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chan803

你都識講啦 "gifted children", 有幾多個係呀? 連一個 proper 的午餐都無得食而你都係要話 ok, 咁咪當 ok law.  我一早已經話過 "囝囡係人地的, 佢地覺得咁樣好 D, 又無犯法, 咪由佢地 law"

3/4 歲 人仔, 幾多個可以話唔鍾意父母咁樣做, 而父母又真係聽佢地話呀?


仲有呀, 現代醫學對d唔駛訓/唔停得的小朋友有個學名, 叫做"過度活躍症"+ [不過唔代表我認同呢個講法]

講多句, 要 "谷兩文", 都唔一定要返兩所唔同的 kinder, 出面有人可以 1 對 1/ 1 對 幾 咁 教小朋友英語.

qmaqmama 寫道:
"虐兒"? I think it's because you and the expert assumed that the child must change at the street and must feel very tried after going to school. The case I know is that the child would not sleep even after going to two schools. There are some gifted children. So, I said it all depends on the style and habit of the child. If you make so many negative assumptions and labellings, you and the expert must be correct in saying "虐兒", but are the assumption the fact? I think every case is different. I would say don't push the child  if he/she does not like. One man's meat is another man's poison.

HuiTung

chan803 寫道:
都識講啦 "gifted children", 有幾多個係呀? 連一個 proper 的午餐都無得食而你都係要話 ok, 咁咪當 ok law.  我一早已經話過 "囝囡係人地的, 佢地覺得咁樣好 D, 又無犯法, 咪由佢地 law"

仲有呀, 現代醫學對d唔駛訓/唔停得的小朋友有個學名, 叫做"過度活躍症"+ [不過唔代表我認同呢個講法]

一早已聯想了這學名, 但沒有說出來, 也是因為這句 : "囝囡係人地的" ..... 唉  poor little things ....

qmaqmama

Yes, I agree with you that most of the children are not suitable to go to two kinders and there are very few gifted children. But, my point is that there must be some cases that the children are very happy to go to two hinders and still have enough sleep (e.g. from 9:15-8:15) Children have different sleeping pattern. Some don't need to nap in the afternoon. Anyway, I think we should be more open and accept the fact that not every child is the same.

chan803 寫道:
你都識講啦 "gifted children", 有幾多個係呀? 連一個 proper 的午餐都無得食而你都係要話 ok, 咁咪當 ok law.  我一早已經話過 "囝囡係人地的, 佢地覺得咁樣好 D, 又無犯法, 咪由佢地 law"

3/4 歲 人仔, 幾多個可以話唔鍾意父母咁樣做, 而父母又真係聽佢地話呀?


仲有呀, 現代醫學對d唔駛訓/唔停得的小朋友有個學名, 叫做"過度活躍症"+ [不過唔代表我認同呢個講法]

講多句, 要 "谷兩文", 都唔一定要返兩所唔同的 kinder, 出面有人可以 1 對 1/ 1 對 幾 咁 教小朋友英語.

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qmaqmama 寫道:
"虐兒"? I think it's because you and the expert assumed that the child must change at the street and must feel very tried after going to school. The case I know is that the child would not sleep even after going to two schools. There are some gifted children. So, I said it all depends on the style and habit of the child. If you make so many negative assumptions and labellings, you and the expert must be correct in saying "虐兒", but are the assumption the fact? I think every case is different. I would say don't push the child  if he/she does not like. One man's meat is another man's poison.

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catcatmom

Dear All

（１）我個仔Ｋ３既ＳＵＭＭＥＲ開始玩ＥＣＡ，玩過一次，佢就樣樣都好鐘意。之前無參任何ＣＯＵＲＳＥ，細個佢好瘦，出細食一安奶，又名一安仔，Ｋ３得３８磅，病完得３６磅。返上午ＫＩＮＤＥＲ，下午一個人砌ＰＵＺＺＬＥ，ＤＲＡＷＩＮＧ幾個鐘，好悶！每天sleep８�７小時便夠，佢不是過度活躍症。
（２）我由Ｋ１開始每日ＴＲＹ講故仔讀圖書比佢，但佢就唔多聽。Ｅ＋由工人講，工人係新來，亞仔好鍾意佢。
我由未結婚之前就幻想，將來有小朋友，就每晚講bed time story，但係我好少講，唔係放工返來好辛苦，唔想講，而係亞仔唔聽！
（３）ＳＡＴ我要返工，捉左老公出去帶，老公唔倍亞仔都係企打機，５會主動親仔，工人要睇亞妹２ＹＲ，ＳＵＮ係我帶乒乓球＆滾軸溜冰。

