小一面試分享：無奬、無証書、無交個人檔案的結果

traeh

原帖由 edea 於 11-10-7 10:13 發表


打理組班專區時記得見到有些帖子, 是組意大利文班, 德文班等, 組班對象是幼稚園生.

其實我比較相信是裝作組班招攬幼兒, 亦同時想, 是否有此需要? 回覆的家長是真的想孩子學會此兩種外語? 還是純粹為孩子的portfo ...

有時候，父母未必想盲從附和，他們也有方向，就是想給小朋友最好的。可是，怎樣才是最好？但幾歲人仔，有時連父母也未必摸得透甚麼才對他們最好，於是，人家說好的，就給他們試試，希望最終摸出一條路。

像Ian說，讓子女選擇他們所喜愛的活動，而非由父母安排。若小朋友甚麼都有興趣，又怎麼辦呢？都讓他們去試一試吧，但這又變成沒有方向，小朋友也變成周身刀卻無張利。

究竟要不要及早為他們認清目標，磨利一、兩張刀？還是讓他們一直依喜好自由發展？

iantsang

原帖由 traeh 於 11-10-7 12:54 發表


有時候，父母未必想盲從附和，他們也有方向，就是想給小朋友最好的。可是，怎樣才是最好？但幾歲人仔，有時連父母也未必摸得透甚麼才對他們最好，於是，人家說好的，就給他們試試，希望最終摸出一條路。

像Ian說，讓子女選擇他們所喜愛 ...

Hi traeh,

I think this is an interesting topic.  Let me try to stay with the topic of this thread, to provide some of my views.

Sorry it really has been a lot of things that go on with us everyday so I won't be able to share all the bits and pieces.  When I said I will let the child choose, do you notice I also mentioned there is a cool-off period?  As an adult, what we can help them is to understand what it takes to develop this interest.

Just for example, if a child likes to play piano, then they will need to develop a good musical sense, good ear (to pick up the right tone) and good fingers control and movement (the little muscles).  It's an education for both the child and the parent, that is there are things you need to do well, before you do the next thing.  So, I would prefer them to do it a step at a time.  So, I won't jump into piano and I make her to take general music class instead.  Let her hear more sounds and practice her fingers' control.  And I keep reminding her to know there are plenty of musical instruments and let them experience the other options.  Once she is ready, then she can learn the next thing.

More to that, I have a limit of courses she can attend at one time.  So she also need to learn the demands cannot be fulfilled without limits.  So she can also learn to prioritize and choose.  I think this is something many parents like me are still learning!

Ian

[ 本帖最後由 iantsang 於 11-10-7 16:29 編輯 ]

Calandbaby

請問版主為女兒選了哪四間名校面試?你女兒現時就讀哪一間小學?

iantsang

原帖由 samuel123321 於 11-10-7 23:17 發表
http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=2146170 望一望，時勢際遇，運數，03,04,05同現在升小一差不多一倍人數，學校多咗選揀還會好似以前咁少要求，只不過想帶出時代不停轉孌時勢迫人早幾年一定輕鬆過現在!!!還有學習水準高咗家長亦在教育方面又高咗你話邊有得攞晒以前啲嘢及方法比較，只不過你有行過見到果，但好難同現在俾

Although I am not very sure what you wanna say, at least keeping the record of your post before it disappear!

仕澄母

我覺得坂主，可能同時代脫節。你們看一看，今年所有直資同私校都人山人海，當校方有得選擇時，他會選最好的學生。每個申請表都是形式，那麼個人檔案便是學校選人的手段，當然要看一看申請人是不是跟檔案一樣，這是市場主導

仕澄母

當我個仔見完三間不同類型的學校後，全部都REJECT時，我們都知道兒子出了什麼問題連後補都無而我們都是三無人仕。音X同優X根本得十分鐘同你及仔女見面，你話他們會用什麼選擇？

iantsang

原帖由 仕澄母 於 11-10-7 23:30 發表
我覺得坂主，可能同時代脫節。你們看一看，今年所有直資同私校都人山人海，當校方有得選擇時，他會選最好的學生。每個申請表都是形式，那麼個人檔案便是學校選人的手段，當然要看一看申請人是不是跟檔案一樣，這是市場主導 ...

Thank you very much for your sharing and inputs.

I guess I don't comment how out-dated I am concerning Hong Kong education.

Basically I have witnessed when personal profile was still not a common thing, and yes, I had saw many successful cases who have prepared it in the proper manner and proper timing.

