Dps vs yw

pckpck

試唔試扣dps好呢？
因為有細妹跟尾，想為細妹而試吓扣dps
但Yw 男仔讀就開心好多，佢自己都鍾意

b3410

mcl203 發表於 20-12-15 09:55
我小朋友嘅KG同學一向係SPCC都係前列生，係真正原校生，小一直上果隻，小學階段，佢父母一直評佢話語境麻 ...

可能家庭，課外，學校之外生活中的語境等等，補充了不足。

mcl203

b3410 發表於 20-12-15 09:18
所以話點解SPCCPS咁神奇。我唔知小學發生咩事，不過觀察到中學。SPCC大部分入英文top set 的是附小同學。而 ...

我小朋友嘅KG同學一向係SPCC都係前列生，係真正原校生，小一直上果隻，小學階段，佢父母一直評佢話語境麻麻，始終講嘅機會少，難以和英小直接比較（並非指漸進英小）。佢哋係有額外係暑假出咗針對方法，只係講緊小學階段～～～

黃大力

英華今年成績咁好，38%入三大，75%入八大，仲未計中一走了咁多叻仔。

相反DBS達四率得58%，仲差過英華，就算達5率都差唔多，純計學術二間男校唔係差好遠。

仲要DPS得十個入DB，其他的連英華未必入到。

kimlam953

b3410 發表於 20-12-15 09:18
所以話點解SPCCPS咁神奇。我唔知小學發生咩事，不過觀察到中學。SPCC大部分入英文top set 的是附小同學。而 ...

可能麻麻地ge會小六搵其他出路... 呢個係我同事講ge...

b3410

kimlam953 發表於 20-12-15 00:52
我同事女正正係讀完spccps話俾我聽佢女英文麻麻，同女拔個啲無得比。所以我一直係forum見人講spccps英文同 ...

所以話點解SPCCPS咁神奇。我唔知小學發生咩事，不過觀察到中學。SPCC大部分入英文top set 的是附小同學。而且有DG同學插班入來，也屬於top student, 不過，英文方面，大概屬於  普通set top level, top set average level.  也就是說，not superior, but comparable.  
不過，我也聽聞DGJS英文syllabus 相對Spccps來講，比較優勝。

kimlam953

honeybunny8 發表於 20-12-8 13:16
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As parents we all want to make informed/educated decisions, so it is helpful to k ...

我同事女正正係讀完spccps話俾我聽佢女英文麻麻，同女拔個啲無得比。所以我一直係forum見人講spccps英文同女拔一樣好時都好迷，係咪我同事女個別事件呢（但佢又話其他同學都係咁）多謝你分享！

amazinggrace13

Lilianyu500 發表於 20-5-5 22:27
dps衹有top 10入到男神校，我反而比較concern 佢哋乘餘嗰D學生會第日去了邊啲中學(始終未必入到top ten).  ...

我有朋友有3個仔讀DPS, 一個入男拔，一個入港華，一個入英皇書院。

反而我有興趣女仔在DPS派邊間？

b3410

honeybunny8 發表於 20-12-8 16:19
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你是家長自然清楚小學教學內容，謝謝你讓我了解到SPCCPS小學的初小階段。可否理解為， ...

SPCCPS的確好神奇，可以栽培出如此優秀的同學，就算去到中學，與其他各校精英一起，也不遜色。希望你小朋友升到高小，可以分享學校如何培育。
不過關於數學，我都係唔贊同。可能你朋友的孩子年齡比較細，需要多些輔導。不過，我自己子女都是讀中文小學，無論在初小階段，還是高小，轉英文數完全不覺得困難。他們參加暑期學術類的summer camp, 也不會覺得困難（不過需要一兩日時間適應）反而升中後/去國際學校之後，有時需要解答中文數學問題，會慢一些，不過適應一段時間也沒有問題。

honeybunny8

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Agree with the Chinglish problem. Have to say I've looked at the homework of the English-medium schools I mentioned and they are well-written, and their teachers, albeit being local HK teachers, tend to have rather good command of spoken English. Again, can't say for all English-medium schools, I'm just talking about the ones I've come across.
For Chinese-medium schools, it depends on whether there are NETs and if the NETs are involved in setting the English curriculum, creating / supervising the creation of English homework, etc.

honeybunny8

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你是家長自然清楚小學教學內容，謝謝你讓我了解到SPCCPS小學的初小階段。可否理解為，最後達到的英文水平，需要通過外補？或者高小轉變方法，從而提高水平？<--- since my kids are still in early primary, I don't have the information on how things will evolve in upper grades. Also not sure if I understand what "最後達到的英文水平" is. One way to look at it is as most local primary schools are Chinese-medium schools, it is not difficult for SPCCPS to stay in the top echelon in terms of English ability, after all they are a good school. Another way to look at it is that SPCCPS students and their parents tend to have high expectations for themselves and they also tend to have the resources to stay competitive.      

