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mingdo

IB課程喺未好重要？如果IB真喺咁重要，咁啲學生升大學全部都有考IB呀？咁第日新高中試又代表什麼？如果學校話唔辦IB，唔代表呢間學校唔好又或令人失望．選學校都從多方面睇，點都唔會睇一面掛！

[ 本文章最後由 mingdo 於 07-7-18 12:52 編輯 ]

nintendo

原文章由 mingdo 於 07-7-18 12:44 發表
IB課程未好重要？如果IB真咁重要，咁學生升大學全部都有考IB呀？咁第日新高中試又代表什麼？如果學校話唔辦IB，唔代表呢間學校唔好又或令人失望．選學校都從多方面睇，點都唔會睇一面掛！

而家唔關 IB 課程有幾重要的事。
有網友都話，講明係買橙，但係就比蘋果，咁都唔係貨不對辦？

[ 本文章最後由 nintendo 於 07-7-18 14:15 編輯 ]

Judgement

[quote]原文章由 mingdo 於 07-7-18 12:44 發表
IB課程

owenmami

唔辦IB的local school, 有很多都很好, 如協恩、聖心、la salle.....
但如果間學校既理念係唔操學生做考試機器，但到最後又要同其他的local school已操得很fit的學生一齊應考新高中公開試，咁樣爭入大學就係「讓賽」

原文章由 mingdo 於 07-7-18 12:44 發表
IB課程未好重要？如果IB真咁重要，咁學生升大學全部都有考IB呀？咁第日新高中試又代表什麼？如果學校話唔辦IB，唔代表呢間學校唔好又或令人失望．選學校都從多方面睇，點都唔會睇一面掛！

[ 本文章最後由 owenmami 於 07-7-18 14:47 編輯 ]

nintendo

原文章由 HuiTung 於 07-7-18 12:20 發表
Anyone can tell which is a "true" IB school by its school fee.  

睇學費，唔會知係唔係 IB 學校，學費高低只可以作參考。
而家有 IB 的，都係國際學校；而 IBD 的學費由 8 萬至 13 萬一年，未計 debenture/ capital levy。
DSS 中，以 SPCC 的地位和背景，要開埋 IB 課程唔難，但佢地都覺得佢地而家的學費水平 (好似約 $50000 一年)，要加開 IB 課程，就有加學費壓力，咁大家都可以估下計， IB 學校學費會係 5 萬以上。

其實全部正式 approved 的學校，都列在官方網頁名單內。
http://www.ibo.org/

如果一日未申請成功，都可能有變。
有朋友舊年想申請 renaissance，我都叫佢睇定 d 先，等學校正式有 approval 先算；當然，照計英基 ( renaissance 係英基學校) 應該唔會厄人，不過，都唔爭在等多一年，好過好似而家個有 D 學校，變成兩頭唔到岸。

其實睇番 renaissance 同 victoria 的情形，的確係可以好快搞掂，如果某學校遲遲未正式有 approval，原因係乜，家長要自己打聽下。

HuiTung

原文章由 stjoboldboy 於 07-7-18 12:53 發表


So, how about (CKx), their school fee is not cheap, but looks like their IBD application is still "in progress". Do you think they can make it?

啟x $62,500 per annum, 佢地人強馬壯也今年五月先拿倒IBO authorisation.  CKx 搵個以前攪IB的IS校長統籌IB課程, 決心應是有的, 只是天時地利人和的問題罷.

agnesllth

It is not possible to tell whether a school can be an IB authorised school by looking at the fees. The best way to check it out at the official website. Some very expensive international schools have no intention of switching completely to IB in one step. On the other hand, I simply do not think a school charging a mere 2k per month could in any way manage to be an IB school.

And I am not saying IB is better either. Nothing can be good for everyone. In fact, to be honest, IB is not suitable for most Hong Kong students who are used to spoon-fed education. IB is extremely demanding and requires very high language skills and students have to be real thinkers and not exam machines. It might sound a little too harsh but, honestly, yes, IB would only be suitable for very competent students. In fact, it might even be good news to most students if a local school is not switching to IB at all. I just have to say that most local school students would not be able to perform well using IB. They would probably perform better if they are following the local syllabus.

