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教育王國 討論區 海外留學 中5/中7去澳洲讀書的分別
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發表於 07-9-8 14:54 |只看該作者
virgokaren:
I agree with your previous comments.  In general, the quality of Australian education is not bad.  Sometimes, like Canada, there are some 'chicken' schools/universities, so must select the schools very carefully.  For the top courses (medicine, law) in Aust, it is not easy to get in.  All of my friends got in these courses were top students in HK from famous schools (DGS etc).  Of course, for some 讀書平平, they can still get into Australian university doing an accounting or computer degree, so people has an impression that it is easy to get in Australian university or the quality is not very high.  This is why Australia is also popular for some students who are 讀書平平.  

To be honest, if 讀書平平, I think the safest way is to do foundation --- because it guarantees you must get in the university, but of course what course you will be doing is another matter, you can do a cheap course (low mark course) even in a well-known university.  I can tell you Year 12 is not easy but it's a growing experience which is worthwhile --- there is not short cut.  Some HK people don't want to have difficulties, so most overseas students choose foundation because it guarantees you must have a place in university. I can say to you: no pain, no gain.  Even though I was a top student since kindergarten, I've also spent a lot of efforts in my year 12 and my whole family was there to support me.  My dad was there to stand by for me, to drive me to the library & to school, my mum was responsible for cooking soups for me.  Australian parents are very caring about their children's education, but they are not nervous like HK parents, they are just caring, giving all their supports, to be with their children during the year 12 year, no matter what the results are, if you know what I mean.

For IB, if you are in HK and prepare to send your daughter/son to Australia doing secondary schooling, what is the point of doing IB there?  The purpose of doing IB is for you to apply university in other countries, e.g. UK or US.  But if you are originated from HK, if you want your daughter/son to go to UK for university, why don't you send her/him to UK doing high school there directly?  There is no privilege doing IB in Aust.  If you want to get in top courses, it all depends on the merits/excellent results, regardless whether you are doing IB or not.  I've some Asian friends doing IB in Australia, but they went to Aust since year 7 and they wanted to study university in US, so they did IB and achieved full marks !  If you really like IB, how about doing IB in HK, then apply university in overseas.         

This is just my thoughts, hope it can assist you.

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發表於 07-9-11 15:45 |只看該作者
請分享我的經驗, 希望有點幫助吧

我的大兒子會考之後, 拿到22分, 可以留在原校(華X書院)升讀中六, 亦能選讀他最喜愛的純數(Pure Maths)科目

但他認為與其多花2年時間去爭取香港的大學學位, 倒不如到澳洲修讀約9個月的Foundation Course, 一番努力之下, 一定可以入讀心儀的大學, 而且英文亦會比在香港讀書好一點

我們同意他的决定, 於是在上年10月到Melbourne讀Foundation Course (Fast Track), 今年6月畢業, 在7月中己在Melbourne Uni 讀Year 1, 比他的同學早了一年入UNi

由於他是17歲才離家, 他有足夠的成熟來處理日常事務, 他住在學校附近的department, 日常購物亦很方便, 所以我們非常放心

至於在Foundation Course時, 有差不多70-80%是本港學生, 其餘亦多是亞洲操英文或普通話人士, 所以没有什麽陌生感, 他在這一年亦感到非常開心

下次再分享我二兒子的IB課程吧

Bye bye

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發表於 07-9-11 18:29 |只看該作者
原文章由 Charlotte_mom 於 07-9-2 14:20 硐表
thanks very very much!!!
我個女雖然得果7歲, 不過好明顯唔怕羞, 好outgoing, so I guess she'll be getting used to a new environment very soon.
但就好似你咁講--我朋友交個女俾親戚, 幾個summer都無事, 一住落 ...


