有冇準備遲d番外國定居嘅家長?小朋友會讀IS定local?

torunpoland

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首先回答樓主的問題.
我們遲些會返外國定居，時間表未定，但相信若孩子有能力讀大學，應該會去外國就讀。所以，我答你的問題是IS，我們選國際學校。

至於中文學習，以我所見，本地小學的中文學習方法頗為沉悶，各校暗地比賽過分抄得多抄得深，又用學外語的方法教本地孩子學中文，誠然大錯特錯，可謂不智。又，某校中文老師說掏出來等於拿出來一說，貽笑大方，師資質素難免令我質疑。中學的中文科教法及考法，亦過於側重中文的功能性，先刪範文然後復之，雖為撥亂反正，實屬可喜之象，但亦反映當局迷失其中，進退失據。在我角度而言，靠學校教孩子中文當中的可預見水平，未能乎合我的要求。上論所及乃方法成效，而論學習興趣，頗取決於教法，所以，我意見是：追課程趕進度跑目標的過程中，孩子未及回氣沉澱已經跳到下一課文，哪兒有興趣之說？即使有都是靠家庭"煽風點火"，給予閱讀時間從中找中文的樂趣。基於上述，我不太認為就讀本地學校的孩子對中文的興趣，會高過家中有配套的國際學校學生。國際學校學生最基本是不用天天做功課，便有時間看書玩樂。

就競爭力方面而言，已有網友闡述分享，小妹不贅。競爭力是一項相當含糊的指標，當中涉及辛勤努力等一般人喜歡的美德，但我相信，也包括創造力／創意／破革／立新的元素。後者，本人深信本地教育教／培養不來。

Artie

torunpoland  我正覺得本地小學的中文頗不濟。   發表於 11 分鐘前

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我對現時本地小學中文課程不熟悉。
只是眼見小女和小兒雖然中文科只是 CHINESE B ( IB )，但他們日常讀寫也尚算 OK，看懂中文報章，中文餐牌，IB 公開試也要作文 ( 300 字起 for CHINESE B SL, 450 字起 for CHINESE B HL)，當然，同 DSE 比當然冇得比，但其實唔係好多人講到咁差。

DreamKid

原帖由 pc430 於 15-02-05 發表
我同c6會係阿仔初中近返澳州長住,阿字係超12月尾超細b,已有沙田一線津校自行offer,另外ESF SJS應該都會有of ...

As I said before, I think you prefer LS and thus you should go with what you value.  Don't worry about the kid adopting to the new environment.  Whether it is now or later, he needs to adjust.

One more point to support your choice, actually IS is not that "hea" when you get to year 5/6 and above.  Why don't you just leave him in local school system.

You seem to use the old generation behaviour to project the younger one.  But I can tell you the young ones all want work life balance.  I am sure you come across many of them in your work too.

DreamKid

原帖由 torunpoland 於 15-02-09 發表
本帖最後由 torunpoland 於 15-2-9 18:05 編輯

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香港宜家既中文老師以為大陸既中文就係好中文。攪到宜家的中文非常差。你睇下大陸的野，睇完都唔知佢講物。你再睇下幾多人在 EK 問中文補習/作文就知 LS 宜家既情況。既然都係要補，我就唔明的人點解係要話 IS 學校中文差要補，又唔話 LS 中文差。

FattyDaddy

torunpoland 發表於 15-2-9 17:57
某校中文老師說淘出來等於拿出來.

That teacher probably came from China, and he probably meant to say 掏出來等於拿出來. 淘 of course means a different action.

Which brings up another point, with the HK Government pushing Chinese language teaching in PuTongHua, it is likely that more and more Chinese language teachers in local schools will have a China background, and children might pick up more than just a language but also a mentality from them, such as "沒有香港人的". Whether that is desirable or not will depend on individual families.

