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星期日聽完家長講座,完來間學校由小一至小二要學5種語言,夠竟真唔真???又聽講上年小一O個班走左2X人,咁係咪代表間學校有問題??間學校比我感覺好商業,因為佢地不停強調要令小朋友成為英語精英, 目的將來投入社會工作可以搵更多, 佢地又不斷踩低其他學校, 其他教授, 講佢地英文唔掂, 又不停抬高自己, 另外記得有家長提問,如果到時小朋友真係跟唔上,因為實在學太多語言,咁學校會點做, 某副校長話會利用小息時間幫小朋友,嘩,好得人驚,連小息時間都唔放過,真係好想知道間學校夠竟D小朋友讀得開心嗎?家長又辛唔辛苦呢?

monkeydad

G-Ma and other SMC parents,

P1 is not easy even.  What the school teaches in P1 so far is very "life" and I find my boy learns quite a lot of vocabulary in the class.  He knows the pronounciation, meaning and application but not yet able to dictate.

G-Ma

英文程度就一定係高過出面, 整體而言我覺得p.2 係唔只外面p.3程度, 因為sm學生係數學同gs及其他學科都學到好多英文生字, 有d字我自己都要查字典.

一家三口

原帖由 idylo 於 08-9-26 12:01 發表
我個人覺得P.2英文已經係P.3程度, 但見好多同學都 pick up 到.

idylo,

非常同意呀. 昨晚同囡囡一齊努力完成個"hero story" 呀.

idylo

我個人覺得P.2英文已經係P.3程度, 但見好多同學都 pick up 到.

原帖由 G-Ma 於 08-9-26 10:57 發表
hi sara,

其實學校唔係唔執字體, 不過唔係小一, 小二執到咁嚴, 等小朋友慢慢適應.  今年小三, 明顯見到老師係嚴咗d, 寫得唔整齊就唔會有A+.

我D朋友既仔女, 小學已經要補習, 係SM我就覺得暫時無咁既需要, 小朋友自 ...

G-Ma

hi sara,

其實學校唔係唔執字體, 不過唔係小一, 小二執到咁嚴, 等小朋友慢慢適應.  今年小三, 明顯見到老師係嚴咗d, 寫得唔整齊就唔會有A+.

我D朋友既仔女, 小學已經要補習, 係SM我就覺得暫時無咁既需要, 小朋友自己都PICK UP 到, 而程度我又覺得同外面學校差不多.

原帖由 sara 於 08-9-26 09:16 發表
g-ma,
其實我地好多謝你就真!因為你俾到好大信心大家,讀sm既學生真係好開心!
我覺得呢間學校好適合我&我個女! 我個女寫字字體&姿勢唔好,如果去到一般學校,默書一定拿唔到滿分,因為普通學校會在寫字方面捉得好嚴!我有 ...

sara

g-ma,
其實我地好多謝你就真!因為你俾到好大信心大家,讀sm既學生真係好開心!
我覺得呢間學校好適合我&我個女! 我個女寫字字體&姿勢唔好,如果去到一般學校,默書一定拿唔到滿分,因為普通學校會在寫字方面捉得好嚴!我有朋友個女讀傳統一條龍名校,就試過因為poor handwriting而被扣15分,令佢自信受損!
但如果一個好嚴厲既家長去到sm,或者佢會覺得功課太少,課外活動太多,老師'執"字體"執"得唔夠嚴!所以一家要揀一間適合自己&仔女既學校!
坦白講,雖然佢地中學部收生質素一般(因為唔係小學直上那批),但至少俾我睇到學生在校外既儀容係好好!無見過有男學生d衫唔整齊,亦無見過女學生唔扎頭髮.我自己在學校工作,覺得佢地應該在中學生儀表上花過心思的!

G-Ma

好高興係呢個forum有愈來愈多既sm家長加入, 最開心係大家對教育既要求都好近似.  我自己睇返囡囡既學習進度同程度, 佢個人既發展, 同佢所需要投放既時間, 我就更加覺得自己當初選擇好正確.  係佢呢兩年既學習過程當中, 我地既磨擦好少, 佢pick up得好好, 自己亦好有自信, 最重要係囡囡仲有時間去培養其他興趣, 做完功課仲有時間睇電視, 玩玩具, 畫下畫, 睇下書.  就算病都嘈住要返學.  今年小三, 明顯老師既要求係高左, 而囡囡亦自動自覺自己跟貼老師要求, 見到佢咁自覺, 我覺得已經好足夠, 有左呢份自覺, 對佢將來漫長既學習路程會有好大幫助.