亞女都係５多訓，自理能力高，１４月介diaper，自己"不"飯食。理解能力高，基本上教佢一次便記得個字。但５多跟人講野，你叫佢講，佢永遠5跟你講。昨日我問佢爸爸係邊個，佢指著爸，工人姐姐，哥哥，婆婆，公公，全部ＯＫ指曬！媽媽呢！佢指著個雪櫃，跟著亞妹hug個雪櫃話係媽媽，跟著大笑！佢心"林"仲玩死你D大人！佢同亞哥一樣就來玩死我！

fai_b

每一個父母心目中自己嘅子女都係最好!
做父母嘅梗係想俾最好嘅俾自己嘅子女,
但現實社會往往係好殘酷,只有你去適應環境,
環境唔會'千'就你!教懂孩了知道唔係樣樣野都係必然,
努力爭取到故然係'好'!努力但失敗多的是!
知足及感謝現在所得的係好重要!
帶個仔去做吓義工,見多d野!
佢再反觀自己所得,可能唔會再見一樣愛一樣!
學懂不等於'精通'!


世上總有例外的,踩兩間幼稚園or番十幾樣課外活動無乜大不了!
只要接受到咪得!無話虐兒與否?
正如玩sm的都唔覺虐待自己係有問題,
相反係'世俗人'睇唔慣!


更令人開心的catcatmon的子女可能是'資優兒童'!
我建議catcatmon去該topic再分享!會啱傾一些呢!

qmaqmama

Dear fai_b,
Very good sharing       
If the children enjoy, it's no point for the other parents and so-called experts said  虐兒.
Yes, I also think that the parents of those 資優兒童 might be more open-mined and accept the fact that there were many different types of children in the world.

fai_b 寫道:
世上總有例外的,踩兩間幼稚園or番十幾樣課外活動無乜大不了!
只要接受到咪得!無話虐兒與否?
正如玩sm的都唔覺虐待自己係有問題,
相反係'世俗人'睇唔慣!


更令人開心的catcatmon的子女可能是'資優兒童'!
我建議catcatmon去該topic再分享!會啱傾一些呢!

fai_b

[size=xx-large]我唔係支持踩兩間幼稚園or番十幾樣課外活動!
好坦白講我一定唔會做以上既野!:tongue:
因為我會認為一個人除左技能外,人格更重要!
如果只看重技能,沒有良好的德育,有幾叻都無用!
周身刀係好!只怕無張利!
致於是否要細細個講英文講到luc luc声!
語言係溝通嘅方法之一,表達自己!
外國人亦會學普通話,但會否迫仔女細細個就好似香港d父母咁唸埋d咁嘅方法?  

chan803

fai_b,

咁你又唔駛咁大反應, 如果唔細心睇你用的比喻, 理解錯咗都唔奇.

仲有, "踩兩間幼稚園or番十幾樣課外活動" 未必真係對小朋友的人格有太大應响, 話晒都唔係佢地自己的選擇.

fai_b

chan803 寫道:
fai_b,

咁你又唔駛咁大反應, 如果唔細心睇你用的比喻, 理解錯咗都唔奇.

仲有, "踩兩間幼稚園or番十幾樣課外活動" 未必真係對小朋友的人格有太大應响, 話晒都唔係佢地自己的選擇.

