要求全面取消小學派位世襲制及宗教計分制！

KK07

After most of the good pastry chefs return to their villages, there is less and less good bakery in the town.  More and more people complaint that they are not treated fairly, they ask 'Why only people in the few villages have the right to take good cakes and pastries, this is totally unfair. As these villages receive money from the government, all of us should have the right to take whatever cakes we like!'

Finally, the Governor called Marx launch a 'Great Forward Bakery Movement' and re-organize the systeem.  Under the new policy, all pastry chefs must do the same cakes, with same shapes, tastes and outlook.  Then, everyone in the country can buy the same quality of cakes......this is a big improvement to the whole society, it brings the best model of 'fairness' to the world.

chu__chu

Good one!

4eyesDad

原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-12-9 10:17 發表
Western countries should allocate students to nearby public schools, what's your view?

Allotting primary public school places based on territory is a well-known and well-used method in many civilized countries. It is another topic and I honestly do not have any strong view about it.

I have lived outside HK for some time and can testify that these civilized countries certainly know what they are doing.

potpot

看後有些家長的留言，不自覺心裏響起幾句歌詞：
在這土地裡不分你我高低，繽紛色彩閃出的美麗，只因它沒有分開每種色彩.....

ANChan59

I support this mechanism.

Can we do it here?

Rickylama

香港這麼細也分這麼多區絕不正常，用抽獎方法更無知，應用公平評估方法去衡量小朋友能力去分配學位。有能者居之。

twobirds

good point! I buy!

karen55407

咁咪變相讀名幼稚園出身，同埋有錢栽培的小朋友佔盡優勢

原帖由 Rickylama 於 11-12-10 11:53 發表
香港這麼細也分這麼多區絕不正常，用抽獎方法更無知，應用公平評估方法去衡量小朋友能力去分配學位。有能者居之。

Rickylama

能力稍低抽入名小學只會拖低此小學的水準，令該校的老師疲於教導他們。
用世襲或宗教關係而入讀的也有能力不足之輩。

4eyesDad

原帖由 Rickylama 於 11-12-10 11:53 發表
香港這麼細也分這麼多區絕不正常，用抽獎方法更無知，應用公平評估方法去衡量小朋友能力去分配學位。有能者居之。

There is probably no need to have undue concern about the number of school districts.

In the UK, for example, a state primary school may use the shortest distance between home and school as the ultimate admission criterion if there is over-subscription to the school. I understand the British have detail rules on how to measure the shortest distance. These rules are known to be objective and fair.

Rickylama

本人反對學校自人收生中大部份為世襲生及教友，多麽不公平，首名子女多5分也不公平。
用校網抽獎也不知所謂。
希望小學收生制度進行大改革。
庸官當道，自求多福。

busy_penny

不要盲目追求公平，世界上根本沒有公平。世襲制、宗教分數等已上相對公平，若果取消，又會衍生其他問題，可能造成更多不公平，或造成家長的照顧負擔。

ANChan59

試下用功能組別........ + 選委 + 動物農莊 ........

Rickylama

建議進行公平的智能評估，再跟選校次序來分配學位。
如是教友便多報同宗教小學。
舊生父母便多訓練小朋友，放父母的母校在第一志願。
兄姊同校便直入。
父母是員工或校董子女也直入。

[ 本帖最後由 Rickylama 於 11-12-11 09:08 編輯 ]

karen55407

[IQ 高就入到名校，唔理你有無AD/HD, IQ 低就註定你入唔到名校。quote]原帖由 Rickylama 於 11-12-11 14:20 發表
建議進行公平的智能評估，再跟選校次序來分配學位。
如是教友便多報同宗教小學。
舊生父母便多訓練小朋友，放母校在第一志願。
兄姊同校便直入。
父母是員工或校董子女也真入。 ... [/quote]

KK07

原帖由 Rickylama 於 11-12-11 14:20 發表
建議進行公平的智能評估，再跟選校次序來分配學位。
如是教友便多報同宗教小學。
舊生父母便多訓練小朋友，放父母的母校在第一志願。
兄姊同校便直入。
父母是員工或校董子女也直入。 ...

You scared me!  Only God has the capability to 進行公平的智能評估 to a child of 5 years old........

4eyesDad

原帖由 busy_penny 於 11-12-11 12:44 發表
...世襲制、宗教分數等已上相對公平....

The shortest distance between home and school is both objective and fair.

"世襲制" is not known in any civilized countries for state primary schools.

ANNAFRIEND

因為太多新移民同胞o係香港生仔, 所以我自己就好贊成保留世襲制及宗教分. 我覺得相同宗教加分係天公地道, 世襲制可以保證學生質素. 名校舊生點都會對子女學業有要求. 如果取消世襲制全面開放, 到時名校好容易比班新移民攻陷, 佢地出生率遠比港童為多. 我自己女女唔係讀甚麼超級名校, 但學校也算有名. 好彩既係我眼見學校今年唔多新移民家長, 只見一兩個. 我想任何一間比較有名的學校都唔願收太多新移民, 但係經抽獎入學校既學生係學校冇得揀. 全面開放對學校質素冇保證, 只有更差.

Rickylama

名校生也只是三十多年前住在名校附近吧，他們是認同教學理念或是教育質素，我想大家也很清楚。
在小學當中，很多好小學也是天主教或基督教，對非信徒不公平，也令一些小朋友被動信教去取五分，連宗教自主權也失去。

4eyesDad

原帖由 ANNAFRIEND 於 11-12-11 18:09 發表
因為太多新移民同胞o係香港生仔, 所以我自己就好贊成保留世襲制及宗教分. 我覺得相同宗教加分係天公地道, 世襲制可以保證學生質素. 名校舊生點都會對子女學業有要求. 如果取消世襲制全面開放, 到時名校好容易比班新 ...

I can understand why HK has very little chance of educating a genuis like Steve Jobs successfully.

To place undue emphasis on inputs at primary one level (the so-called the pursuit of "保證學生質素" at the age of five), HK's public primary schools are undoubtedly well-known for producing robots as outputs, not genuises.