How to become a grasshopper scout?

Lelu

Any conditions:
Age?
Academic result?
Skill e.g. swimming
Conduct level?

Who is responsible for selection and when the selection takes place?

What are the activities of a grasshopper scout?

pmamylee

要參加校內的grasshopper scout,必須要考全級50名內,體能亦是考慮之列,是由老師挑選的,會在小二時挑選,當是校內的一種課外活動.

原文章由 Lelu 於 07-11-22 15:51 硐表
Any conditions:
Age?
Academic result?
Skill e.g. swimming
Conduct level?

Who is responsible for selection and when the selection takes place?

What are the activities of a grasshopper scout?

louismamama

有同学仔既媽咪話我知，考到全級頭50名係minimum
requirement，但都未必會被揀中，學校亦吾會按名次去選人，好似今年咁，有D小朋友考到全級10名內連interview機會都無, 返而考近50名既小朋友就有interview機會，宜家仲做埋
grasshopper scout.

在P.2開學約9月中，副校長會叫一D同学小息見佢，副校長會同佢地傾計，教佢地挷繩結，其實呢個巳經係interview，被揀中既，班主任會派通告通知已被取錄，落選既，係吾會通知。

我只係知咁多:)

原文章由 Lelu 於 07-11-22 15:51 硐表
Any conditions:
Age?
Academic result?
Skill e.g. swimming
Conduct level?

Who is responsible for selection and when the selection takes place?

What are the activities of a grasshopper scout?

lihoho

請問selection test 是考什麼?  如被選中, 一星期要上多少日活動?  通常在什麼時間及地點上課?

原帖由 pmamylee 於 07-11-22 16:32 發表
要參加校內的grasshopper scout,必須要考全級50名內,體能亦是考慮之列,是由老師挑選的,會在小二時挑選,當是校內的一種課外活動.

mamiduckie

想知grasshopper scout有什麼特色?
點解要top 50 先可以apply?

Aardvark

原帖由 mamiduckie 於 08-9-4 15:15 發表
想知grasshopper scout有什麼特色?
點解要top 50 先可以apply?

It's just another scout, excpet it carries the name of St. Joseph's ...

Top 50 was because they were looking for elite.  That's y.  BTW, some "extra circular activities" applies the same rule, i.e. you need a good academic results as a token to have the possibility to enroll it.  I know activities and academic are two seperate issues.  But that's the rule of this school, so ...

[ 本帖最後由 Aardvark 於 08-9-5 15:20 編輯 ]

youngmami

原帖由 Aardvark 於 08-9-5 15:17 發表


It's just another scout, excpet it carries the name of St. Joseph's ...

Top 50 was because they were looking for elite.  That's y.  BTW, some "extra circular activities" applies the same rule, i.e. ...

Totally agree to what you said.
這真是個「窮者愈窮、富者愈富」既世界！令人沮喪！

Derdad

試吓從另一角度看，會唔會好啲？
1.學校唔想成績好嘅學生只顧讀書，想擴闊佢哋嘅眼界
2.參加童軍後，成績一般都會下降。成績好的同學一般抗跌力較高
3.學校辦的童軍經費由學校津貼，但財政所限，只能收有限的名額，準則定高些，在所難免。

原帖由 Aardvark 於 08-9-5 15:17 發表


It's just another scout, excpet it carries the name of St. Joseph's ...