應該話只係谷哂一邊唔得!教佢地做人嘅'[size=x-large]道理'亦十分重要!

catcatmom

//更令人開心的catcatmon的子女可能是'資優兒童'!
我建議catcatmon去該topic再分享!會啱傾一些呢!//

亞仔唔係資優，脂肪就有好多，訓得少，唔一定係資優兒，這點係肯定，這位家長要多睇下資優兒童這topics,我係常客.
另外亞仔參加８�９幾樣活動，全都係佢鍾意subjects.我叫佢學日文，佢都唔so我啦!
//there were many different types of children in the world.//
小朋友同大人一樣，有唔同既性格。當年我屋企重男輕女，比埋錢亞哥去美國讀書，佢都唔去！話辛苦喎! 我就好好好想去！但亞媽話Ｄ錢係留比仔既！我好興！咪自己嘈錢去羅！
直接Ｄ講，有Ｄ父母適心安排甘多課外活動比小朋友，有好多唔令情+!好似亞仔有時都偷懶唔彈琴，我咪大 聲話,係你逼我比你學+!佢就拿拿聲,坐係到彈半粒鐘!
角色係調轉+!

qmaqmama

Did anybody said that you supportted children to go to two kinders   I think NO...

I just said I agreed with your point that there are exceptional cases in the world....I myself also think that go to two kinders would not be suitable for most chidren. It is common sense but I think we should respect the others and not to use the bad terms to label the others.

fai_b 寫道:
[size=xx-large]我唔係支持踩兩間幼稚園or番十幾樣課外活動!
-(  

HuiTung

stccmc 寫道:

人地話虐兒, 梗係講一般小朋友而言, 唔通人地指少數的資優兒, 過度活躍兒, 你家的寶貝兒, 或火星來的兒童咩。  不要對號入座吧!

做父母的, 不能孩子說一句"喜歡", 便放任他們。

對對對.

還有, 這題目是"家長要孩子[size=large]谷兩文, 所以要佢讀兩幼園", 唔係你地心中認為佢得, 或者自動獻身果種, 所以說成虐兒, 絕對正確!

jan_mom

一個小朋友每日都要踩兩間幼稚園，我諗係唔係虐兒，只有果d阿媽先可以自行決定。

無錯，有好多家長都會認為自己既小朋友係精力充沛，智慧過人，做功課快手，又唔洗點訓，但係，正常既一個幼稚園小朋友，係咪應該正常咁返一間幼稚園呢？大家有冇諗過，自己個小朋友咁叻可以返兩間幼稚園(我諗冇乜家長會俾自己既小朋友上下午都返程度差既幼稚園卦！)，但另外一D家長，個小朋友又可能俾你地果D差少少既，好學校既學位就咁俾你地霸住晒，迫住佢地既小朋友要去讀D差少少既幼稚園。個個做家長既都想望子成龍架啦！但一小撮人既自私，就令到另一班人無機會入好D既幼稚園，大家又係咪應該為自己自私既行為反省下呢？

一個小朋友無論讀書幾叻，課外活動有幾好，大家又知唔知佢地心目中最想要既係咩？唔係同其他人去鬥叻，而係爹哋媽咪可以有多D時間陪佢地呀！我都係一個要返幾份工既家長，平時都係冇乜時間陪自己既小朋友，但原來自己既小朋友，就算冇時間陪佢出街玩，食完飯可以有少少時間坐低陪佢睇下書，打下機，佢都會好開心。呢D親子時間，唔係課堂或者課外活動可以俾到佢地，又或者，到佢地大個左，唔再需要爹哋媽咪陪既時候，到時就冇機會去後悔架啦！

catcatmom

//好學校既學位就咁俾你地霸住晒//
睇清楚這個topics,係踏一間國際，踏一間local，等小朋友兩文三語都好fit ,唔係上午根德，下午ＳＣ，所以無mud話霸住晒曬d位喎！

//大家又知唔知佢地心目中最想要既係咩？//
你要經同亞仔頃＋，問佢學唔學到野？開５開心？之前亞仔自己要求換琴老師，佢話佢教得唔好！唔可以話，佢想學
ｍｕｄ就比佢學ｍｕｄ，我會賽後檢討，唔係怕佢辛苦，而係怕佢曬我ｄ錢！

