature" or "resoanable" enough  to handle unhappy matters. Not just complaint.. complaint and complaint..
if your school is still available, do you want to send your sons and daughters to this school ?
In the  70-80 century, all the parants need to wait for a long queue to get applications form and all the kids need to take Is this fair ?
Nowaday, life is easier, you have so many choice   for DSS , international school ..

fishmum

Vesley

過咗一日希望你心情好翻Ｄ啦！係BK人人都有發言嘅自由, 有Ｄ你仲意聽, 有Ｄ你唔仲意聽。 總之你唔好唔開心, 努力呀！

我同我好朋友兩年前都玩過呢個遊戲, 一齊幫亞女報同一間小學, 我亞女round 1入咗, 我朋友羨慕到不得了！結果佢亞女係大抽獎都入咗同一間, 好多人羨慕返佢！ 其實每個媽咪都關心自己小朋友, 報定Ｄ私校, 大抽獎可能入到你仲意嘅學校架!

Good luck!

原文章由 vesley 於 07-11-26 23:33 硐表
so ,without 人脈"這東西 we have to wait for the last cookie from the gov't.I will keep on my Mark 6.
TO BE HONEST, I AM JUST A BIT UPSET FOR HIS SCHOOL BUS FRIENDS AND PARENTS COMPARING MY KIDS .

For ...

[ 本文章最後由 fishmum 於 07-11-27 08:46 編輯 ]

fishmum

Smartcar

我又覺得個遊戲都有佢嘅公平之處:

2.我沒有教師父母 - 試唸吓如果你係教師又或者係學校工作, 你都會希望你嘅小朋友响你學校讀書, 方便照顧吖嘛！

3.我沒有哥姊 - 咁即係大仔, 多五分。

4.我不是大仔 - 咁即係有哥哥姐姐, 入佢哋讀過嘅學校有分加, 如果係哥哥姐姐讀緊果間小學, 一定要收係咪!

6.我沒有入教 - 如果無入教, 咁揀無教會背景嘅小學, 咁咪唔會計宗教分囉。

以上係我個人見解。 希望你唔好灰心！我唸你嘅小朋友都希望見到你開心D架, 努力呀

原文章由 smartcar 於 07-11-27 00:14 硐表
係人都知十分即係零分，呢個遊戲一D都不公平，至少我覺有奇視成分：
1.我不是校董
2.我沒有教師父母
3.我沒有哥姊
4.我不是大仔
5.我不是住市
6.我沒有入教

擺明奇視，係人都知；呢個教育制度失敗之餘亦教人一出世個就虛偽，香 ...

991129

原文章由 rohoy2k 於 07-11-26 19:10 硐表
呢個係一個分餅仔遊戲,無分"勝負"嘅!
就算有,都係完全係父母心中嘅啫, 唔關小朋友嘅事.
邊個唔想出生係"李實發"屋企?想入邊度都得啦!
面對現實,係所得最好嘅選擇入面安排小朋友嘅教育仲緊要. ...

Agree, just depends on your lucky and no any relationship of the talent of kids....
Don't give up, remember that "沒有必讀之學校", 塞翁失馬, 焉之非福....

Charlotte_mom

呵, 原來2年前我都有出過聲
而家係旁觀, 兩年前我係當事人, 當年我都嬲架, 尢其是知道有人駛橫手, 點會唔嬲?.............都係果句, 算把啦, 呢個世界邊有公平架, 政府唔為自己plan, 咪自己為自己plan lor!
好似有家長話, 有錢讀私校, 點解要同d窮人爭官津校, 對d低收入人士黎講, 連揀直資/私校既選擇權都無, 咁又點睇?
係有實力既, 靠自己! 我都識人2年班插入協恩架! 總之, relax!!

原文章由 Helen'sMum 於 07-11-27 12:30 AM 硐表
看到大家的討論令我想起以下"2年前"的相關連結 .......
其實"公平"這問題是不斷困擾每個參予者 ........

不公平遊戲
http://forum.baby-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=464156&extra=page%3D1&page=2 ...

[ 本文章最後由 Charlotte_mom 於 07-11-27 12:36 編輯 ]

SandyWu

原文章由 Charlotte_mom 於 07-11-27 12:35 硐表
呵, 原來2年前我都有出過聲
而家係旁觀, 兩年前我係當事人, 當年我都嬲架, 尢其是知道有人駛橫手, 點會唔嬲?.............都係果句, 算把啦, 呢個世界邊有公平架, 政府唔為自己plan, 咪自己為自己plan lor!
好似有家 ...

我好認同架,所以我同囡囡報左成共9間dss/私校做back up,就係因為我地得5分,一定係first round無行,尋日果然係落選,而lucky draw又要依靠運氣,所以自己做媽咪既,咪自己plan,而家我都90%會同阿囡讀私校,因為間學校係自己心頭好之餘,自己又無咩抽獎命,所以唔想俾人決定自己個囡既命運

jsammi123

不如全港小一入學會考啦
不如全港小一入學IQtest 來排隊啦

andrewpapa

Agree with fishmum

其實個Lucky draw裏無分名校不名枚, 係計你同學校有幾多連繫.  同你是否第一次參加抽price.  若果不計這些, 那用甚麼來計先後.  難道真的random draw所有學校? 到時2萬幾人抽St paul co-ed? 2萬幾人抽 DBS and DGS?? 大家又會叫政府增加名校學位, 反對冇份讀名校

實情只不過我地大衆想子女讀名校, 所以我地會從自己出發去看, 如果自已處於弱勢, 當然喊不公平, 但換轉係在優勢, 你會點? 還說不公平?

假若家長曾在母校出過力(例如任教, 畢業), 希望自已的子女有份分享, 難道不公平? 如果你跟巴士公司家屬說沒有乘車優惠, 可行嗎? 我地可以眼紅嗎? 如果你對名校不離不棄, 請在P2時再接再厲, 到時入咗仲開心

寄語下年參賽者,及提早準備.  

以上係我個人見解。 希望你唔好灰心

ETL

yes, agree. In these game, the problem is not Goverment , also not the children. The problem is come from the Father and Mother. Because, why their Grandfather/mother have not give them go to that band 1 school when they are child ? Why they didn't go to that band 1 school working ?

As one of my friend. She have a good job and good salary (over 30K per month). But she have quite the job and go to work a cleck on that band 1 school. Because she want her kids can study that school. Does someone can do that ? Sorry I can not do that. So I will accept these game and result. That is lucky draw game. Like the "Mark Six" Everyone also want a winner.

原文章由 andrewpapa 於 07-11-27 13:55 硐表
Agree with fishmum

其實個Lucky draw裏無分名校不名枚, 係計你同學校有幾多連繫.  同你是否第一次參加抽price.  若果不計這些, 那用甚麼來計先後.  難道真的random draw所有學校? 到時2萬幾人抽St paul co-ed? 2萬 ...

柳中原

可謂公平？
-　ｆｉｒｓｔ around 係睇同學校既關係.
- second around 大抽獎就睇運.
免費十二年教育係所有小朋友最終一定有書讀.
有錢,有關係既咪入名校,直資,私校law!
呢個世界根本就無公平既!!!