[ 本文章最後由 agnesllth 於 07-7-18 15:30 編輯 ]

agnesllth

Copied from the official website


Australian International School: DP
Canadian International School: DP
Chinese International School: MYP, DP
French International School: DP
Hong Kong Academy Primary School: PYP
Island School: DP
Japanese International School: PYP
Kiangsu-Chekiang College, International Section: DP
King George V School: DP
Kingston International School: PYP
Li Po Chun United World College of Hong Kong: DP
Renaissance College: DP
Sha Tin College: DP
South Island School: DP
Victoria Belcher Kindergarten: PYP
Victoria Shanghai Academy: PYP, MYP, DP
West Island School: DP
Yew Chung International School - Hong Kong: DP

[ 本文章最後由 agnesllth 於 07-7-18 15:54 編輯 ]

mingdo

原文章由 owenmami 於 07-7-18 14:32 發表
唔辦IB的local school, 有很多都很好, 如協恩、聖心、la salle.....
但如果間學校既理念係唔操學生做考試機器，但到最後又要同其他的local school已操得很fit的學生一齊應考新高中公開試，咁樣爭入大學就係「讓 ...

或者新高中公開試未必適合日日比老師操做考試機器的學生呢！

HuiTung

原文章由 agnesllth 於 07-7-18 15:19 發表
It is not possible to tell whether a school can be an IB authorised school by looking at the fees. The best way to check it out at the official website. Some very expensive international schools  ...

So please tell me if there's any IB school that charges below $3000 per month.  Gosh!  Don't you think IB is a free lunch?!  How could people say IB is very expensive on one hand, but ask people not to judge by its cost on the other hand???????

Moreover, I'm very sorry to hear that HK students are born to be spoon-fed.  The problem arises from the HK education system itself, not the children themselves.

[ 本文章最後由 HuiTung 於 07-7-18 16:20 編輯 ]

agnesllth

原文章由 HuiTung 於 07-7-18 16:13 發表
So please tell me if there's any IB school that charges below $3000 per month.  Gosh!  Don't you think IB is a free lunch?!  How could people say IB is very expensive on one hand, but ask people not to judge by its cost on the other hand???????

Do you understand English at all?



IB schools are expensive schools.
But expensive schools are not necessary IB schools.
This is Math 101 or Logic 101.

Anyway, to answer your question ...... No, in Hong Kong there is no IB schools that charge under $3k/month.

[ 本文章最後由 agnesllth 於 07-7-18 16:23 編輯 ]

HuiTung

原文章由 agnesllth 於 07-7-18 16:18 發表


Do you understand English at all?

So can you write in Chinese then?

HuiTung

原文章由 agnesllth 於 07-7-18 16:18 發表




Do you understand English at all?



IB schools are expensive schools.
But expensive schools are not necessary IB schools.
This is Logic 101.

Anyway, to answer you ...

Of course I know.  Expensive schools have their own reasons to be expensive. :tongue:

agnesllth

原文章由 HuiTung 於 07-7-18 16:23 發表


Of course I know.  Expensive schools have their own reasons to be expensive. :tongue:

Then, what was your queries just now?

:tongue: :tongue:

ChristyBBmama

兩年前, DGS 出過信話學生要band 1 or band 2 先收, 好似冇話一定收晒喎, 不過最近有冇改就唔知喇


[quote]原文章由 mattsmum 於 07-7-11 08:23 發表
只是DBS, DGS, Spco-ed st paul conv. 有公佈是直升的,

其余沒有如此宣佈過.

怪不得家長讀落才知,才不滿.

"

[ 本文章最後由 ChristyBBmama 於 07-7-18 16:37 編輯 ]

agnesllth

I hate to see that there are schools that falsely provide information to parents in order to get students. The schools knew that IB is expensive and they insisted on charging a mere 2k. With such school fees you just cannot in any way be an IB school. Yet, they still marketed themselves as IB schools.
Why didn't they simply follow the cheaper local syllabus from the beginning? I know many people, like me, would prefer IB and an IB school would definitely sell better. But it is really sad to see that parents were given false information/hope.
Parents should be smarter next timel. There is no "big toads" out there. Getting into an IB school with low fees? Not possible.

pumbaa

***it is really sad to see that parents were given false information/hope.*** AGREE

Pelican

Regarding the new rules set by EMB (ie DSSs cannot switch to IB school completely), has other DSSs told parents yet? It appears to me that some DSSs are still telling parents their IB applications are "in progress".

Honestly, even if those new rules are really to come into force, I would not be too surprised. Has anyone heard about it that there have been complaints from government subsidised schools about the new DSSs?

Last year one DSS in Shatin area had to actually limit the intake of students living in Shatin to 15%. Why? Because the EMB asked the school to do so. And why? Because a lot of government subsidised schools in Shatin did not have enough students.

Now why DSSs are not to allowed to switch to IB school? You guys guess. Once these DSSs are to switched back to local syllabus, a lot of parents might as well consider switching back to free government subsidised schools. See the point?

There are just too many new DSSs around and at the same time, many government subsidised school have been forced to close.

[ 本文章最後由 Pelican 於 07-7-19 20:57 編輯 ]