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Re: 有無小朋友憑宗教分考到好學校呀?
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toystory 寫道:KKParent ,Let me tell u : I'm neither a christian nor catholic, so what??[quote]
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Toystory:
It is because you are not a christian or catholic, SO I am understanding your feeling and empathic your suffer at this moment.
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KK 寫道:I did not mention I was the one … how come is 5分利益者?
Itoystory 寫道:I did not said, ‘all 衛道之士 are 既得5分利益者’ BUT I've just said, “當然有衛道之士(他們應該大多數是既得5分利益者)…” Pls. note I'm just saying : majority of them, but not ALL of them.
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This point I knew. But do you know some christian and catholic parents also give up their 宗教5分?
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KK 寫道:And I think Religious School WANT to receive those who have same religion rather than those have BIG Difference religion children. They did not say that they MUST NOT or WILL NOT accept those 未有宗教信仰的孩子. And I really do not agree <<在第一輪自行收生中，末有宗教信仰的孩子不是被摒棄於校門外嗎？>> Do you have any figure to support this?How do you know that 宗教學校不願意收取未有宗教信仰的孩子? Do you have any papers or figure to show us? If yes, I really want to know which 宗教學校 never accept 未有宗教信仰的孩子.
toystory 寫道:They are the same questions. In the 1st round, can u tell me is there any student without religious background can enter those famous religious schools ??? Let me tell u, even I haven't any exact figures. In this round, these schools only accept those having higher marks by (1) their parent are old boys or (2) they have religious background, either one or both of them. On the contrary, those not having religious background definitely CANNOT enter these schools. Can u see the logic??
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YOU asked ""In the 1st round, can u tell me is there any student without religious background can enter those famous religious schools ??? "" If I still remember, there have parents in BK and their kids accepted by those famous religious school in the first round allocation without religion marks. Why do not you ask them how come they can get into those school?
YOU seems working in HKEduDept. How come you can know ALL children who accepted by famous religious primary school because their religion and OLD boys/girls? And THOSE children who do not have religion CANNOT enter those primary school?
I tell you one example; my friends' kid only got 15 marks and also can get a seat in Maryknoll convent college-primary section in first allocation. [10 marks for AGE, 5 marks for First kid in family] Unless, you say Maryknoll convent college is not a famous regilious school in your list.
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KK 寫道:In first allocation, they are counting how many marks they've got NOT ONLY 宗教信仰. Why do not you say <<在第一輪自行收生中，NOT old boys/girls 的孩子被摒棄於校門外>>
toystory 寫道:DO u mean that “the old boys counting system is also unfair, so let another unfair system (the religious mark) exist?? It seems to me : ‘He is also a murderer, why only arrest me?’
In fact, I criticize the whole counting system, including (1) the old boys or relation with schools, (2) elder brother/sister (3) religion and (4) the home location as well before in other threads. But I focus at our topic -- religion mark only in this thread.
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I did not arrest you but just raise the problem at the same time. I think you so sensitive.
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KK 寫道:If you 尊重宗教和有宗教信仰的人, I think you won't say that. You said <<反對捍衛這制度而批評別人做法的人 >>, how about you? What is your point? Why do not we have difference comment/opinion on this topic? Please put yourself on others' shoes. You can 批評別人 but why we can NOT!
toystory 寫道:Excuse me. I'm not the one who criticize other first. I respect the regions and those having religious beliefs because they DON'T create these unfair system. The culprits are those who suggest and uphold these unfair system. Can u see the difference??
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According to your point, would you mind tell me who create this unfair policy? I am not 捍衛這制度 or this 制度 既得利益者. I also suffer from this unfair policy but I know the rule of the game. Can YOU see the difference?
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KK 寫道:Would you mind tell me how do they 既得利益者? And how do you know they are 是倡議者?
toystory 寫道:It is just my rational guess. Can u tell me is it possible that it was suggested by someone without any religious benefits or just by our CE - Mr. TUNG?? The religious bodies should swear to the GOD to let us know they are innocent if they didn't.
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As you say, if they only want to use this policy to refuse non regilous child enter their school, why do not they mark up the marks to 10 ,15 or more. So, they will ease to accept those same regilious child enter their school then.
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toystory 寫道:About my counter-proposal,
To be fair, 可否倡議沒有宗教信仰的父母/子女報讀沒有宗教信仰的學校，這些人應多加5分(那些有宗教信仰的父母/子女自然沒有這5分) ，那些贊成宗教分的人會否同意？為什麼有宗教信仰的人能有多項選擇呢？
Why don't u let us know your views? Agree or not? Difficult to answer??
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[Grin] You only put your eyes on the NEGATIVE comments. Well, I have no comment on this point actually. If I could suggest a solution to HKEduDept., I will suggest them to cease those unfair policies altogether not only 宗教分.
It's so easy to answer your question why difficult?! I did not see any difficulty. Unless, you think I stand for this unfair policy [宗教分]; 捍衛這制度;既得5分利益者 and the one only ARREST you.
Do not you know that I also against this 宗教分?
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