真道中、小家長聚談

qq_dad

KenBaBa, deniset, and Logos parents,

Please share your view point.  Don't just "三仔爺罕有地去食宵夜，樂也融融".

qq_dad    

P師父 寫道:
已收到通知真道收左個仔, 但聽聞佢地好似係教學方面好混亂 , 周不時上上下堂要調課室 , 又話程度好淺 , 都吾知讀吾讀好 , 吾該比d意見.......  

qq_dad

Hi deniset, and all Logos Parents,

Re :IB Diploma Paradox

1. IB Diploma students have to take at least English and one more language.  Chinese Language is not counted.  So, students MUST learn one more foreign language, like French, German, etc.  Is it true?   

2. IB Diploma is on "project base" while "A-level" or the coming "middle six exam" is on a written exam base.  So, the IB Diploma curriculum MUST NOT BE compatible to the "A-level" nor the "coming middle-six exam".  Is it true?   

3. In the past, Principal Yau only planned for Logos students to attend IB Diploma only.  He did not have any plan before to ask students to attend "middle-six" exam.  However, he changed his plan this year.  Is it true?   

4. Students taking IB Diploma will take 4 subjects only, just like the "GCE A-level", "A-level".  Is it true?
  

What's your answer in your mind?

qq_dad

PoPofamily

Dear P師父,

My child is in DS1(primary 3 for traditional school).  To consider whether your son is fit for Logos or not.  According to the school, he is suitable that why he is accepted.  But you may make a further evaluation.  Is your son very quiet, very obendient, like to follow insturctions strictly, like spoonfeed teaching and hate to explore?  If so, you may consider to take the traditional schools.

For the past two years, I see my son's development is like building up a skyscraper.  In the first year, all the old bad habits were pulled down, so you can only see a building site with holes everywhere.  In the second year, the size of the building began to take shape. This year,  he knows what to do, how to do and to prioritize his works all by himself. Most important, he has been enjoying the classes, the lessons and the homeworks all these years.

To answer your queries, first the teaching method and the materials are planed and assessed beforehand. Secondly, the swapping of lessons are mainly due to the change of teachers, there is the little problem of the teachers quitting the job. I don't know why teachers can be so irresponsible and they are still complaining for this and that. But it seems to have been settled now.  It mainly occurs during the beginning of the school year.  Thirdly, the lessons are specially designed, it may seem to be simple at the start but if you look closer, they are in fact quite difficult.  

PoPofamily

Dear qq_dad,

To your queries at 1, 2 & 4, I will check it up.  but for 3, My answer is NO.  
During my son's interview at 2003, HK was still under the shock of SAR, the economy was so down. I raised my concern to Mr YAU if Logos would prepare the students to take the local examinations so that they may enter HK's universities as well.  He said YES.

deniset

Dear P師父,
First of all, congratulations on the kid's acceptance by Logos!  I agree with PoPofamily, your child must be bright and confirmed to be suitable to the Logos-style of teaching. As far as administration goes, please refer to comments by PoPofamily. The issue has been resolved.  For the curriculum, I didn't think it was “easy” at all. Rather, it is designed differently from the traditional. The children have a vast exposure to different knowledge, from language literacy to disciplinary and moral education. The teaching is not only confined to classroom-style. The children have many chances to learn out of the classrooms. The school offers an extremely solid literacydevelopment during the Foundation Stage. As they advance further to the Development Stage (P3 – S2), the requirement becomes a lot more demanding. The knowledge they gain starts to be more profound. At times, I find it difficult to catch up myself with my child.
You're the one to decide where to put your child at the end. As far as the curriculum at Logos goes, my answer is “No, it is not easy at all for P1”. At Logos, you'll find quite a number of parents (especially those in DS level and above) whose elder child studies in a traditional school, while the younger one studies at Logos. Those parents will definitely be able to see and tell the differences between traditional and Logos schooling. Never rely on a “hearsay”. Rather, you should find an opportunity to talk to some parents and hear their different opinions about the school and the school life of their children.
KenBaBa, you're one good example. If you don't mind, please share your view.
deniset

qq_dad 寫道:
KenBaBa, deniset, and Logos parents,

Please share your view point.  Don't just "三仔爺罕有地去食宵夜，樂也融融".

qq_dad    


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P師父 寫道:
已收到通知真道收左個仔, 但聽聞佢地好似係教學方面好混亂 , 周不時上上下堂要調課室 , 又話程度好淺 , 都吾知讀吾讀好 , 吾該比d意見.......  