//我都係一個要返幾份工既家長//
返幾份工，係回應之前一位家長，如果要小朋友踏兩間kindger，甘問番ｄ媽咪返幾份工，得唔得？其實我未生大Ｂ細Ｂ時，係做三份工既！仲讀埋書tim！之後就做唔到啦！
晚晚倍仔睇下電視discovery channel，一定有，指定動作！但就無mud好似哈佛女孩甘經常去博物館，植物園，因大致去過一次，亞仔唔再去啦！

我無本事好似其他媽咪甘，出去學phonics，番來教個仔，我都比錢人賺！你教佢英文咩？佢話你英文發音唔正確，媽咪你Ｄ英文唔好!例如呢？個"H";"Ｚ"羅！甘應點講呀！.......如果要亞仔二選其一，Mr.Don(教亞仔英文既老師）or 媽咪教佢英文，佢一定選擇前者。
甘catcatmom你就失敗啦！

monmantong

Different mom has her own point of view, I think there is no conclusion ... need not agrue here.

jan_mom

//睇清楚這個topics,係踏一間國際，踏一間local，等小朋友兩文三語都好fit ,唔係上午根德，下午ＳＣ，所以無mud話霸住晒曬d位喎！ //

乜好學校一定係國際o既咩？local冇好學校咩？咁踩兩間果d會唔會上下午都讀普通既幼稚園呢？如果咁樣都唔叫霸住d位，就真係唔知點先係霸住囉~~

  

catcatmom

��分身兼讀 傳統及國際學校
為使子女自小掌握兩文三語，不少家長在教育網站的討論區中，透露自己已安排子女就讀兩間幼稚園，更互相交流「心得」。他們大多選擇兩間教學方法及辦學形式大為不同的幼稚園，例如上午就讀英語教學的國際幼稚園，下午則到中文教學的傳統學校。��

請留意page 1 最初post出來既新聞係o甘!請對號入坐.
例如你個仔係讀 anfield international,beacon hill, christian school, montessori, kingston,tutor time, 英 基幼稚園等...佢地果Ｄ踏兩間都羅一個位, 讀到K2便升讀Ｐ１。

例如你個仔讀local kinder,如根德園，st catherine's，佢地都係羅一個位，無話霸住晒曬d位。同你讀一間幼稚園既家長無contradiction。

係咪讀左國際學校小朋友英文會叻到"鎮"？你永遠唔知！小朋友係咪好辛苦？你永遠唔知！如果答案要人認同，除非你係當時人，否則客觀地吹下水,算把啦！

jan_mom 寫道:
//睇清楚這個topics,係踏一間國際，踏一間local，等小朋友兩文三語都好fit ,唔係上午根德，下午ＳＣ，所以無mud話霸住晒曬d位喎！ //

乜好學校一定係國際o既咩？local冇好學校咩？咁踩兩間果d會唔會上下午都讀普通既幼稚園呢？如果咁樣都唔叫霸住d位，就真係唔知點先係霸住囉~~

  

fai_b

catcatmom 寫道:
//更令人開心的catcatmon的子女可能是'資優兒童'!
我建議catcatmon去該topic再分享!會啱傾一些呢!//

亞仔唔係資優，脂肪就有好多，訓得少，唔一定係資優兒，這點係肯定，這位家長要多睇下資優兒童這topics,我係常客.
另外亞仔參加８�９幾樣活動，全都係佢鍾意subjects.我叫佢學日文，佢都唔so我啦!

唔駛你指導我都有去睇資優兒童這topics!
不如我講'白'd!
我叫你往資優兒童這topics原因係見咁多家長勁出Post話你啫!梗係唔係因為你個仔瞓得少而叫你去資優兒童這topics!

真係路過睇到都有點吃不消,你太show off 了!唔係妒忌你仔女叻,而係你講到個仔好似個成年人咁,又自律,又叻,又唔駛瞓,個女又係勝人一籌。我唔覺其他支持家長送孩子讀兩幼園都唔係好似你咁!仲要成日Reply其他mama,否定他人心中見解啫!
P.S.唔駛你再Reply我,因大家唔啱Channel,唔想再講!