(11網既家長留意) 2015-2017年度開始直屬學位/聯繫學位既微調

hkpapa852

其實唔知有幾多人有留意, 教育局已修改直屬中學和聯繫中學的保留學額作出微調呢?

新規定係由2015-2017年度起 (既今年9月1日就讀小五的學生), 直屬中學和聯繫中學的保留學額必須為"固定"的85%和25%, 而不是最多可達85%和25% (除非相關合資格小學人數不足, 即B1和B2生不足, 才可另行處理)

可參考以下既教育局文件:
http://www.edb.gov.hk/attachment/tc/edu-system/primary-secondary/applicable-to-primary-secondary/through-train/TT%20Circular_c_App%204.pdf

因為有咗呢個改變, 中西區升中時可能有以下改變:

中西區2012-2014年度升中的統一派位學額:

中學名稱	中學網	性別	統一派位非保留學額	直屬學額	聯繫學額
英皇書院	HK1	男	52	0	10
高主教書院小學部	HK1	男女	6	0	0
聖嘉勒女書院	HK1	女	45	30	0
聖若瑟英文書院	HK1	男	12	0	0
聖類斯中學(小學部)	HK1	男	32	51	0
聖士提反女子中學	HK1	女	18	86	0
英華女學校	HK1	女	76	0	0

中西區於2015-2017年度後估計升中的統一派位學額:

中學名稱	中學網	性別	統一派位非保留學額	直屬學額	聯繫學額
英皇書院	HK1	男	52	0	10
高主教書院小學部	HK1	男女	6	0	0
聖嘉勒女書院	HK1	女	3	72	0
聖若瑟英文書院	HK1	男	12	0	0
聖類斯中學(小學部)	HK1	男	9	74	0
聖士提反女子中學	HK1	女	5	99	0
英華女學校	HK1	女	76	0	0

對有直屬/聯繫中學既小學生係有利既, 因為好似聖類斯, 依家只留咗唔夠統一派位既85%位俾小學, 但2017之後就一定要留足85% (除非小學既B1+B2生都唔夠統一派位既85%位)

但對沒有任何直屬/聯繫小學既學生, 絶對係一個惡夢, 因為可以抽既學額少咗.

點解會叫11網家長留意? 因為呢個微調似乎對11網(中西區)升中既影響最大, 因為目前有三間一線中學係用唔足85%直屬位. 如果佢地用足咗, 咁大多可以抽入呢幾間既機會, 細咗至少3倍

中西區中既聖嘉勒, 聖提女子, 聖類斯都好大機會要大幅增加保留位, 到升中時大家可能只得番KC和YWGS兩間可以揀.

其餘各區大家都要留意下啦!

hkpapa852

iantsang 發表於 15-2-9 11:56
Take it easy, I am not arguing with you.

Let's focus on the three schools you mentioned in your exa ...

Thank you for your explanation.

You are right, the 3 schools I mention may not need to reserved the amount of seats I "guessed", the only uncertain factor is St Clare because they have 3 classes (~100 students) in lower primary school already.

It do affect if all these 3 school increase the number of students in each class.

However, everything just a GUESS.

The other potential effect is, the related secondary school may less willing to accept their related primary school student in the first round - 自行派位.

iantsang

hkpapa852 發表於 15-2-9 08:55
Let me quote the new policy here:
(i) 由二零一五／二零一七年度的中學學位分配辦法開始，直屬／聯繫學 ...

Take it easy, I am not arguing with you.

Let's focus on the three schools you mentioned in your example in Central and Western district.

What I was saying is all three schools have lower total number of Band 1 and 2 students as compared to the number you proposed for their feeder.  So, they won't be allocating so many of them as you were suggesting.  It's just a fact.  So there ought to be a smaller number that those you stated.  That's all!

Have a good day!

mcl203

cyhh 發表於 15-2-9 11:08
我識2個st jo仔都係咁，佢媽咪話佢係邊緣人（係咪我唔知啦），咁佢最後真係入左鄧鏡波，但其中一個因為喺鄧 ...

St. Joe既邊緣人...可能...唔係市場上既邊緣人...係細机會入得番中學果條界

灣仔男/女校學生...上唔番自已中學...理解幾多人係揀鄧鏡波/何東...讀慣齋校~~~

hkpapa852

cyhh 發表於 15-2-9 11:08
我識2個st jo仔都係咁，佢媽咪話佢係邊緣人（係咪我唔知啦），咁佢最後真係入左鄧鏡波，但其中一個因為喺鄧 ...

咁佢可能係B2/B3邊緣人啦!

有幾多B1/B2邊緣人唔去搏直屬位直接去考B2學校? 就算唔搏, 都唔駛攪到要自行去鄧鏡波.... 去聖公會鄧肇堅, 金文泰或者東區B1尾學校先正路, 機會亦唔會低; 咁當然鄧鏡波收既機會一定高好多, 不過玫瑰崗應該仲高

cyhh

原帖由 alanwong238 於 15-02-09 發表
我唔識st jo學生，但如果係邊緣人，無理由會係自行時去考鄧鏡波卦？！因為一中就等於自動放棄抽直屬學位既 ...

