各位媽媽不考慮國際學校的原因

Yeahly_ly

原帖由 mandy_ng207 於 16-05-26 發表
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Sorry there is no education allowance if you join civil service today  ...

2000年6月1日前入職既公務員仲有呀....不過有上限31,xxx....只要係名單入面既直私同國際學校都有呀!

Yeahly_ly

原帖由 hkpapa852 於 16-05-26 發表
公務員既教育津貼, 公積金之類既福利, 好似係2000/2001年後入職既就已經無.

就算有教育津貼, 每月上限好似 ...

yes ar ..2000 年6月1日前入職..上限31,xxx....叫做幫補下都好呀不過見講開咪計下有冇得諗

lui

原帖由 Guaichu 於 16-05-26 發表
Check out on the internet, there is an advertisement of 2016 intake at esf intl kindergarten at tung ...

You are true or you are not. If u are trying to apply ESF year 1 or its primary. If you are not among the list of priority, you have least chance to get in ( except the peak and cwbs).

deco99

I have similar thoughts as you. I would like my kid to try DSS or private local school first. And if it doesn't work out, I will try IS.
The only difference is that I don't target on top LS. I target on new LS which also have relatively carefree environment.

I think it would be easier to go to IS later on as 雙非 stopped and when economy goes bad. Honestly, most IS in HK are not that impressive comparing with schools abroad.

mamaishere

原帖由 MASAYA 於 16-05-25 發表
我接受唔到要由上而下教子女孝順，真正孝順係由內到外表現出黎，一般係身教同關係真正親密先做到，所以我唔 ...

贊同！有家長認為國際學校缺乏中國人傳統文化教育，學生較自我中心不顧別人感受，沒有傳統教育的學生「乖」。但有否想過中國人在讀書時都被「教」得貼貼服服，即所謂「乖」，卻讓大家每天在街上看到他們令人側目的行為是什麼原因？吐痰、打尖插隊、大聲說話、隨街便溺掉垃圾、財大氣粗.... 有這些行為的人都是有被「教」得好嗎？什麼儒家思想教育有用嗎？對生命有尊重嗎？染色雞仔、活抽熊膽汁、拐賣小孩這些行為是那國人做得最兇狠？有時，「被要求乖」並不等於長大後行為一定良好。小時自我中心反而對自己在社會的道德立場更堅定！

poonseelai

原帖由 mamaishere 於 16-05-27 發表
贊同！有家長認為國際學校缺乏中國人傳統文化教育，學生較自我中心不顧別人感受，沒有傳統教育的學生「乖」 ...

題外話, 你以上形容的行為並不是儒家思想教導出來的, 儒家思想是舊事物, 早已被破, 立了什麼新事物而引致這些行為? 近日䫆多討論, 有興趣google 一下

mamaishere

原帖由 poonseelai 於 16-05-27 發表
題外話, 你以上形容的行為並不是儒家思想教導出來的, 儒家思想是舊事物, 早已被破, 立了什麼新事物而引致這 ...

我意思係就算從小讀多少聖賢書道德論並不代思想行為會特別良好，視乎那「乖」是否發自內心抑或只是希望不要受罰。並不是說那是儒家思想教出來，別誤會。

MASAYA

加多個題外話，而家既華人一早將古代先哲思想拋諸腦後，反而我從西方教育看到孔子既「因材施教」同老子既「授人以魚不如授人以漁」，我唔知邊個中國先哲提倡「贏在起跑線」

Jane1983

在「談幼稚園」講乖和純，3-6歲的小朋友係應該咁樣。但小朋友長大d，去到小學，吾應該太要求佢聽晒大人話，叫佢做乜就做乜。小朋友要學習分析事物、有自己想法、建立價值觀，明白乜野應該做，乜野吾得，發展社交......

giegie0506

原帖由 MASAYA 於 16-05-27 發表
本帖最後由 MASAYA 於 16-5-27 07:29 編輯

加多個題外話，而家既華人一早將古代先哲思想拋諸腦後，反而 ...

「贏在起跑線」呢句格言真的害人不淺！

貝珠

原帖由 giegie0506 於 16-05-27 發表
「贏在起跑線」呢句格言真的害人不淺！

睇你點演譯啫。如果用"早教"的concept, 其實冇錯。請Google 早教，並非大家講早d教認字果種早教

ume

torunpoland 發表於 16-5-24 23:37
我當然有研究過主流學校能否做到國際學校的效果。當你見到、聽到主流學校今個星期中默、下個星期英默，再下 ...

