聖心私立 (Sacred Heart) Vs St Paul Convent 邊間好d?

super123

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Crabmeatsoup 寫道:
St. Paul's Convent 啦﹐英文勁好多﹐D學生都好似叻D喎﹗
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我又唔覺 St. Paul's Convent 的學生英文勁D同叻D, 我相信聖心小學的學生在英文方面亦同樣很出息,只視乎家長較喜歡半日制小學或是全日制小學！

Lelu

There is no bias.  Historial data is factual.

HKCEE 2005 result:
SPC over 85% obtaining grade A to C.
SHC around 50% obtaining grade A to C.
All schools obtaining grade A to C - 12%
All schools passing rate - 85%

Source: SPC and SHC respective website.

Vernique2005

For your reference, this is how SPC & SH are different in terms of English teaching.  (I've seen the worksheets & composition exercises from both school.)

SPC:  Focus on actual usage of English.  The school really stresses that English is a language to be used.  In other words, if you can read a P3 reader, the school will assume that you can speak English at a P3 level or even to be able to write as a P3 level.  As a result, the students' levels in reading, writing, speaking & vocab skills are quite balanced.  It's less likely for you to find someone who can read a P5 book in P2 but is unable to speak English fluently.

Grammar--the students know how to use the tenses & other patterns, but they may not know the technical terms.  To them, phrasal verbs/preposition seems not to be a big problem because they often adopt them in speech.

Writing--emphasize on expression

SH:  Seems to be separating grammar from oral/writing.  In SH, the students know grammar rules, phrasal verbs & preposition very well.  However, this is more through drilling exercises and memorization.  The spelling of students from SH is also quite good (better than SFA, even though SFA is not bad already   )

Below are something that you may need to memorize in SH:

a "B", an "M", an "A", a "J"

Actually, these can be done through phonics.  B--/bee/, not beginning with a vowel sound, use "a", M--/Em/, beginning with a vowel sound, use "an"..etc

If you go to secondary school, memorization will play a more and more important role.  You will have lists of preposition/other worksheets to study before the exam.  

In terms of reading, you may often find P2 students reading P5 books, etc.  Since they know many vocabs, they understand the readers very quickly.  However, they may not be able to speak/write at a similar level.  Mostly because they lack the training to do so.

So, to many SH students, English seems to be "the academic language."  They'd perform well in test, but don't seem to enjoy using it in everyday life.

Of course, these are just observations. It doesn't account for every child in SPC or SH.

BoBoCute

FatWater 寫道:
綜合個人和朋友交流，SPC 不會收“細女”，報名都無謂。SH則不會以年齡為首要標準﹝校外叩門生﹞。

I thought so before and did not apply for my girls.  But my friend's daughter was admitted to K1 coming year.  She was born in Sept.  What a surprise!  

DomanFans

Vernique2005,

Thanks for the info.

In terms of the mode of teaching, do both schools use "daily immersion" and create many many chances for the students to use eng.?

Also, do u think a primary students (say, P5) in these schools can use oral english to communicate effectively?

Vernique2005 寫道:
For your reference, this is how SPC & SH are different in terms of English teaching.  (I've seen the worksheets & composition exercises from both school.)

SPC:  Focus on actual usage of English.  The school really stresses that English is a language to be used.  In other words, if you can read a P3 reader, the school will assume that you can speak English at a P3 level or even to be able to write as a P3 level.  As a result, the students' levels in reading, writing, speaking & vocab skills are quite balanced.  It's less likely for you to find someone who can read a P5 book in P2 but is unable to speak English fluently.

Grammar--the students know how to use the tenses & other patterns, but they may not know the technical terms.  To them, phrasal verbs/preposition seems not to be a big problem because they often adopt them in speech.

Writing--emphasize on expression

SH:  Seems to be separating grammar from oral/writing.  In SH, the students know grammar rules, phrasal verbs & preposition very well.  However, this is more through drilling exercises and memorization.  The spelling of students from SH is also quite good (better than SFA, even though SFA is not bad already   )

Below are something that you may need to memorize in SH:

a "B", an "M", an "A", a "J"

Actually, these can be done through phonics.  B--/bee/, not beginning with a vowel sound, use "a", M--/Em/, beginning with a vowel sound, use "an"..etc

If you go to secondary school, memorization will play a more and more important role.  You will have lists of preposition/other worksheets to study before the exam.  

In terms of reading, you may often find P2 students reading P5 books, etc.  Since they know many vocabs, they understand the readers very quickly.  However, they may not be able to speak/write at a similar level.  Mostly because they lack the training to do so.

So, to many SH students, English seems to be "the academic language."  They'd perform well in test, but don't seem to enjoy using it in everyday life.

Of course, these are just observations. It doesn't account for every child in SPC or SH.

Sindy

你女既英文係靠tutor or 學校??thanks

samuellor 寫道:
Dear All,

My girl is studying in P1 of SPC. I don't know whether SPC is using daily immersion method. I only know, she can speak English without any difficulty. I employ a private English Tutor for her. Her English standard assess by this tutor is in P3. I and my wife don't speak English with her at home.

SPC is a very good school. She can train up the self-discipline of the students. The students are more active.

Cheers,

FatWater

Sept, Nov of the year or year before?

My personal experience was that my girl and my friend's girl were both outsiders, comparable background & school report, and no relationship to SPC whatsoever, applied after the P1 allotment, hers got interview and mine heard nothing.  We strongly believed in the age difference.

Though it has not been written down, many of the so-called elite schools in HK explicitly spell out that they do not like "細女".

samuellor 寫道:
Dear All,

SPC accept small girls. One of my daughter's classmate is Nov. AS I know, the smallest one is Dec.

SPK also accepts small girl, my girl borns on Oct.

Cheers,

bumblebee

samuellor

Do you how many "outsiders" SPC accept each year into their P1?

How to apply their P1?  I mean what time of the year?

Thanks

bbqueen

samuellor 寫道:
Deat Fatwater,

Nov and Dec of the year, not the year before. They are not graduates from SPK or SPN. They came from the Kindergatens in the Kowloon Tong.

Cheers,

      

聽講沒有人事, 是很難入??? Is that true or not?

Vernique2005

Dear DomanFans:

To be honest, I don't quite know what you mean by "daily immersion method."  Would you please explain further?  I am guessing that the method from SPC would be closer to the "daily immersion method" than SH, if interaction and real life English is what the term refers to.

However, I have to admit that some students from SPC do not just use the reading scheme that the school introduces, as it might take a longer while for young children to get grammar rules through reading alone.  Most of them indeed get extra help from parents/tutors (mainly on grammar/writing).

For a P5 student in both schools, you may expect them to write a story consisting of 4-6 paragraphs.  They should be able to introduce themselves and express their opinions regarding some simple matters (ie: commenting on a book, a movie, a festival, etc).

GiCa

Dear samuellor,
My daughter will be K3 this Sept. Do u know when is the good time to send letter to the school to apply? Thanks