Dse 6科全5 入到中港大法律系？

FNN

mcl233 發表於 24-6-19 19:00
如果入HKU LLB  LQ係30，咁英文要有星星先適合讀，就變成30-7＝23係其他5科，既係5x3+4x2=23 ，到時又會走 ...

在波士頓,法律教育的淨學費每年超過60萬港元。而在倫敦,每年的LLB(法學學士)淨學費至少30萬港元,加上其他生活費用,總花費可能高達100萬。這對大多數家庭來說,都是一個沉重的負擔。相比之下,香港大學(HKU)或城市大學(CityU)這類本地院校無疑是更好的選擇。

對於一些優秀的學生來說,過於關注考試成績的意義並不大。重要的是能夠真正掌握所學知識,而不是勉強去讀父母要求的科目。

我認識一些年輕人,他們的父母明確表示,只有獲得奬學金才能出國深造,因為家庭經濟負擔能力有限。這些學生如果能夠考取4個5**或以上的成績,不僅可以獲得政府的獎學金,還能獲得生活費資助,總額可達50萬港元。作為回報,他們需要回香港服務一段時間。

這些年輕人為什麼要選擇到海外深造,而不是留在香港念書呢?他們的答案很簡單 - 在香港和在海外讀書,他們會有不同的經歷和機遇。

Baggio10

FNN 發表於 24-6-19 19:50
本帖最後由 FNN 於 24-6-19 20:31 編輯

在波士頓,法律教育的淨學費每年超過60萬港元。而在倫敦,每年的L ...

認同你的觀點，也許分享一下女兒的經驗。

當年她正正是DSE均5報考港大LLB, 低LQ2分，客觀上中A1機會很低，連中學老師也建議改JUPAS選項，當時我問她是否真的喜歡讀法律，如果是的話就去馬不要改了，結果幸運地摱車邊收到offer。

回想讀Year 1那一年真係好大壓力，畢竟論公開試成績，莫講話和Double Degree的同學比，就算在LLB中也一定是最低層的一羣，加上面對陌生課程，艱深的法律條文，超複雜的案例，没有親朋有法律背景加持，有時真的讀到懷疑人生。

作為父母只能說一些無關痛癢的安慰說話，比較實在的，大家都要降底期望，儘量減少學業上的壓力，不要只看重考試成績。我們對她的要求只是要認真上足每一堂，努力做好備課。

mcl233

FNN 發表於 24-6-19 19:50
本帖最後由 FNN 於 24-6-19 20:31 編輯

在波士頓,法律教育的淨學費每年超過60萬港元。而在倫敦,每年的L ...

嘩，放洋英國其他使費一年要成70萬，消費太高了，我～～～     

twobirds

mcl233 發表於 24-6-20 13:17
嘩，放洋英國其他使費一年要成70萬，消費太高了，我～～～     
...

有政府全資助on top 再加30萬應該可以cover 全部洗費吧

FNN

前提係攞四個5**或以上, 全香港只有0.4%考生有資格攞，即大概144人。

FNN

twobirds 發表於 24-6-20 16:58
有政府全資助on top 再加30萬應該可以cover 全部洗費吧

去美國吾夠

bettyay

FNN 發表於 24-6-20 17:51
前提係攞四個5**或以上, 全香港只有0.4%考生有資格攞，即大概144人。

你應該係指HKSES吧！如是，請問在哪寫攞四個5**或以上為資格？
HKSES 每年只有100人或以下的香港優秀學生獲得奬學金，不限於DSE學生。每年獲獎學生來自IB/DSE/A level，所佔比例亦相若。

優秀成績只係門檻，仲有得到校長推薦，入選及面試成功！個人覺得好不容易呢！所以能夠取得奬學金的學生是一個肯定，真的值得向外闖闖嘅

ElaiUKStudy

poonseelai 發表於 24-6-19 18:39
本帖最後由 poonseelai 於 24-6-19 18:40 編輯

請問HKU law GPA 2.8 (out of 4?) 難取嗎？ 是2：1?

HKU係out of 4.3.  You can look at HKU grading system to understand their scoring requirement.  4.3=A+ which is 90-100 score; B+ already requires 76-79; B- (GPA2.7) is 70-72.

https://dm.law.hku.hk/helpie_faq/grades-and-honours-classifications/

However, I am not too sure how to do a comparison with U.K. university.

https://info.lse.ac.uk/staff/divisions/academic-registrars-division/Teaching-Quality-Assurance-and-Review-Office/Assets/Documents/Calendar/BA-BSc-Three-Year-scheme-for-students-from-2018.19.pdf

First class honour is 70-100.

The guideline says GPA3.3 of HKU is considered as high Second Upper honour in UK.

Again, it is LLAW subjects GPA which is different from the honour awarded to you.  I just attained some subjects about copyright & IP law in my Master Degree.  I would say, not only does it require good language skill as there are many readings but also a very good understanding of the background about the context and content for setting the law.  You cannot apply the same “logic” in all cases but to apply the right  court cases to make your sound argument. Some domain knowledge may also needed.

ElaiUKStudy

FNN 發表於 24-6-19 19:02
本帖最後由 FNN 於 24-6-19 19:14 編輯

2.8對讀書人來講好難攞，科科差吾多要B- (2.7)。我同個年青人， ...