唉！香港教育既悲哀！

ume

torunpoland 發表於 16-5-25 10:34
個問題又嚟，入新派直資，又係要谷咗先⋯⋯唔係點入？咁多人報名？

當然明白！所以真係諗到頭爆！

ume

hkpapa852 發表於 16-5-25 16:03
並非每間學校也是一樣, 我兒子就讀傳統官小, 每次攞番D工作紙番屋企, 第二日交番去時已經好似一張擺咗幾十 ...

方間官小咁好？可否PM告知？
我都想找一間校風好，學術氣氛自由啲既LS！但好似好難咁！我亦認同LS的老師一般都沒有IS的老師咁活！

matsushima

giegie0506 發表於 16-5-27 08:14
「贏在起跑線」呢句格言真的害人不淺！

Agreed!

hkpapa852

ume 發表於 16-5-27 09:51
方間官小咁好？可否PM告知？
我都想找一間校風好，學術氣氛自由啲既LS！但好似好難咁！我亦認同LS的老師一 ...

呢間官小其實你都未必接受, 因為佢既教學方式一樣係傳統, 著眼點係成績同操行, 所以都偏向催谷.

不過唔會所有細節都有要求.

想搵D較活既LS小學, 留意吓基督教既學校吧!

天主教學校偏向傳統+嚴謹+催谷, PLK學校就係絕對催谷型, 官校大多都係傳統+偏向催谷

ume

hkpapa852 發表於 16-5-27 09:57
呢間官小其實你都未必接受, 因為佢既教學方式一樣係傳統, 著眼點係成績同操行, 所以都偏向催谷.

不過唔會 ...

謝謝你的見意！
我對你所講的都有同感，所以就算我本身係天主教徒，但如果選LS，我會留意基督教學校。

Guaichu

deco99 發表於 16-5-26 23:44
I have similar thoughts as you. I would like my kid to try DSS or private local school first. And if ...

Yes, I am in total agreement with you. Though may I ask which of those new LS you referred to? I really have no idea.
One thing that you are right is that international schools in HK are not like schools abroad.  If you visit any schools in the UK, I mean decent schools, their set up are totally different. In fact, they are pretty strict, not as "liberal" as the international schools. Students are extremely courteous and well behaved.  We visited some in the UK and were so impressed by the students whereas the international school kids I know in HK and see in HK, excuse me...I think they are more of a spoilt breed. Of course, not all of them are like that, but I think the major reason is that kids who go to international schools in HK are fairly well off, they may have a couple of helpers at home and even chauffeur and parents could be overly protected so compare with the UK schools which unless the family is billionnaire, they won't have such privilege even though they may be of middle class. So this is the other reason why we prefer local schools as we want our kids to mix with people from all walks of life including people with a humble background.  

ume

Guaichu 發表於 16-5-27 10:17
Yes, I am in total agreement with you. Though may I ask which of those new LS you referred to? I rea ...

"we want our kids to mix with people from all walks of life including people with a humble background." <-- 其實這一點都係我考慮LS既原因。
所以LS/IS都有好有唔好！同意之前有媽媽講過，要問問自己的期望，決定那一條路都好，都要接受兩者的不足的地方。

simonwan

想請教一些熟悉國際學校的網友。有些網友說現在香港的國際學校中文科水平比十年前已經好了很多，究竟具體的水平去到什麽程度呢？不計新加坡國際及弘立，那幾家國際學校中文水平最好呢（CIS？耀中？）？
假設由小學第一級就已經就讀於該國際學校，這些學校高中畢業生的中文讀、寫水平如何（我知很多國際學校學生普通話的聽說水平沒問題）？當然是說平均水平，并不是著眼於中文最好的少數學生。

閲讀水平來説，是以下那一級：1. 能完全讀懂香港報紙的副刊；2. 能讀金庸、張愛玲、董橋、白先勇；3. 能讀明清白話小説，四大名著原版，尤其是紅樓夢；4. 能讀簡單文言文。

寫作水平：1. 本地高小學生的水平；2. 能寫一般的公函，不須別人修改；3. 能隨意寫六百字的散文，文筆通順，文法無誤。