For many local parents who opt for international schools, trivializing the Chinese language is usually not one of their aims, but avoiding a certain mentality is. It is true that many Chinese language teachers in international schools have a China background too, but they teach just the language and not much else.

torunpoland

Typo, now corrected

torunpoland

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It is back to the discussion we touched upon a few days ago. Immunization or detoxication.

shadeslayer

原帖由 torunpoland 於 15-02-09 發表
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If my kid or kids is/are able to go to college and to study history, my goo ...

That is cool indeed.

licpd

LS 最大問題是唔知點解老師們樣樣都要管，去toilet要管，問候禮儀要管，儀容要管，樣樣野有一套規矩要跟，學生甚少自主權，，學生出到來真系要detox！我唔知系未有的IS 都是這樣，但LS 應該都沒有free的！

nicolelaiyy

其實知唔知有冇d本地直資學校，是活動教學，學生與學生間能操地道英語，學校鼓勵閱讀，探索，小功課考测等等.其實很想讀IS, 女兒也有ESF offer, 但budget不是很鬆，想留番多些錢將來出國讀書。大家知唔知有冇本地直資學校有近似國際學校教法？


Thanks a lot!

caa

nicolelaiyy 發表於 15-2-10 14:22
其實知唔知有冇d本地直資學校，是活動教學，學生與學生間能操地道英語，學校鼓勵閱讀，探索，小功課考测等 ...

合你要求的直資學費也不太便宜吧

worc1361

原帖由 nicolelaiyy 於 15-02-10 發表
其實知唔知有冇d本地直資學校，是活動教學，學生與學生間能操地道英語，學校鼓勵閱讀，探索，小功課考测等 ...

I guess may be local school like runs ib? Creative primary school? CKY?

nicolelaiyy

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so u know the students in creative / cky can speak in native English to each other?

shadeslayer

原帖由 worc1361 於 15-02-10 發表
I guess may be local school like runs ib? Creative primary school? CKY?

These would be as expensive compared to ESF. Quality education has a price.

As for native English. Even some IS cannot keep the playground language as English. If the playground language is not English it is very difficult,if at all possible, to achieve native or close to native English. Let alone local schools. (DSS included).

torunpoland

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無意詆譭CKY學生。我先後來次去過CKY開放日，見學生有禮周周，我又和他們傾談，試用英文與他們對答，他們的英文水平都好好好好好好，非常流暢，但說到是不是native的水平，我就有保留。但已經好好好好好好好好好好好好。

964000

原帖由 torunpoland 於 15-02-10 發表
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無意詆譭CKY學生。我先後來次去過CKY開放日，見學生有禮周周，我又和他們傾談， ...

我覺得你係讚CKY吾係詆毁，如果keep到識看寫中文和好xN英文程度，已經好好了

nicolelaiyy

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現在的國際學校，都好小有一半人唔識講廣東話，咁即係話讀國際學校也不能操到native English了

lovecasey

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我諗佢個意思係小朋友用英文溝通，不會主動講中文！

fatcni

I think sth is more important than evaluating students's language ability. I am talking how much the teachers/ schools  bound the students.
My friend's two daughters were studying in famous Catholic church kindly in the island. During lunch time, each student is given same portion and varieties of food. My friend elder daughter was a bit picky on foods Ms she left all carrots and could not finish all rice. The teacher them gave a call to my friend and complaint her daughter is bad on eating and require my friend to fix her at home.
My daughter is studying in an IS kinda. During lunch time, varieties of foods are ready on table and each student is free to take whatever they want. My daughter is also picky, she also refuse to take foods she doesn't like. Teachers have no complain to me but would her to encourage students to at least eat a bit of the foods they don't want to try the taste.
I tend to agree with the way IS does as I also hv some foods they I dislike. Teachers are there to help and lead, but not complain and control. If a student was not being treated respectfully, how can I teach her/him to respect others?!
Of course I am not saying all LS are like this but you gotta choose and understand each school's character.