I am certainly aware of the birth rate in the past 10 years, and have keep track with the trend closely.

And really, I am not saying personal profile is totally useless.  There are schools which will indeed use it as reference for their decisions.  But I can tell you for sure, that there are schools which won't look at them at all.  There are schools which concern of characters over ability, so they would need to observe the children through the interviews.  Unfortunately these schools who are the real educators, often time cannot produce the best academic results to suit the taste of parents nowadays.

Most parents nowadays would prefer famous schools and those who can delivered good results.  So, it make sense for these schools to choose the students with the best potential.  This is the simple demand and supply theory.  It makes the total sense.  So, by applying to these schools, you ought to follow their rules of their games, and i.e., work hard to prepare the profile.

Quite frankly, I would suggest you to do some more homework to understand the kind of schools you have applied so that will increase the chances for your son.

I wish you and your son the best of luck!

edea

仕澄母：

恕未能認同，很多學校看的是臨場表現，老實講坊間很多所謂証書都是金錢潮換來，學校根本不會認真。

女拔校長都言明，不需要交portfolio，學校看的是臨場表現。

反之我認為花錢參加一大堆課外活動以求証書再花錢裝飾portfolio才真正落伍了 -  學校要怎樣的學生，並不是在紙上找的。人是活的，紙張是死物，答案並不在幾張紙上找到。

言行有禮，談吐有自信，學校正正喜歡此類學生，錄取機會亦是較高的一群。

[ 本帖最後由 edea 於 11-10-8 00:49 編輯 ]

iantsang

原帖由 samuel123321 於 11-10-8 00:47 發表
除非唔讀名校，但現在時勢個個小朋友都周身刀，今時今曰連一間無咁出名的公立小學一年級都已經教乘數，可況名校點會再揀＂伯母＂學生，名校比賽唔通找伯母出場，最後你又要小朋友學，咁你係校長你都揀有刀在身唔通等你慢慢學咩 ...

原帖由 samuel123321 於 11-10-8 00:47 發表 除非唔讀名校，但現在時勢個個小朋友都周身刀，今時今曰連一間無咁出名的公立小學一年級都已經教乘數，可況名校點會再揀＂伯母＂學生，名校比賽唔通找伯母出場，最後你又要小朋友學，咁你係校長你都揀有刀在身唔通等你慢慢學咩，現實就係現實，校長在公眾埸合會講真心說話？無叻人咁邊個幫學校攞獎，無成績點出名

I am sorry but I think you missed my very very first post.  I am not talking about 名校.  I don't need my daughter to study in a school because it is a 名校.  Out of the 500 something local primary schools, I just need one that is suitable for her, just one which can provide her "real education".  Of course this is just my personal choice.  If other parents would think 名校 is their target then as I said before, you would have to follow their expectation.  I think this is pretty clear, right?

[ 本帖最後由 iantsang 於 11-10-8 01:03 編輯 ]

edea

真的嗎？學得多真的會周身刀張張利？幾歲小人兒，學多一點只是在起跑線走快兩步，若說會精通一技實難以相信。每個小朋友潛質有異，但談吐往往很易領會到小朋友是否smart的一類。

edea

補充：我女都係乜活動都冇學，佢被優X錄取左....

iantsang

原帖由 samuel123321 於 11-10-8 00:58 發表
睇會無睇，

Again, this is for the sake of capturing your post in CASE you delete again.

Anyway, it is always welcome to express ideas and feelings.

However, if possible, please kindly provide your comments in proper sentence structure with proper punctuation for others to understand.  I think this would be really helpful.  Thank you!

[ 本帖最後由 iantsang 於 11-10-8 01:18 編輯 ]

edea

錄取之後，我個女幾年都成績跟到平均分，有愉快學習，同我地當初要求一致，即係唔係錯配，我地覺得滿足呀。

edea

再者錄取同成功無關，關鍵係小朋友同學校係咪錯配。每個小朋友都應該享受學習，並唔會因為跟唔上而失去自信。

iantsang

原帖由 samuel123321 於 11-10-8 01:00 發表

被取錄就代表你得代表你成功？短短十幾二十分鐘，還有續份做未回得切，還有你好彩你咁講真係令全港付出過勞力的家長而傷心

Is this final?  Consider you have edited it twice already, I think you have made your points loud and clear.

Nice chatting, have a wonderful weekend!  Good night!