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JP

Hi,
今晚8點香港電台第4台有直播李傳韻音樂會

llmom

我有個小提琴(大伯小時候拉的)大約25年琴齡，買的時候都要HK$4000(25年前)，現只剩餘一個殼。我想問拿個琴到哪兒重新裝配好呢? Hong Kong Strings or Orfeo Strings or Violmaster ? Please comment. Thanks.  

kaka0814

personally i like Orfeo, but in fact, i just think you should ask a violin player first, to determine whether the violin is ok to repair / worth to repair.

I got a violin which was $2000 for 30 years ago, but now, compairing with buying a new one, it's useless and meaningless to repair.  

llmom

kaka0814 寫道:
personally i like Orfeo, but in fact, i just think you should ask a violin player first, to determine whether the violin is ok to repair / worth to repair.

I got a violin which was $2000 for 30 years ago, but now, compairing with buying a new one, it's useless and meaningless to repair.  

Thanks.

chuiathena

咁多位,今晚我第一次進入這topic 真是有益有建設性.  我是一個小提琴門外漢.兩年前開始先同我小寶寶一齊學拉小提琴(身教嘛)  但我年紀大現在只追得切看ＢＢ琴譜有冇拉錯自已拉吾掂啦.   這topic 我見到多位有经驗之家長.可否借問一聲
(1)小兒手指還有Ｄbaby fat =手指近手掌一段比較肥e.g ...每次拉C 音都跌咗小小去C#,但喺我研究佢Ｄ手指,佢已經好盡力將B 同C 放在一起但喺手指Ｄ肉好似整到佢夾吾到???喺要等佢大Ｄ手指長Ｄ廋Ｄ先得 or 可以練得到?
(2)每次順去都冇問題但G scale 倒轉由Ｅ線去G線時,每過一條線佢Ｄ肥手指就四隻一齊放上去,攪到 C 又變咗C#, F 又變F# .   有冇方法可練到隻二手指(中指)可以活動D.

我對小提琴認識不多,若問得不好請勿見怪.....我盡咗力想點寫得好Ｄ架啦！      謝謝幫忙,希望小Ｂ能刻服此關,我見佢都一樣盡咗力囉夾到Ｄ肥手指都白曬,又走嚟問我點解夾咗手指嗰C 都跌咗少少去C#嗰边             

kaka0814

In fact, Baby fat is good in playing violin (I would wish my finger is a bit fatter.....)

(1) I just wonder if he need a larger size violin?
and in fact, if he stands his fingers good enough, it shouldn't be a problem.

(2) ask him to take extra care when doing the descending scales. Every young students face the same problem. Take longer time and slower speed for one scale. Ask him to note for every pitches, and there shouldn't be any excuse to have a wrong pitch.

Anyway, I am just a bit worry with your words "肥手指都白曬", it shouldn't be that hard and you shouldn't  "press" the strings so hard.

chuiathena

BB 上嗰月由1/8 換咗嗰1/4 , 反而個問題重明顯咗.  我都知佢大力咗Ｄ,Ｄ手指頭按線時喺偏嘅...企唔高嘅....點先講得到佢明........明咗但做嘅時候又喺偏嘅.      朋友比小小支持我啦....講到自已都煩.

kaka0814

insist to ask him keep the finger up and stand on the finger board. NEVER press too hard, and tell him that's useless to keep the pitch correct

Take some time to settle with the new size, the fingers should have to extend larger, not to press harder. Ask your teacher to demo, and get some good VCD / DVD to show him what's the correct way.

chuiathena

今日晚飯前拉半小時,飯後再半小時此終descending scales 時都喺三隻肥手指一齊落..我想問問應用以下那種方法好 :

    (1)descending 時三隻手指一齊落拉完e.g Ａ線嗰D音時將隻二手指由Ｃ同Ｃ#中間嗰位shift 返上C 好 or
   (2)叫佢一隻一隻手指由D去C再去Ｂ......再去Ｄ線個Ａ.  
      今日兩個方法都試過,ＢＢ自已揀(2)  但効果又喺#曬           

kaka0814

應該用方法2

惟有用心控制, 慢慢練, 音準是沒速成法的

chuiathena

我現在對這位小Ｂ只有用  :  忘記背後努力面前:  去另到自已努力D ......冇錯→喺佢拉,不過喺我要努力D.
       