Top 50 was because they were looking for elite.  That's y.  BTW, some "extra circular activities" applies the same rule, i.e. ...

pmamylee

同意derdad所說,我們可從另一角度看看.
St.jo學生多,而grasshopper scout人數有限,如果任由學生自由選擇,根本不可行.
St.jo雖然是一所exam-oriented的學校,但亦很注重學生的discipline.唔係一定成績好就得.
所以唔好講得咁灰「窮者愈窮、富者愈富」.
小兒今年小四,很幸運,他的成績一向不錯,由小一至小三都能保持在全級15名內,過去3年亦可取得紀律奬,但小兒並沒有被選中作糾察或班長,亦不是幼童軍.校內很多活動如choir,朗誦比賽都不曾被選中.
但眼見大部份同學都對學校擁有強烈的歸屬感,深感學校對每位學生都是公平的,運動好的同學,學校都給予很多機會,佢地好多都是成績唔特出的同學.小兒結識的同學中亦有些問題學生,能在校內的班際朗誦比賽及運動會中奪奬.
遺憾點說,st.jo實在是太多學生,一級成三百幾人,所以一些家長嚮往的課外活動,往往要經過一些特別的門檻.
昨天9月7日是選取grasshopper scout的日子,學校之前會給予全級50名內的小朋友通告,但不是每個小朋友都會去參加甄選,據小兒說只有38名同學出席,而在小二開始做幼童軍的亦要重新再作挑選,所以就算小二不被選中,只要小三努力仍可取得入塲劵.
其實唔係個個小朋友都喜歡做童軍及糾察,小兒的同學中,有些是會拒絕的.
根據小兒的口述,grasshopper scout的甄選分三部分,同學們會在大潭童軍營做一些體能測試,如攀石,繩網,平行木等等,跟着看看小朋友是否懂得打蝴蝶結及平結,最後是見考官,問題每人唔同.一個星期內會用電話通知成功取錄者,收唔到電話就代表不被取錄.

原帖由 Derdad 於 08-9-5 04:51 PM 發表
試吓從另一角度看，會唔會好啲？
1.學校唔想成績好嘅學生只顧讀書，想擴闊佢哋嘅眼界
2.參加童軍後，成績一般都會下降。成績好的同學一般抗跌力較高
3.學校辦的童軍經費由學校津貼，但財政所限，只能收有限的名額，準則定高些，在所 ...

youngmami

原帖由 pmamylee 於 08-9-8 13:50 發表
同意derdad所說,我們可從另一角度看看.
St.jo學生多,而grasshopper scout人數有限,如果任由學生自由選擇,根本不可行.
St.jo雖然是一所exam-oriented的學校,但亦很注重學生的discipline.唔係一定成績好就得.
所以唔好 ...

Tks for your sharing!
其實無咩「灰」唔「灰」既。有感而發遮。呻下都得瓜。
講真自己都讀過小學，小朋友階段hard feeling唔會太多，大人hard feeling多D。成績普通，又無被選中做任何「公職」，又無響任何比賽得獎既人數肯定多過10項全能嗰D啦！小朋友好叻既，亻巨地實揾到D野係叻過其他人架，哈哈。Anyway, tks for your information.

By the way, pmamylee, 你嗰仔年年考15名之內真係好勁啊！有咩心得可以分享下？

Derdad

依家讀書嘅係小朋友，既然小朋友都冇 hard feeling,
咁應該冇嘢好呻吖。

呢個世界，幾時都係做平凡人開心啲啦！

原帖由 youngmami 於 08-9-8 14:24 發表


Tks for your sharing!
其實無咩「灰」唔「灰」既。有感而發遮。呻下都得瓜。
講真自己都讀過小學，小朋友階段hard feeling唔會太多，大人hard feeling多D。成績普通，又無被選中做任何「公職」，又無響任何比賽得獎既人數 ...

youngmami

原帖由 Derdad 於 08-9-8 14:39 發表
依家讀書嘅係小朋友，既然小朋友都冇 hard feeling,
咁應該冇嘢好呻吖。

呢個世界，幾時都係做平凡人開心啲啦！

咁應該冇嘢好呻吖 <<- No ah... 大把嘢呻呀！呻到樹葉都落埋呀！須知道無論小朋友成就如何，做父母既都在背後默默耕耘，當付出和收成不成正比就自然有野呻啦！養兒100歲，長憂99呀嘛。所以借呢到呻下，交換下意見咁囉。

cycling

唔知呢喥有無d 有小童軍經驗的家長來分享吓呢？
因為我們呢班盲頭烏蠅係咁〝蹤〞, 都達唔到被選要求。

Aardvark

It's really frustrating these days.  

