小朋友幾多歲開始學琴好D呢?

cottontail

Ming2, 你真係好好人又好心機, 你個小朋友真係有福氣啦 ,有個咁好既媽咪, 我自己既小朋友都係學緊琴(年半), 但講真我地屋企無人識欣賞音樂 (包括我, 我去聽過d 純音樂演奏, 我係會訓著o個d 人尼架。 ) 所以 我好想個仔學音樂, 希望佢大時, 可以真正懂得欣賞音樂, (唔好好似我地咁。) ) 但我所指既音樂唔係指淨係識彈琴或者單玩樂器, 而係真正既音樂藝術, 所以對於佢彈琴反而唔係好執著, 可能我見過好多人學琴只係同阿媽交代, 攞左張八級CERT, 就以後再唔彈琴, 真係真正既哂$$哂時間, 都唔知為乜﹏( LYN, 唔好怪我多口, 你有冇考慮過尼點丫??) 老實講我都好想個仔考倒八級, 但如果佢同我講佢想唔再學, 我反而會叫佢停一停先, 休息下幾個月或者一年, 再考慮考慮, 因為我覺得如果一個人真係愛音樂, 一定唔會放棄音樂, ( 愛一個人一樣。) 所以唔好俾壓力你自己同個仔啦, 放開D, 況且小朋友學琴都係自娛既多, 同佢係唔係八級冇乜關係。(多嘴左, 唔好怪我丫 )

csk

ming2

很喜歡看你的回應，對小朋友學琴的疑惑，你解釋得好清楚，有時唔好意思問老師的問題，你都會令我知道老師的想法。我其實很好奇想問，從前F.5考八級鋼琴已是很理想的進度，但現在很多人目標是小六考到八級，其實由三級考到八級，一般需要幾多年？幾時要考樂理？我兒子明年才考二級，亦不打算催谷，只想計算還要投資多少時間和金錢。

Lyn

以前我也有叫兒子試彈老師未教的歌，後來發覺這樣老師便不能知道兒子真正的程度，或許留給老師教新歌，你叫兒子練好歌曲，對拍子、手勢、感情表達要求高一點，貴精不貴多，效果更好。

Ima

Hi ming2,

我囡昨天開始上第一課, 學手勢, 先彈黑色琴鍵 : 2,3,2,3... 左右手輪流彈, 正確嗎?

cheers
Ima

gigi2

Hello, Ming2,

You are really really helpful!!!  You've provided a lot of information about the piano learning to parents here.  Thank you very much indeed.

Could I ask you a question?

My kid has just started piano playing and is taught by a personal tutor at home.  The teacher, who I've known her for many years, is a young lady with experience in teaching small kids to play piano.  Up to the moment, what I feel is that she is a very responsible teacher but sometimes she is lack of skills to teach kids in a funny & simple way ie. when she has to teach some difficult notes, I need to explain to my kid as well.  Sometimes, my kid will get quite bored in the class but fortunately she is still interested with piano learning.

The duration of class is 1 hour at home every week.  Initially, she will teach her new notes/parts every class but after my request she now teaches the new parts every alternate class as I find that the progress should be slowed down a bit (I also learn the piano together with my kid).

So far, after 3 months the progress of piano teaching covers the parts of another C, G Major & F sharp.  Also going to finish the green book Stage 2 (we have finished 2 books already).  Is the progress too fast?  Honestly,  I got no interest to learn piano if that's not my kid's interest & I need to practise and encourage her, I won't want to take it indeed...

Sorry to bother you a lot!  So far my kid does not resist to practise piano but she starts to find it more difficult than at the beginning.  I'm afraid that I can't help her at later stage...

Could you give me any suggestion?  

JP

Lyn,

睇左你post 既message勾起我以下既經歷回憶:

我大仔4歲９個月開始學琴,個老師好進取,進度好快,佢要我仔每星期學2堂(每堂45min),話咁樣就可以升中前考到8級(佢有兩個學生係咁)!我仔P1 summer考grade3,我覺得進度好好。後來佢教我仔彈Bach Two Parts Inventions, Mozart 8級

Umi

ming2,

好多謝你既提醒, 我真係袋左好多$$落袋, 我要用另一個方法引導我個女先得, 有咩進展再同你分享!

thx so much!

cottontail

我就係想個仔有尼種學習心態:

著名鋼琴家傅聰說過:學樂器的出發點應係對精神境界的追求,對音樂有"大愛之心",與學美術.文學一樣是一種人格的修養。

Ming2,
我好明白你既心情, 等於我地大人有大學程度, 咁掂都好想自己既小朋友最少有同我地相同或更高既學歷, 但其實佢地都係一個獨立既個體, 我個仔細時, 我地好懷疑佢有自閉傾向 同 學習能力, 當時我好傷心亦好擔心, 只希望佢身心健康, 跟住佢大小小, 就除左希望佢身心健康之外, 最好有自理既能力, 再大d, 就希望佢可以與音樂同行.... 你話我地幾貪心丫, 所以有時我地都要自己停一停, 唸一唸自己做緊乜野 , 不過掂都好啦, 我知你一定會處理得好好, 用番JP o個句>>>>大家共勉之   

gigi2

Ming2,

Really appreciate with your help and comments.  You are so kindness and we are very lucky to have you in BK.