希望我嘅苦心,佢長大後會明白, 也希望佢小學時可以好似你們那些小孩一樣咁叻.  
麻煩請教一吓,有冇D簡單Ｄ聽落去調子輕快Ｄ嘅小提琴CD名可以介紹,我想用嚟做平時家中嘅background music.   
  

SCheng

chuiathena,

每個琴童的父母都是一樣的, 辛苦是免不了的, 但當聽到小朋友拉出動聽的歌仔時, 又有另一番心情.

拉半音不準, 可能是手指的接觸面 / 方向問題.
比方2-3指泊密(3指容易偏高), 3指跟弦線的接觸點應是靠2指的一邊.

chuiathena

請問你的意思是否三手指近二內側,除了二隻手指夾起來,喺咪重要將指頭第一節拗近二手指.....若果我想對了那幺我也有試過,又真喺有Ｄ難度...................就以上問題我也有問小提琴老師但她只說: {佢重細,遲吓啦..大個會好Ｄ}
我就是担心手勢一但錯了,要改重難.
佢四歲開始喺拍斯 學,老師都轉咗三個,,轉到我頭都暈,每個都話先前嗰個有Ｄ教法要改..直到今年轉去Jenny music先找到嗰女老師固定Ｄ.  
          在這比少少位置我去訴一訴  ;;;雖然有好多家長比小朋友好早學樂器,可能為考試,但喺亦有Ｄ小朋友雖然細但亦會愛上自已選擇嘅音樂,點解Ｄ老師硬喺對細嘅小朋友好似吾多認真咁.   仔仔問我點先改到隻手指好Ｄ, 多謝您們為我找答案, 由於我自已吾識但我都會自已用個大琴好慢動作咁做比佢看.   我快４○歲啦!!!!做媽媽難難難   

ykwong

反對！

可以

SCheng

chuiathena,

無錯, 是三手指近二指內側, 3指和2指的指形(泊密之餘)是需要一樣的. 拉琴音準非常重要, 如果音不準, 技術再好也沒用.
你的想法正確, 學琴的起步是非常重要, 壞習慣鞏固了, 要攺非常困難.
小兒學琴初期, 也有買個大琴跟他一起拉的, 但3個月後已跟不上, 只好倍他練琴算了.

chuiathena

現在都晚了,   突發奇想→不如用Ｄ橡根扎住佢.....哈哈以後都吾駛煩..... (講笑咋)    謝謝大家,我會好好地train 佢隻二手指..........今次真喺要望住隻中間手指做人囉

方法(1) 有理 ,方法(2)也可行.                  

sneezy

小兒去年(05) 3月開始學小提琴, 現在是用篠崎2/3 和 4/5 一齊教, 另有 wohlfahrt op.45 和 ABRSM SCALES BOOK 1 , 老師叫仔仔出年(07) 3 月去考 grade 3, 而考試琴書已在學琴的琴行買了, 現想請教各位有經驗的媽媽, 我是否需要買埋隻CD回來聽呢 (因為老師問我有沒有買給仔仔聽, 他說通利有賣)?? 幫助會否多些呢 ?? 因為基本上老師已拉過給仔仔聽, 而且我都有錄影 ?? 隻CD大約需要多少錢呢 ??

因為我對琴完全沒有認識, 而且又第一次考試, 所以唔知還有些什麼需要知或準備呢 ? 請各位仗義幫忙.


    

chuiathena

Although my son is only attend grade 1 in May, but in my case, the CD is very helpful.   During that period the CD is the background music in my house.

kaka0814

wohlfahrt op.45 的練習的確對手指訓練有用, 要多多練習, 單是第一首已經練左我好耐時間, 配合不同弓法時差不多我又要由頭練習過。對於小朋友, 我只覺得要無窮耐性, 和老師一定要要求小朋友改壞習慣。

至於考 grade3的CD, 經驗上講是的確有用, CD共有兩隻, 一隻是小提琴+鋼琴, 通常會在初初練得似樣時 play住咁練, 同 cd 一齊拉, 咁就聽到音準和伴奏部份, 另一隻是鋼琴CD, 後期近考試多點就可以單聽這一隻, 和CD夾伴奏, 夾得多一點才找伴奏上課, 省很多錢和時間。

sneezy

chuiathena, kaka0814,

多謝你們的寶貴意見, 等我去買番隻cd比亞仔聽下先.