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deniset

Hi qq_dad,
Your Q3: At the parents' night for DS1 held in Sept., PY told us that our children would be prepared to sit for the IBD, since the IBD curriculum is a lot more demanding than the new higher secondary exam.
However, our kids would also be given a chance to take the local exam ONLY IF they think they did not do well in the IBD.  PY said our school would probably choose to participate in the IBD to be held in Oct. (given the option to choose between Oct and May). If they are satisfied with their performance after the IBD exam, they would not need to consider the local one (which happens to take place in May). The kids have 6 months to consider.
PY also reiterated that our kids would not be needed to further trained for the local exam because those trained under the IBD are highly competent to sit for the local open exam.
Perhaps you should see the discussions in the PA forum. There will be a talk on the IB on Nov. 1 for DS3 parents. Until then, we may see further discussions and updates from them.
deniset

KenBaBa

qq_dad 寫道: KenBaBa .... Don't just "三仔爺罕有地去食宵夜，樂也融融".

deniset 寫道: KenBaBa, you're one good example. If you don't mind, please share your view.

Dear qq_dad,

嘻嘻，你昨晚好勤力

mmcht

Hi qq_dad,

We just brought a Topgal backsack for my kid in UNI.
  :  :  :

The one you recommend ($115) is a too big for my kid.
      

Finally, my kid choiced the smaller one in yellow(0.5 lbs only), as it can store the files/folder, pencil case, water bottle, some snack and a story book.

Ha, Ha, Ha......,It costs only $76.5(orginal price $85)
    

Anyway, thank you so much again! With your suggestion, we save much time and money, especially the load of the backsack.
      

MMCHT  
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qq_dad 寫道:
Hi mmcht,

For you information, my daughter's backsack is less than 1 lb.

qq_dad   

mmcht

Hi P 帥父，

不如你又聽吓我呢個新丁的分享．

我也是個過來人，做家長既, 又驚學校唔收自己個小朋友，收咗又唔知讀唔讀好．

講明.......以下係我既真心話．

我個小朋友上年考了６間直資小學，有３間收咗，最後揀了真道．

揀真道的原因：

1. 揀呢間學校主要是, 我們十分認同學校的辦學理念.

2. $２０００（ｒｅａｓｏｎａｂｌｅ, 結果發現物超所值．）

3. 真道開多場小一簡介會, 相對於其他學校, 透明度高d.
(開學至今, 仔仔個班主任已主動call過我６次, 你話幾難得, 小學老師與家
長有咁多溝通, 反映透明度高, 下月仲有16次家長觀課活動)

4. 多人報名, 最後揀到既學生, 相對應該係叻d. (上星期之親子旅行, 便發現好多smart kid)

5. 呢間學校非常適合　或　可以說是能容納, 我個好多鬼主義的小朋友.
(可參看我在06-10-20與Mummy 2000分享, 個仔在interview, 對住邱校長是如何喀鬼死我地)

6. 我個friend(教某brand1中學)，佢個仔仔(個仔好bright)都係讀呢間, 我地在作最後決定前, 查看哂佢個仔, 全年既dailylog 及 各科既worksheet, handout, 通告…………...

7. 家長好熱心, 咁ｄ仔女, 唔多唔少都會受影響, 醒d, 待人也熱心d.


MMCHT
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P師父 寫道:
已收到通知真道收左個仔, 但聽聞佢地好似係教學方面好混亂 , 周不時上上下堂要調課室 , 又話程度好淺 , 都吾知讀吾讀好 , 吾該比d意見.......  

KenBaBa

mmcht 寫道:
We just bought a Topgal backsack for my kid  ... the smaller one in yellow (0.5 lbs only) ____________________________________________________________________

qq_dad 寫道:
my daughter's backsack is less than 1 lb.