我識2個st jo仔都係咁，佢媽咪話佢係邊緣人（係咪我唔知啦），咁佢最後真係入左鄧鏡波，但其中一個因為喺鄧鏡波果年考得好好，之後又插番st jo，依家都高中了。佢媽話當年老師好鼓勵未必升到st jo中學嘅揀鄧鏡波（原因係雙方學校關係良好），但呢一2年係咪咁鼓勵就唔知lu⋯⋯但話說回來，灣仔區唔算多b2中學，感覺上北角、西灣河果邊多d

vego

thanks for sharing. it is very useful

hkpapa852

IloveJJ 發表於 15-2-8 19:16
咁之前又話11網係b1學額多過學生既咩?

11網係b1學額多過學生, 係用一個簡單方法計算: 該學年該校網B1學校總學額:該學年該校網1/3既小六學生人數

當中沒有考慮直屬/聯繫位既比例, 男女比例等關係.

而且出生率不斷上升, 但B1學位不會不斷上升. 今年有足夠B1學額唔代表6年後都有.

2014年小六畢業生, 中西區人數有1473人(唔計國學校), 但同年既小一生(即2007年金豬年出生既), 有1902人(唔計國學校).... 已經多咗400幾.

hkpapa852

iantsang 發表於 15-2-9 08:47
Thanks for sharing information with parents all the time.

However, the new policy doesn't required  ...

Let me quote the new policy here:
(i) 由二零一五／二零一七年度的中學學位分配辦法開始，直屬／聯繫學校在其中一總學額中扣除留級學額和自行分配學位後，須在中學學位分配辦法下的統一派位階段，分別採用其剩餘中一學額固定的85%／25%收取其連繫小學的小六學生。
(ii) 由二零一五／二零一七年度的中學學位分配辦法開始，有特殊情況的直屬學校(例如小六學生的總人數少於中一學位的85%)，在中學學位分配辦法下的統一派位階段收取連繫小學的小六學生時，可選擇保留其剩餘中一學額的85%或一個較小並足以涵蓋所有合資格的連繫小學小六學生的學額數目。

The new policy had stated use the the "中一學額固定的85%／25%" except for condition (ii), so I don't know why you say "the new policy doesn't required the affected schools to FIX the feeder percentage to 85%."?

According to my understanding of Chinese & English, 固定=FIX value.

You say "either 85% or a smaller number of places sufficient to cover all eligible students in P6", it is the same meaning what I stated:

"固定"的85%和25%, 而不是最多可達85%和25% (除非相關合資格小學人數不足, 即B1和B2生不足, 才可另行處理).

If the max reserved place can by the related secondary school is 80, currently the school can have the feasibility to allocated less than 80 no matter how many primary student they have in the related primary school.
However, under the new policy, if the related primary school have 120 student, and the ranking distribution is B1:50, B2:55, B3:15, the secondary school should reserved all 80 seats (bcoz B1+B2=105>80) instead of now they can reserve less than 80 seats (i.e. just reserve 50 seats).

The typical example is 循道中學.

iantsang

hkpapa852 發表於 15-2-6 15:55
其實唔知有幾多人有留意, 教育局已修改直屬中學和聯繫中學的保留學額作出微調呢?

新規定係由2015-2017年度 ...

Thanks for sharing information with parents all the time.

However, the new policy doesn't required the affected schools to FIX the feeder percentage to 85%.  What it stated was that it can be either 85% or a smaller number of places sufficient to cover all eligible students in P6.

So, the affected secondary school have the choice to limit the seats to a smaller number, especially the few you mentioned all have a smaller primary school class size as compared to their feeder secondary school.  That means it will simply be meaningless to hold so many feeder seats when the total class size of their P6 students will be smaller than that.

So I can assure you and all parents that the situation you mentioned will not happen.  The proposed feeder seats have already been submitted to EDB late last year.

Even so, if there are too many feeder seats hold while there are less eligible students, they will still be released to open places.  So, the students in the district will still not be affected.

hkpapa852

cyhh 發表於 15-2-8 23:33
因為好多st jo邊緣人係自行st jo、鄧鏡波、乙1 st jo，乙2 鄧鏡波，所以年年鄧鏡波都收好多st jo仔。但學生 ...

St Jo B2生一早打定輸數諗住自行就搏讀鄧鏡波就真係低佢入啦！

cyhh

因為好多st jo邊緣人係自行st jo、鄧鏡波、乙1 st jo，乙2 鄧鏡波，所以年年鄧鏡波都收好多st jo仔。但學生自己唔會知道係自行入定大抽獎入。

cyhh

原帖由 mcl203 於 15-02-08 發表
抽獎點會有主收某間中學~~~

自行嘛，自行時已經揀左

mcl203

cyhh 發表於 15-2-8 18:38
但鄧鏡波主收st jo仔（不能上st jo中學果d），所以，得番鄧肇堅維多利亞一間咋所以都係天堂與地獄
  ...

抽獎點會有主收某間中學~~~

cyhh

原帖由 hkpapa852 於 15-02-08 發表
灣仔無B2中學？咪講笑啦！較出名既B2學校，男既有鄧鏡波，女既有何東，男女校仲有間維多利亞官立 ...

但鄧鏡波主收st jo仔（不能上st jo中學果d），所以，得番鄧肇堅維多利亞一間咋所以都係天堂與地獄

hkpapa852

IloveJJ 發表於 15-2-8 17:18
我唔係好明，b1生點樣抽唔到b1英中，就去灣仔抽b2呢？佢未抽之前，都唔知自己好唔好彩，抽唔抽到架?



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大路B1學生升中抽獎策略係，放完B1學校，就放1-3間B2學校作保險線，避免派去B3學校。中西區無B2學校，所以只能揀它區得幾個位既B2學校，但因為位太少，唔好彩可能都係要派去B3學校