加油，你年青人一定可以做到的。

ElaiUKStudy

Baggio10 發表於 24-6-20 12:40
認同你的觀點，也許分享一下女兒的經驗。

當年她正正是DSE均5報考港大LLB, 低LQ2分，客觀上中A1機會很低 ...

其實讀書係為自己，千祈唔好同人比較或只跟其他人（包括父母意見）走。

大學生崖係人生之中最好玩，最開心的時候（因為自由度大過中學，冇錢的又可以補習攞錢啦），唔好比壓力壓死自己。

ElaiUKStudy

FNN 發表於 24-6-19 19:50
本帖最後由 FNN 於 24-6-19 20:31 編輯

在波士頓,法律教育的淨學費每年超過60萬港元。而在倫敦,每年的L ...

你應該計少了四年bachelor degree的錢，在美國，law school只有JD, 要讀完四年Bachelor degree再報.  這個JD又要再讀三年，如果要係美國名大學讀七年，真係唔係普通人家可以負擔得起。

poonseelai

ElaiUKStudy 發表於 24-6-20 19:20
HKU係out of 4.3.  You can look at HKU grading system to understand their scoring requirement.  4.3= ...

thank you, 我只知一般UK大學 1st hon 比例高過香港嘅大學

FNN

bettyay 發表於 24-6-20 18:40
你應該係指HKSES吧！如是，請問在哪寫攞四個5**或以上為資格？
HKSES 每年只有100人或以下的香港優秀學生獲 ...

沒有明文寫出來，但我認識攞果十個八個，佢地最少有4個5**。

ElaiUKStudy

poonseelai 發表於 24-6-20 21:08
thank you, 我只知一般UK大學 1st hon 比例高過香港嘅大學

HKU still strictly follows the guideline of around 10% first honour, not more than 55% second honour upper for Law School.  But in U.K., even UCL, LSE, some courses have more than 90% 2nd Upper, 30-40% first honour.  Don’t know if it is due to pandemic only.

https://dm.law.hku.hk/helpie_faq/grades-and-honours-classifications/

FNN

ElaiUKStudy 發表於 24-6-20 20:54
你應該計少了四年bachelor degree的錢，在美國，law school只有JD, 要讀完四年Bachelor degree再報.  這個 ...

多謝你的分享！

我只寫每年學費大約多少，對我來說係天文數字。

但有D tricks 可以慳D，UCL+Columbia 2+2 / LSE+Columbia 2+2 可慳返很多。這些是Dual degree。


https://www.ucl.ac.uk/laws/study/undergraduate/dual-llbjuris-doctor-jd-columbia-university-new-york

https://www.lse.ac.uk/law/study/double-degree

但香港D醒目仔女好少會揀。

FNN

ElaiUKStudy 發表於 24-6-20 21:49
HKU still strictly follows the guideline of around 10% first honour, not more than 55% second honou ...

The grading system in the United Kingdom differs from the grade point average (GPA) system used in Hong Kong.

In the UK, universities employ a 100-point grading scale. Students who obtain a score of 70 or above in a subject is awarded a first-class honors classification. If students achieve 60 or above in a subject, their subject grades are classified as a 2A.

At University College London (UCL), if a student obtains first-class honors in half of their subjects, their final degree classification will be a first-class honors. Similarly, if a student achieves a 2A in half of their subjects, their final degree classification will be a 2A.

At the London School of Economics (LSE), if a student earns first-class honors in 4 subjects, their final degree classification will be a first-class honors. Likewise, if a student achieves a 2A in 4 subjects, their final degree classification will be a 2A.

It is worth noting that most students at UCL and LSE are high-achieving, with at least A*AA in A-levels or a minimum score of 4x in the International Baccalaureate. Given their academic profiles, these students can easily attain grades of 60 or above in at least 4 subjects, which would result in a final degree classification of 2A or higher for the majority of them.

bettyay

FNN 發表於 24-6-20 21:23
沒有明文寫出來，但我認識攞果十個八個，佢地最少有4個5**。

明白！原來係個人觀察，我以為係官方網頁有寫定係某些學校规定有咁嘅PG才獲考慮推薦。


另外想提提！30萬是奬學金，另外20萬的生活資助係要入息審查合資格才能獲取的。所以有4個5**也不一定能夠收曬50萬。

ElaiUKStudy

FNN 發表於 24-6-20 22:17
The grading system in the United Kingdom differs from the grade point average (GPA) system used in  ...

Thank you so much for your detail explanation.  

FNN

In Hong Kong, there is no restriction of a 10% cap on first-class honors in my understanding. Instead, students who achieve a GPA of 3.7 or above will be awarded first-class honors.

The key trick to earning first-class honors is to obtain a combination of high grades. This can be achieved by earning three A- grades across three subjects, or by earning one A, one A-, and one B+ across three subjects. This is only a pattern to tackle first class honours but students have to complete consistently 9 or 12 law subjects (can’t remember) in the same pattern.

It is important to note that students cannot have a single failing or unsatisfactory grade in any subject in order to qualify for first-class honors. As such, obtaining first class honors in the universities in Hong Kong is practically difficult.

FNN

bettyay 發表於 24-6-20 22:18
明白！原來係個人觀察，我以為係官方網頁有寫定係某些學校规定有咁嘅PG才獲考慮推薦。

正確！要符合入息審查才可以攞到200,000生活津貼。