  

Well,

薄如蟬翼，輕似飄絮；步履如飛，輕鬆上學。 Really so light !!?  我都要去入貨咯 ...    :  

mmcht

Hi qq_dad,

Oh! It sounds so attractive. Thanks for your invitation.     

However, if we join the Choirs(SKCC & LogosPC), my kid has to give up two extra-activities which are held in every Saturday afternoon.
    

Mm..............We need time to consider.     

Ah...........I have two more questions.       

Firstly, what is the training time for Parent Choir? How to apply(walk in)?

Secondly, I cannot found there is an application form in the website. Do you mean that I could direct call the music director for application or go to the training venue for application(walk in)?

真道支團
練習時間：逢星期六下午3時至5時
練習地點： 將軍澳73區A第一及第三期，真道書院小學部

I wish we could sing together in the near future.

Thank for your sharing.


MMCHT :
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qq_dad 寫道:
Hi mmcht,

For the Sai Kung Children Choir information, you may refer to the following.

website : www.skcca.org.hk
tel : 61882805
Music Director : Ms. Elizabeth [email protected]

mmcht, have you thought about joining the Logos Parents Choir?  Its fun and some times PY may share the schools' update with us.

  

deniset

Dear KenBaBa,
Congratulations!!
Thanks indeed for sharing the rest.
See what I meant? You will never disappoint anyone.





<<以上文章是在幾個月前寫的，現在回顧，我們全家四口都完全沒有後悔，相反的是，我們更會珍惜這次機會這個轉變，好好栽培孩子；孩子在學習態度及進度上雖然仍差強人意，惟他正在肯定自己、孝順聽教、有正義感亦有愛心、social 又活潑，在這所學校中諗書，相當匹配，如魚得水！最近他獲提名選作領袖生，我當然立即舉腳讚成啦!!>>

KenBaBa

Dear deniset,

您講

jonmkchan

Dear all and KenBaBa,

I'm coming year FS1 parent for Logos, now still evaluating the school in different aspect. Hope is the best match for my daughter who is quite disciplinary and focusing for studying so far. Logos looks like design for active kid, am I right? I've option to traditional famous school, but not sure what my kid need, I'm in the cross road now.

Is there any pupils in Logos who is migrated from traditional famous school. could you share your  experience right here?

And I have interest to know that it seems there are many extracurricular in logos after school now, so at what time the kids will leave for home normally.

qq_dad

Hi mmcht,

Very glad to know that my Promotions DO get some responses.   

mmcht, thanks for your interest.  First of all, I have to clarify that I am not a commitee member of the SKCC or the PC.  However, I just want to share with Logos Parents for interest activities for the family (parents and kid).   :

After a long introduction, go back to your questions.

Re : Parents Choir
The Parents Choir usually takes place on the first three Satursday from 3 to 5 pm.  We leave the hall to the Logos Christain for the 4th Satursday.

If you want to join, just come and contact the committee member.  KenBaBa, you are new comer to the PC, why don't you share your comment to mmcht?

For the SKCC, I suggest you call SKCC or send an email to the Music Director, Ms. Elizabeth first, to make sure your kid may join the class on that day.  I do think they have room.  KenBaBa again.  Your son is a new comer to the SKCC.  How did he join it?

Look forward to sing with you, too!

qq_dad     

qq_dad

Hi mmcht,

You are very smart.  My wife, too.       Why?
We bought a Topgal backsack last year.  It's cute and very suitable for FS1, and also for hiking.   

We bought a new one this August.
    

qq_dad

KenBaBa, deniset, mmcht, PoPofamily and other Logos parents,

I am really gade to find that more and more parents are willing to share their opinions with prospective parents.  Let me give you salute.   

qq_dad

KenBaBa,

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Dear qq_dad,

....你昨晚好勤力

qq_dad

Hi PoPofamily, deniset and Logos parents,

Thanks for your reply to my "IB Diploma Paradox".

I have recently heard quite a lot of Logos parents querying about the Logos action on IB, including those at PA forum.  So, it makes me decide to voice out these Paradoxes and ask for discussion / clarification.