[ 本帖最後由 G-Ma 於 08-9-26 10:33 編輯 ]

CHIULHJ

Hi Monkeydad,

很感謝你這些詳盡的解答，同時，亦感謝 catcatmon and HKQQbaby 的分享。

St Margaret 擁有很多如你們這般高質素的家長，確實對我為囝囝選擇 SM 大大加強信心；明天是他的 1st interview，希望幸運之神會眷顧他，能順利入讀SM。

Once again, thank you for your valuable sharing.

原帖由 monkeydad 於 08-9-24 15:56 發表
Hi CHIULHJ,

I didn't attend this year's briefing.  From the one I attened last year (quite similar to what you commented), to be frank, I got bored and shared some of your thoughts.

We changed our m ...

WD40

Dear AaronMa,

If yr kid didn't like copying, writing, dictating..etc, forgive me to say that then both TSL & SMC may not your cup of tea.  

As per my kid's experience in P.1 in SMC, he needs to write, to copy and to dictate.  The standard and requirement at the begining seems not so high, but fr P.2 onwards, students need to work hard to meet the up-grading requirement.

So, you can consider CKY / International school which really on PROJECT & READING basis to educate students.

I'm not discouraging you but you must realize what's yr kid's strength and then find a suitable school to build it up.  Then it's the best way for both u and yr kid.

Good luck

原帖由 AaronMa 於 08-9-24 20:08 發表
Monkeydad,

Thank you again for your sharing.  I'm not comparing those that are one grade up, but I would hope that the standard of the other subjects is what it should be for that grade.

For my boy, ...

WD40

係度真係要多謝G-ma 同其他parents, 因舊年選校時，佢地俾左好多寶貴意見。

而我初初都對SMC抱有存疑心態，但到2nd in 時，兩位老師 ge 態度，真係令我好有信心。再加上今年開學至今，小兒ge學習態度同進步，更鐵定我地ge decision.

如果家長對SMC有信心，相信好快會決定到。反之常抱有challenge 心態，倒不如選擇其他他們認為較好ge學校！

小孩ge成長，不但學校、老師有責，家長ge心態、期望、信任、同支持都好重要。

不過，我好開心，因為從而反映到SMC d 家長質素好高，大家都好helpful同nice。
大家努力，希望我地ge小朋友有更美好ge 將來。

WD40  

原帖由 G-Ma 於 08-9-24 20:37 發表
中文同數學科我自己同外面一般官津小學比較過, 大家既課程係一樣(除左讀高一級既學校), 都係用果幾家出版社.  數學舊年換左新出版社, 程度都係同出面一樣.

英文程度就一定會高過出面學校, 我囡囡讀小一, 小二既時候 ...

monkeydad

AaronMa,

My boy is in P1.  Like your boy, he dislikes writing, copying and pure memorizing.

I shared the thoughts of G-Ma - I want my boy to love learning in the early stage (otherwise both he and me will find it very painful) and possess high proficiency in both English and Chinese.

SMC has less workhome comparing to other local schools including TSL.  He can have more time to do reading.  This also allows us more time for family / other non-academic activities which can add exposure to the kids, not just dictation, test and exam.  If you find your kid can take more, you can give him additional homework.  You can totally control the load.

Good luck to your 2nd interview.

G-Ma

中文同數學科我自己同外面一般官津小學比較過, 大家既課程係一樣(除左讀高一級既學校), 都係用果幾家出版社.  數學舊年換左新出版社, 程度都係同出面一樣.

英文程度就一定會高過出面學校, 我囡囡讀小一, 小二既時候已經可以指出一個外面學校讀小六既朋友姐姐串錯好多字.

學習分好多階段, 我自己認為係初小, 首先係要小朋友愛上學習, 唔好一開始就讀到叫苦連天, 嚇怕左佢地, 另外就係先打好語言基礎, 而呢點sm係好符合我既要求.  而去到高小, sm係會轉返去傳統教學, 課程亦會加深, 小五已經教緊中學既課程.  

當然每個家長要求唔同, 有d認為no pain no gain, 要爭取每一分鐘學多一d, 學快一d, 有d就好似我地sm家長咁, 希望小朋友可以有個愉快既學習環境, 前面教慢d無所謂, 無話邊個對, 邊個錯, 視乎你想要邊一種.

AaronMa

Monkeydad,

Thank you again for your sharing.  I'm not comparing those that are one grade up, but I would hope that the standard of the other subjects is what it should be for that grade.