To start with, I'm a St Joe old boys and we used to not have such selection process (of course, that's good old days).  

You all remembered that when they were at P1, the school arranged a so call "extra-circular activities days" some time in May, spend four weekends after school.  Ring the bell?

Well, it suXks.  Teachers were so lazy that they didn't prepare a daXn thing and merely asked our kid to watch the TV and then answer some supid question.  What kind of extra circular activities is it?  Watching TV?  What's going wrong?  If teachers were too busy to prepare it, they shouldn't arrange it in the first place?

I am fully aware that they have 300+ students for each form and of course they will have a headache to pick the right students.  Still, they have to face it for each an every extra ciruclar activities!  If not, how are they going to pick the right candidates for soccer team, swimming team, table tennis, ...  Or should academic result be one of the selection criteria?  What, this time?  Top 100 or Top 200?  Would it be better off for Top 400?  DaXn.  

Derdad

學校申請唔到啫，可以自行向童軍總會申請o架!!

填好表格，寫出指定地域，交回總會後，總會就 fax 去附近地區，適當時候就會有電話問你仔仔有冇興趣或是否已被取錄o架啦！

原帖由 cycling 於 08-9-8 17:00 發表
唔知呢喥有無d 有小童軍經驗的家長來分享吓呢？
因為我們呢班盲頭烏蠅係咁〝蹤〞, 都達唔到被選要求。

Derdad

應該唔會堂堂都睇電視喎，幾堂就係真嘅。

其實冇乜所謂吖，反正一大班朋友仔坐埋一齊嘻嘻哈哈、輕輕鬆鬆咁度過一兩個鐘，都達到課外活動鬆弛、緩和緊張嘅學習情緒嘅目的喎！課外活動唔一定要有嘢學喎，係咪？

只要小朋友冇特別負面嘅投訴或不良嘅事後行為，家長其實要嬲啲咩嘢呢？

希望我們家長明白，不要經常儲藏過量的負面信息在腦袋內。這樣無助於解決問題，反而會在潛意識層面上影響我們有負面的行為，更容易讓小朋友感染到而影響他建立積極、正面的人生觀。

原帖由 Aardvark 於 08-9-8 17:41 發表
It's really frustrating these days.  

To start with, I'm a St Joe old boys and we used to not have such selection process (of course, that's good old days).  

You all remembered that when  ...

Aardvark

原帖由 Derdad 於 08-9-9 14:32 發表
只要小朋友冇特別負面嘅投訴或不良嘅事後行為，家長其實要嬲啲咩嘢呢？

In fact, my kid told me that he found it boring and wasting his time.  What's the school up to anyway?  Or they think that we were too poor to afford a TV?

youngmami

原帖由 Aardvark 於 08-9-8 17:41 發表
It's really frustrating these days.  

To start with, I'm a St Joe old boys and we used to not have such selection process (of course, that's good old days).  

You all remembered that when  ...

Only watching TV?  I don't know ah.  But I remembered my son told me last term that he had played chess and played 'memory card' games during ECA time.  One day he was late coming to the playground and his class teacher helped me to find him and finally he come very late and told us that the teacher asked him to help to return some chess games to the office after ECA time.  
So I believe at least for my son's ECA time last term, they had done sth. apart from watching TV.

You're an old boy so I think you have 1st hand experience about the differences of good old days and nowadays of the school.
I shared your feeling!!

Derdad

Perhaps you could ask the School Management during the coming Parents' Day.

原帖由 Aardvark 於 08-9-9 16:19 發表


In fact, my kid told me that he found it boring and wasting his time.  What's the school up to anyway?  Or they think that we were too poor to afford a TV?