Charlotte_mom,

你的女兒才七歲, 坦白說, 真的是太早去外國讀書了, 除非有你一同陪讀照顧, 就算是多麽外向, 多麽獨立, 仍需要媽媽的關懷, 支持, 照顧和擁抱, 一個擁抱勝過千過長途電話啊

一般女兒都在十歲至十二左右開始發育, 進入青春期, 這是一個脆弱的時期, 無論是身體的發展, 交友的態度都需要明燈指引, 這是我們的責任啊

孩子們的性格每一天都在轉變, 所有人都不能預測十年後的變化, 留孩子在身邊, 直至他們真正明白讀書的重要性時才放手吧

這是我的體驗, 我的三女兒才差不多十歲


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發表於 07-9-11 18:57 |只看該作者
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發表於 07-9-12 14:40 |只看該作者
zxzx
Thanks for your comments。
讀 IB 的原意是想多一條出路,如讀完year 12之後可以到其他國家如美國、英國或芬蘭等地升學,又或者回流香港(in case 經濟突然轉差),但不知道 IB 課程到底和澳洲正常中學課程有何不同?又會否加重學生的負擔?

原則上讀 foundation 是比較 easy 和有保障,但我又擔心姨甥女在香港會考能否拿到佳績?我見有些中五畢業生到頭來也是由 year 11 讀起,這樣好似有點浪費時間和令人氣綏!

你覺得 15歲女孩子,讀 broading school 應該可以應付嗎?
澳洲中學老師會主動幫助海外生嗎?
Adelaide 讀書好嗎?
THX!



原文章由 zxzx 於 07-9-8 14:54 硐表
virgokaren:
I agree with your previous comments.  In general, the quality of Australian education is not bad.  Sometimes, like Canada, there are some 'chicken' schools/universities, so must select the ...
[img align=left]http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/virgokaren/virgokaren_02.gif[/img]

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發表於 07-9-12 22:47 |只看該作者
"但我又擔心姨甥女在香港會考能否拿到佳績?我見有些中五畢業生到頭來也是由 year 11 讀起,這樣好似有點浪費時間和令人氣綏!" --- that's why most of my friends from HK top schools went to Aust after they had finished F4 in HK, esp. if you plan to do Year 11 & 12.  But if you plan to do foundation, then go to Aust after finishing F5.  It doesn't matter whether you do year 11 & 12 or foundation, it only takes 6 years before going to university (unlike HK which takes 7 years).  

"你覺得 15歲女孩子,讀 broading school 應該可以應付嗎?" --- depends on the personality of the girl & their family background.  Some people have maids to serve them in HK, so even in university, they still don't know how to cook, how to even take care of themselves.  If you plan to send your daughter to overseas at the age of 15, how about train her to be independent for 2 years in HK first.  Because if she is used to be spoiled in HK, when she goes to overseas all of the sudden everthing needs to be by herself, very poor !  One of my friends couldn't settle for the 1st year and didn't have periods for that year even her father is a doctor !   
"澳洲中學老師會主動幫助海外生嗎?" --- OK, but need to choose schools carefully, some schools only want money & they are bad (doesn't care students, I heard that for some bad remote co-ed schools, overseas boys & girls sleep together without the teacher's notice).

"Adelaide 讀書好嗎?" --- NO in my opinion, the only good universities are Sydney & Melbourne.  There are a lot of mainlanders in Adelaide because it is quite and need to investments from migrants, so mainlanders can easily go to Adelaide for immigration or for schooling.

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發表於 07-9-13 00:40 |只看該作者
原文章由 redpocket 於 07-9-11 15:45 硐表
請分享我的經驗, 希望有點幫助吧
我的大兒子會考之後, 拿到22分, 可以留在原校(華X書院)升讀中六, 亦能選讀他最喜愛的純數(Pure Maths)科目
但他認為與其多花2年時間去爭取香港的大學學位, 倒不如到澳洲修讀約9個月 ...


這政策是很好,比在香港唸那兩年艱辛的 A-level 要省時和輕鬆得多!
請問你大公子讀緊邊科?
讀 foundation 是否很容易?有人不能升 University 嗎?
[img align=left]http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/virgokaren/virgokaren_02.gif[/img]

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發表於 07-9-14 16:14 |只看該作者
原文章由 virgokaren 於 07-9-13 00:40 硐表


這政策是很好,比在香港唸那兩年艱辛的 A-level 要省時和輕鬆得多!
請問你大公子讀緊邊科?
讀 foundation 是否很容易?有人不能升 University 嗎?