For my boy, he's been studying in the trilingual environment in the last few years so I want him to keep that up.  He dislikes writing / copying and you just cannot make him remember the words through repetitive writing.  However, if you ask him to learn by doing project or through games, he can pick up much better.  So I reckon SMC / TSL would be the type of schools that he should attend.  I also agree that kids should enjoy a happy school life.  

That said, I wouldn't go for an international school for its lower Chinese / Maths standard, and lax discipline.  

Which grade is your boy in?  My boy (indeed my family) will be attending the 2nd interview this Sat. and I hope he will be admitted for P1 next year.

monkeydad

AaronMa,

The school has managed to be balanced on all subjects, not just English.  The number of lessons in P1 for Chinese, Maths and General Studies is similar to that of English.  Its emphasis on English is in context of using English to teach General Studies, Maths, Religious, PE ...  Students all learn the substance of each subject but are all taught in English.

Up to this moment, I find from my boy the workload in Chinese and Maths are much more than English (just one worksheet and dictation on 10 words so far).

In response to your query on whether other subjects are in par with other local schools, there is no strict answer.  It depends on which school you are benchmarking to.  I would say the syllabus is in line with that outlined by the Education Bureau.  However, I understand some schools are more advanced in the academic aspect - DBS / DGS have been using P2 materials in teaching P1.  Good Hope is in general 1+ term in advance.

It depends very much on the calibre of the kids to decide which type of school should be chosen.  

SMC provides me with the confidence that my boy can smoothly "transit" from kinder to primary.  He likes going to school very much and is happy to learn - these are what I am looking for.  

原帖由 AaronMa 於 08-9-24 16:28   發表
Hi monkeydad,

It's indeed a very thorough description of the school characteristics.  I'm sure that the school puts great effort in creating a good English learning environment for the children.  But ...

AaronMa

其實都預左係差D，不過想了解下差幾遠嗟...

去過TSL Open Day, 見D學生in charge既subject rooms, 有聲有色，好似學術知識唔錯o甘，唔知SM既Open Day又如何呢？

SM家長，你地覺得仔女既學科水平可以嗎？使唔使補下中＆數呢？

catcatmom

這些是真正英小面對問題, 難以攞到平衡, 就算係女拔既中文成績都係差過英文, 要自行取舍.有好多私小中、英、數成績都好平均, 但係佢地英文主要又係本地老師教...

原帖由 AaronMa 於 08-9-24 16:28 發表
Hi monkeydad,

It's indeed a very thorough description of the school characteristics.  I'm sure that the school puts great effort in creating a good English learning environment for the children.  But ...

catcatmom

HKQQbaby

同意! SMC既中國舞係學界經常攞獎,有文有武. 運動方面都很出色, 一齊係視學報告有寫, 自己上網搵吓打"key words"就有. 我聽過幾間小一說明會, 有多校長係高眼手低, 不設實際.  

原帖由 HKQQbaby 於 08-9-24 16:26 發表
CHIULHJ:

"我跟樓主一樣感受，小一簡介會給我商業及功利的味道，他們太偏重強調語言能力的重要，其實，教育包括很廣的範疇，提昇語言能力只是其中一項，"

很奇怪上述感受對不同人有不同看法: 於我而言,學校不是商業及功利, 而 ...

AaronMa

Hi monkeydad,

It's indeed a very thorough description of the school characteristics.  I'm sure that the school puts great effort in creating a good English learning environment for the children.  But just one thing - do they focus too much on the language?  What's the standard of Maths / Chinese / General Studies??  Are these subjects on par with the other local schools??

Thanks in advance for your sharing.

HKQQbaby

CHIULHJ:

"我跟樓主一樣感受，小一簡介會給我商業及功利的味道，他們太偏重強調語言能力的重要，其實，教育包括很廣的範疇，提昇語言能力只是其中一項，"

很奇怪上述感受對不同人有不同看法: 於我而言,學校不是商業及功利, 而是"實在".

實際上學校並不只看重語言能力,其他課外活動亦有要求, 且他是教會學校,校規一樣很嚴.當然"語言能力"是該校賣點,且投放資源較多. 如學生在語言方面較弱(英文&普通話), 學起來會較吃力. 所以選學校需量力而為.
始終父母才最了解自己小孩
(以上只是我個人意見,歡迎互相交流心得)

原帖由 CHIULHJ 於 08-9-24 13:57 發表
Hi Monkeydad,

首先，很感謝你, G-Ma, 一家三口, YoYoCheungMa...等一直熱心回答家長門對 St Margaret 存有的所有問題。

我跟樓主一樣感受，小一簡介會給我商業及功利的味道，他們太偏重強調語言能力的重要，其實，教育包括 ...