For the 4 Paradoxes, below are my answers.  All based on personal experience, the IBO website, and my talk to a staff at one the IBO accredited school in Hong Kong.

Paradox 1. IB Diploma students have to take at least English and one more language. Chinese Language is not counted. So, students MUST learn one more foreign language, like French, German, etc. Is it true?  

A : One Primary and one secondary are required.  Chinese language is no doubt counted under the scheme.


2. IB Diploma is on "project base" while "A-level" or the coming "middle six exam" is on a written exam base. So, the IB Diploma curriculum MUST NOT BE compatible to the "A-level" nor the "coming middle-six exam". Is it true?   

A : Students are required to take the IB Diploma examination which are in written form.  Comparing with the "A-level", most of the curriculum are quite similar, but there is also some differences.  For example, "A-level" biology requested students to do the practical paper by "separating" a rat.  However, students attending IB Diploma might not need to do so.  (remark : the studients taking the IB Diploma can still enroll to the Medical Department at HKU and the CUHK).  So, in my viewpoint, if students take IB Diploma course and want to take the "A-level", they might need to study those part only for "A-level".  However, as there will be no more "A-level", we have to compare the curriculum for IB Diploma and the coming "middle-six".  I believe the "middle-six" will be easier than the "A-level".   


3. In the past, Principal Yau only planned for Logos students to attend IB Diploma only. He did not have any plan before to ask students to attend "middle-six" exam. However, he changed his plan this year. Is it true?   

A : During my 7 attendance to the "1. Introductory Talk" (as mentioned by KenBaBa) from 2003 to 2004  : before I become a Logos parents, I recalled PY had said that Logos students had the opportunity to take the IB Diploma Examination, as well as the "coming middle-six" Examination.  So, he has not changed his plan.   

Remark : In my viewpoint, PY is consistnt on the "major direction/matter".  There are many cases.  However, I would like to share one of them which many potential application may ask, "student portfolio".  During those ".1 Introductory Talk" that I attended years ago, I recalled that PY had repeatedly told parents that "student portfolio" was not important for their kid's application.  They rather believed in their interviews.  So, when my daughter applied for Logos, I did not submit her porfolio or even showed it to PY.  PY, it's a test to you.  Ha ha    , I am glad to know that our Vessel Captain is really "consistent", and confident in giving direction to Logos.  Thanks!

4. Students taking IB Diploma will take 4 subjects only, just like the "GCE A-level", "A-level". Is it true?

A : More than that.  Six subjects + extended essay + Theory of Knowledge + "Creativity, action, service".

Six subjects include :
- 2 launguages.  For example, English + Chinese language (group 1 + group 2)

-  individuals and societies, e.g business and management, economics, geography, history, etc.(group 3)

- experimental sciences, e.g. phy, chem, bio, etc (group 4)

- maths / computer science (group 5)

- arts, e.g. visual art, music and theatre arts  (group 6)

Remarks :

- There are two different levels for each of the above subject, High Level and standard level.  For more detail of the differences, you may refer to the IBO website (www.ibo.org)

- Options : quoted from IBO "instead of a group 6 subject, a candidate may select an additional subject from group 1 to 4, or futher maths (standard level), or further  maths and computer science from group 5.

- Exam paper in group 3 to 6 are available in English, French and Spanish.




OK, it finsihed by here.     

PoPofamily

Dear jonmkchan,

My elder child studied in what you called a famous traditional school.  To be a winner in those school, please excuse my frankness, only obedient and focus are not enough.  You must make sure your daughter is a quick learner, loverly(a must for girl schools) and polite or gifted in a specific field(sports, music or speech).   Please also bear in mind that in those schools, marks determine everything.  Kids are classified according to their scores.  As a head student you will have all the praises and applause and your school life will be blissful.  However, there are always students in the middle or lower tiers. They will face endless struggles to do better but sometimes hardworking won't proof good results.  Hence, if your daughter is very bright and tough, go ahead. It is a great challenge but if your daughter  cannot cope with it, it will be a total nightmare. I came from one of those famous traditional school too. I love her.   

As for Logos, I found it suits all the kids chosen by our Principal.  I am a happy Logos parent, hope you will be one too.