不過關於數學，如果要去國際學校或者海外讀書，需要外補a couple of years, 有些不理解。是小學階段，還是中學？<--- from what I heard, need to 外補 a couple of years during 小學階段 to prepare to take the entrance exams for 國際 or 海外 secondary schools. It may not be necessary for English-medium school students because they've been learning everything in English, particularly Math. To SPCCPS students, the Math exam in English could be challenging, the terminology, comprehending word problems, etc...   

993rs

路過答咀...
其實計 local curriculum 英小 vs 中小，呢個都係一個迷思，差別唔覺有幾大，但仔細睇又有。

英小我諗最大既影響係在於英數，系日後考 international school、local S1 直私呢個影響最明顯。中小係欠缺英數 problem solving 既經驗。

單純地作為 language，分別就好輕微。好多中小，尤其女仔都好鍾意英文，自己睇好多書。識得既小朋友當中，上到名校英中，英文科依然係學霸水平，甚至一早已自己諗定日後要去外國讀英文、讀law。

至於 international schools 既英文，同 local schools 比係兩個世界，教法、approach 都好唔同。local school 玩緊 grammar、句子裡捉字虱既時候，IS小朋友拿緊唔到國家既英文accent 來玩，學習文學 appreciation、寫下poem。

講起句子裡捉字虱，另外一個（自己小朋友） encounter 到既問題係師資，唔知關唔關中小事、亦唔知其他學校如何。個人最討厭呢份功課：好多時文法好港式、唔通順、外國人根本就唔會咁寫；句子本身 grammar、vocab 冇問題，但又要夾硬搵兩個   mistakes。個女問完我都唔識答，是旦答左又要改正，改完之後又話出錯題目（可能有家長忍唔住出聲）。唔止一次、唔止一個老師。可能直私會好d掛？不過中學部 DSE英文成績反而係屬 top tier 我又冇野好講。

b3410

73662710 發表於 20-12-8 13:39
You use the top one school in hk as standard for comparison!!!!How many Spcc or Lasalle in HK?
Moreo ...

我只想舉例說明，選校階段，唔需要太過看重英小這個因素。原因前面已經列舉。

b3410

honeybunny8 發表於 20-12-8 13:16
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As parents we all want to make informed/educated decisions, so it is helpful to k ...

你是家長自然清楚小學教學內容，謝謝你讓我了解到SPCCPS小學的初小階段。可否理解為，最後達到的英文水平，需要通過外補？或者高小轉變方法，從而提高水平？

不過關於數學，如果要去國際學校或者海外讀書，需要外補a couple of years, 有些不理解。是小學階段，還是中學？

黃大力

kaboBB 發表於 20-5-5 21:03
一定YW,DPS除了果十個位，其實一D都唔吸引⋯⋯

Exactly

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b3410 發表於 20-12-4 09:57
第一，英文只是小學所學的課程中的一個科目，還有其他很多因素需要考慮，例如其他科目學習情況，師資，課程 ...

You use the top one school in hk as standard for comparison!!!!How many Spcc or Lasalle in HK?
Moreover, their students' good command of Eng is owing to their family education, not from their schools.

honeybunny8

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As parents we all want to make informed/educated decisions, so it is helpful to know, for those who consider English proficiency as high priority for their kids for whatever reason, that students at English-medium schools have better command of and exposure to English than students at Chinese-medium schools. It is not a myth but a fair point when comparing schools of the same caliber.
Since you used SPCCPS as an example, I'd say the school's English teaching is rather easy at the early grades (comparing my kids' homework to those of English-medium schools), but it might get harder during upper grades. Once piece of practical advice I heard from alumni moms, whose children finished SPCCPS and moved on to top international schools for secondary, that as SPCCPS Math's taught in Chinese, students who target international schools or studying overseas should get additional English / English Math tutoring a couple years in advance to prepare for entrance exams.

So, depending on what level of English proficiency the parents want for their kids, there do exist differences between English-medium and Chinese-medium schools, and the differentiation should not be generalized as a myth.

b3410

honeybunny8 發表於 20-12-7 21:20
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From my observations, in addition to DB/DG, St. Paul Convent and Good Hope studen ...

呢幾間都係傳統學校中，英文非常好的學校。不過SPCCPS，唔會差過佢哋喎。大家都係一樣好，點解一定要分邊個更加好呢？

hfnyd

師資好重要，dps 出名太多老辰子，英華老師有愛心

honeybunny8

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From my observations, in addition to DB/DG, St. Paul Convent and Good Hope students also have very strong English language skills. I would imagine other English primary schools including Maryknoll and Marymount would also be strong in English.
To gain proficiency in a language requires much practice/usage, so naturally students at English primary schools would have an advantage. As most of their subjects are taught in English, and assuming the schools have dedicated sufficient resources to create a holistic English language environment, the students would be stronger in English comprehension and writing and speaking.

This is not to say that SPCCPS' English teaching is sub-par. I just don't think it's definitely superior to all other HK local schools other than DB/DG, particularly in lower grades. But the ultra strong Chinese program more than makes up for it. So it's a trade-off.