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我個仔11月, 而家做細B 插班讀緊N1, 9月入K1. 老婆想佢做大B 但係我就唔鍾意.
其實我自已當年經驗, 唔覺得大B細B 對讀書成績有乜影響. 反而最大影響係拍拖!!

我覺得大B男/細B女容易拍拖; 相反就遲拍拖. 所以男仔應該做細B, 防止早戀

; 女仔可以順其自然做細B, 容易找到Mr. Right

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ANChan59 發表於 14-5-5 00:34
次次你都搵得好快，唔該哂！
同意，好多時記者對所謂研究報告，沒有深入看過份報告及瞭解研究方法，取樣，S ...

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回覆 MrBeast 的帖子

Before applying the results of the studies to Hong Kong, we need to pay attention to the following conditions:
1. There is a tendency (or more accurately a practice) of teaching one or even two years ahead of the normal curriculum among local schools
2. The above phenomenon is even more profound in those elite local schools
3. The above phenomenon is not obvious among international schools
4. Availability of (academic) support at home (or after school in general) may have significant effects
5. School culture, support given to those slower learners and whether there is streaming, etc. are all relevant
The above list is, of course, not exhaustive but serves to highlight that factors including local conditions, school choices and family support, etc. should also be considered.

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回覆：晚點入學的孩子比較聰明？

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Bluegene 發表於 14-5-4 21:23
I think such studies could never directly apply to HK. All are country specific studies and some hi ...

次次你都搵得好快，唔該哂！
同意，好多時記者對所謂研究報告，沒有深入看過份報告及瞭解研究方法，取樣，Scope, limitations and biases，好多都不能將外國結果硬套在香港的實際情況。

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MrBeast 發表於 14-5-4 17:13
Thx. Took a quick glance on the first few pages on the swedish paper. Their school age starts at 7 ...

I think such studies could never directly apply to HK. All are country specific studies and some hidden factors may not be visible to us.

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回覆：晚點入學的孩子比較聰明？

但其實現實情況係，現時選擇大B细B不是父母關呼孩子聰明與否，大家都知大到咁上吓，無大细B之分，而是一些被譽為名校的收取學生門檻，大多數比例是偏向大B，(唔排除有細B，但相對的確較少)，父母才會選擇為子女寧可大B選這條路，不是在於晚點入學聰明與否，而是入名幼及名小的機會上是較大。

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Thx. Took a quick glance on the first few pages on the swedish paper. Their school age starts at 7 ...

Of course not.

We need to refer the original papers.

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Bluegene 發表於 14-5-4 12:09
Research reports mentioned in the New Yorker's article:

Too Young to Leave the Nest: The Effects of ...

Thx. Took a quick glance on the first few pages on the swedish paper. Their school age starts at 7. hard to conclude if the findings apply to hk or not.

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Bluegene 發表於 14-5-4 12:09
Research reports mentioned in the New Yorker's article:

Too Young to Leave the Nest: The Effects of ...

Thanks.

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Research reports mentioned in the New Yorker's article:

Too Young to Leave the Nest: The Effects of School Starting Age
http://www.nber.org/papers/w13969

The eﬀect of school starting age on school and labor market performance
http://people.su.se/~pfred/Papers/SchageEJ.pdf

The Lengthening of Childhood
http://www.nber.org/papers/w14124

First in the Class? Age and the Education Production Function
http://www.nber.org/papers/w13663

Classroom Grade Composition and Pupil Achievement
http://ideas.repec.org/p/iza/izadps/dp5922.html

The effects of quarter of birth on academic outcomes at the elementary school level
http://www.sciencedirect.com/sci ... i/S0272775710001469

The younger, the better? Age-related differences in academic performance at university
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00148-011-0379-3

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從來沒有認真看待這些研究報告

YOUNGEST KID, SMARTEST KID?

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我很認同毅力決定命運。任你怎樣聰明絕頂，沒有毅力去完成都是 ...

同意。
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