他現在修讀 Civil Engineering

根據大兒子說, 讀Foundation的學生程度分別頗大, 由中五畢業至己修畢中七的也有, 他算是最低程度的其中幾個人

所以要看你自己的讀書態度, 你想考好一點的, 便要拼命的去讀別人已經學會的範圍了,

因為大學的學位並不是保証的, 假如你考不到保証學分 (每科要求不同), 大學未必會給你入讀, 所以有些同學已入讀其他大學, 甚或再讀久一點Foundation.

所以讀 Foundation 之前, 要先決定在大學大概會選擇什麽學科, 然後决定讀那一間Uni的Foundation.

當然, 每一間Uni的 Foundation入學要求都不同, 各取所需而矣

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發表於 07-9-16 15:14 |只看該作者
zxzx

你在澳洲讀中學的經驗,對我幫助很大。
我想問下,澳洲讀 year 11-12 的課程是讀什麼的?會為了考大學而不停做 past paper 嗎?
或是會有很多 project 做?是 group project 還是個人做的呢?
澳洲人點讀英文的呢?他們也著重 grammar 嗎?
你清楚香港的中學會考嗎?你認為澳洲中學和香港中學的課程和學習上有何不同?你喜歡那裡多些?

THX!
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發表於 07-9-16 16:25 |只看該作者
For Aust year 11 & 12, year 11 no worry, only year 12 marks are counted for university.  So year 12 is a hard year !  In my years (many many years ago ), we did individual projects and exam.  Like Maths, we needed to do projects, in HK you only need to go to exam & know how to calculate, but in Aust we had projects with open-ended answers (no set answers, all creative but of course based on maths principles).  Also by doing projects, you know how to write a report.  In HK, you only become an exam machine, you may only know how to write a full report when you are in university.  But I think whether Aust or HK is better really depends on the kids.  If the kids are got used to HK style, then exam machine may be good for them.  Because Australian kids are not good at memorising things as they are not used to, that's why their maths are so bad (very hard for them to learn the 乘數表 by heart).  Every country has their own education system, which is special for their kids.  But in universities, the differences become small.  So if the HK kids are used to exam, may be it would be better if they go to study abroad just for university.  If the kids aren't exam machine, like 優資生, then it's suitable for them to go study abroad earlier.  
My husband did HK 會考, then went to Aust for university, he's very ok.  I went to Aust when I was very young, I'm also ok. Therefore, I think the type of education you want to give to the kids really depends on the kids' characteristics.  Just like you want HK's traditional schools (tops schools) or international schools.  各有所長

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發表於 07-9-16 16:38 |只看該作者
Virgokaren:

I'm just curious, are you preparing to send your daughter/son to Aust for high schools or you are helping your relatives to ask these questions?

Because I've seen someone with your name posted these questions.  You must be a caring mum.  Do you have relatives/friends in Aust?

http://hk.knowledge.yahoo.com/question/?qid=7007061900204

You can give me more info about your daughter/son/relatives, I hope I can help you (note: I'm not agent of the schools ).

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發表於 07-9-17 03:14 |只看該作者
zxzx:
這樣也被你發現了!
我是幫我最疼錫的外甥女揀學校,我們決定會送她去澳洲升學,只是在猶疑去那個 location,讀 high school or foundation,該讓她在香港會考嗎?她是否 ready to study abroad ....etc.
希望你多多幫忙!!!

原文章由 zxzx 於 07-9-16 16:38 硐表
Virgokaren:
I'm just curious, are you preparing to send your daughter/son to Aust for high schools or you are helping your relatives to ask these questions?
Because I've seen someone with your name  ...
[img align=left]http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/virgokaren/virgokaren_02.gif[/img]
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