JP,

Though your message is not to me, your experience could give me some ideas on my further request to the piano teacher.  Perhaps she's still young, I need to discuss with her more about the progress schedule as well as the focus on the correct skills/ gestures while playing piano.

Lyn

Dear Ming2,

你真是我們眾人的偶像, 這個topic是你的個人專欄.

家中的電子琴是小兒的兩歲生日禮物, 我由網上得知電子琴會練壞手勢, 所以仔仔一直都在琴行練琴的. 該琴只有我用來研究新歌和自娛用.

多謝你的專業指點, 我會緊記. 你的答話我都save下來呢.  

Ming2, JP, csk & cottontail,

多謝你們的寶貴意見. 我的message 使大家產生誤會, 是我始料未及. 自認不是那種篤信 “籐條下出精英” , 但我信奉 “因才施教”. 可能我問的問題易比人覺得我是個急功的人, 但我不是.

裁員前我一直工作, 在office工作的人, 腦中的concept 是 efficiency & effective. 以前奉獻給公司的時間, 現在就只好奉獻給我兒. 專家一致認為, 母愛在小童的各方面發展中都起今人意想不到的作用. 我絕對相信世上有天才存在, 但, 我不能也 cannnot afford 讓仔仔天生天養, 我不能用十多年來證明, 他原來未能如別人那樣可以自小天天玩閃卡、睇電視、中學天天打藍球、踼玻, 到時到候可以考入港大讀法律或醫.  

我沒有讓仔仔參加那些珠算班、公文、學林數、英文、劃畫、普通話等興趣班, 因他的英文和普通話都是我獨攬上身, 我不想他到處赶上興趣班, 自己的自由時間少了. 仔仔剛上P1, 功課不算多, 一般都不超過一小時, 一星期有四次到琴行練45分鐘的琴. 放心, 仔仔學業、練琴、玩耍都得以平衡發展.

唉, 離題了, 共勉之.

Rgds,
Lyn

JP

Lyn, csk,

關於學幾耐考八級,以下資料可供參考---

報紙報導:本港青年鋼琴家李嘉齡4歲半開始學琴,當同齡小朋友在玩耍遊戲之際,她只專心練琴,7歲入演藝學琴,每天花6小時練琴,11歲考獲八級, F5考取所有演奏級文憑,在演藝以一級榮譽畢業,今年奪得Seiler國際鋼琴比賽冠軍。

"每天花6小時練琴,11歲考獲八級"---尼個八級係ming2所講既真正八級,而非只識彈考試歌既八級!試問我地既小朋友有咁既能耐嗎?

冇錯而家的確愈來愈多小朋友升中前已獲八級,原因可能係老師/家長催谷(升中有利丫嘛),佢地當中有幾人係真正八級呢?又有幾人係真正喜愛鋼琴呢?

csk

JP

謝謝你的資料。小兒絕不是李嘉齡、張緯晴這些咁有天份又努力的人，他只是對音樂幾有興趣，所以我才想他會不會完成八級。看到你的分享，我其實也有類似問題，我兒子的老師要求不高，他彈上次教的歌曲，只要拍子準和流暢便可以，老師對手勢並不嚴格，我成日擔心彈壞手勢好難改。今年他會參加校際音樂節一級鋼琴，我希望他藉比賽觀摩別人的水準。你兒子上年參加（Grade 3)79分其實已好叻。你替兒子找到好老師，養精蓄銳，明年再大顯身手。

JP

csk,

我之前都以為只要音符、拍子準和流暢便可以,但其實手勢、彈奏技巧、大細

Ima

ming2,

明白曬la, Thanks  

krin

JP,
Totally agree with what you said, everyday spent 6 hrs to practice piano, 11-yr-old can achieved level 8, can our children do like that?Absolutely he won't be my child.....
Of course he can achieve to level 8, that's the bonus, but for myself, now the main task is how to keep him loving to play piano, enjoy the process in learning piano and enjoy the benefit of learning of piano(can train both right and left brain)....at least when the kid are still small.....     

JP

ming2,

早晨喇!係呀,你要多d上來交流丫!

尋晚收到琴試成績表喇,都ok咁啦!

我買左飛31 Oct.同大仔去聽廖國偉&HK Philharmonic Orchestra. This is our first time ley!