(叩門)港島民生vs聖馬可

hkpapa852

ANChan59 發表於 17-8-6 12:27
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Just for discussion.

Base on the statistic those MS provided, I believe most of the MS students only attended DSE with 2 electives.
Base on the minimum requirements to obtained an UGC-degree in recent years:  minimum 20 marks for 5 subjects, performance of 3 core subjects of MS students need to take into consideration. Therefore, MS may not have a better % when compare with St Marks because their core subjects are relatively weak.

On the other hand, 4+ performance is only a partial view to justice a the academic performance of a school. It is true that MS students have a better 4+ % when compare with St Marks, but I doubt the % of 5+ will not be the same picture.

I do appreciate the work MS done for the students, it is because the intake of student level (the banding) are relatively weaker when compare with St Marks, but MS can lift up the student to perform good in most of the electives.

If my kid is a B1C student, I will happy to let him goto MS if he/she desire.

bluestar3000

王家爸爸 發表於 17-8-5 19:10
呢個真係正常現象，所以分析時需要考慮呢個因素。有啲學校只准學生揀兩科，有啲學校准許學生揀三科加M1/M2 ...

我識得有位中學老師，佢真係要成績差的學生drop選修科（校長落order），所以我揀中學唔太睇選修科盤數係點，只睇主科成績，因為主科drop唔到嘛！所以我覺得聖馬可有實力多D。如有冒犯大家，多多見諒。

ANChan59

王家爸爸 發表於 17-8-6 22:49
Not really.  Because every St. Mark's student takes more elective subjects, they have higher chance  ...

From the table, the % of 4+ is higher than St Mark, more electives not necessary higher chance.
Am I correct?

王家爸爸

ANChan59 發表於 17-8-6 12:27
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Just for discussion.

Not really.  Because every St. Mark's student takes more elective subjects, they have higher chance to get higher best 5 scores.

王家爸爸

MMVV 發表於 17-8-5 23:10
聖馬可始终傳統歴史長好多！以前校舍在筲箕灣尾尾。

兩校差別唔大，但係其實英文同通識成績都有啲啲差距。
http://www.imsc.edu.hk/pages/hkdse.html

http://www.stmarks.edu.hk/sms2/index.php/academic/academic-results/10-academic-results/594-hkdse-2017

王家爸爸

ANChan59 發表於 17-8-6 12:34
I am just opposite, because I don't like the secondary school stopped the through train years back.  ...

I would say the two schools are equally good.  But for those who love writing and debate, St. Mark's School is better.

elbar

baldhead 發表於 17-8-2 21:58
但今年民生DSE成績好好喎!

九龍城區黃笏南這一兩年開始好似港島民生當年受惠於新校舍喺自行和派位受歡迎程度開始上升

ANChan59

王家爸爸 發表於 17-8-5 21:28
我覺得聖馬可同港島民生差別唔大，但係個人比較鍾意聖馬可。純粹係個人比較鍾意睇辯論比賽。 ...

I am just opposite, because I don't like the secondary school stopped the through train years back. It's not the correct education philosophy. That's exactly parents prefer nowadays (Relatively better public examination results) , how about the primary division students and parents?

We didn't put St Mark in Mark Six list. That's my position.


Declare: I picked MS instead.

ANChan59

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Just for discussion.


Now, after 33222, then most programs are considered best of 5, if we trust Game Theory and weighting (English, Maths and preferred subjects) , MS will be equal or slightly better than St Mark in University Admission from 2017 onward.
So historical data can be misleading for school selection .

王家爸爸

MMVV 發表於 17-8-5 23:10
聖馬可始终傳統歴史長好多！以前校舍在筲箕灣尾尾。

最早係中西區既己連拿利。

MMVV

王家爸爸 發表於 17-8-5 21:28
我覺得聖馬可同港島民生差別唔大，但係個人比較鍾意聖馬可。純粹係個人比較鍾意睇辯論比賽。 ...

聖馬可始终傳統歴史長好多！以前校舍在筲箕灣尾尾。

王家爸爸

mama_papa 發表於 17-8-5 22:31
"王家爸爸":
請問正常現象是指甚麼？我真係睇唔出。

整靚盤數

mama_papa

hkpapa852 發表於 17-8-5 18:27
睇多D唔同學校既校務報告，就知呢個係正常現象。

"王家爸爸":
請問正常現象是指甚麼？我真係睇唔出。

"我估/或者唔係"你是指民生整靚了盤數。

王家爸爸

mrs.lo 發表於 17-8-5 20:43
想請教一下王家爸爸& hkpapa852，全面來體聖馬可好啲定港島民生好啲呢？

我覺得聖馬可同港島民生差別唔大，但係個人比較鍾意聖馬可。純粹係個人比較鍾意睇辯論比賽。

mrs.lo

想請教一下王家爸爸& hkpapa852，全面來體聖馬可好啲定港島民生好啲呢？

王家爸爸

mama_papa 發表於 17-8-5 13:07
點解選修科D選修學生數字咁少？最多那科BAFS得47，約班半；M2得20，完全冇M1。 ...

呢個真係正常現象，所以分析時需要考慮呢個因素。有啲學校只准學生揀兩科，有啲學校准許學生揀三科加M1/M2。有啲學校唔會強迫學生drop科，但係有啲會（想做靚條數），所以除咗睇成績外，都需要睇人數。

hkpapa852

mama_papa 發表於 17-8-5 13:07
點解選修科D選修學生數字咁少？最多那科BAFS得47，約班半；M2得20，完全冇M1。 ...

睇多D唔同學校既校務報告，就知呢個係正常現象。

SingMom

mama_papa 發表於 17-8-5 13:07
點解選修科D選修學生數字咁少？最多那科BAFS得47，約班半；M2得20，完全冇M1。 ...

恭喜你, 你突破盲點.

mamee

mama_papa 發表於 17-8-5 13:07
點解選修科D選修學生數字咁少？最多那科BAFS得47，約班半；M2得20，完全冇M1。 ...

因為，其實民生選科晤算好fix死，但大致上文科生只可以選2x, 因為都無得揀

greenapple1093

mama_papa 發表於 17-8-5 13:07
點解選修科D選修學生數字咁少？最多那科BAFS得47，約班半；M2得20，完全冇M1。 ...

應該有下列原因:

(1) 大環境問題，那幾年升中時，東區升中人數每年減少。
(2) 因為循環班級制，2017考人數比2016年少。2016年考DSE 有5班，153人。到2017年有4班，共139人。


2016 DSE

Subject	No. Entered	Percentage of Level 4+	Percentage of Level 2+
English Language	153	71.9%	100%
Mathematics Compulsory Part	153	85.6%	99.3%
中國語文	153	43.8%	98.7%
通識教育	153	43.1%	98.7%
Chemistry	56	71.4%	96.4%
Physics	51	86.0%	100%
Biology	43	83.7%	100%
History	43	81.4%	100%
中國歷史	43	62.2%	100%
Business, Accounting & Financial Studies	37	94.6%	100%
Geography	30	70.0%	100%
Economics	24	70.8%	95.8%
Mathematics M2	11	90.9%	100%
中國文學	7	57.1%	100%
視覺藝術	3	66.7%	100%

(3) 有部份考生升中五或中六時，自願或被學校退修選修科。

學校公佈早年DSE 成績時 (2012, 2013) 都有M1，後來不知甚麼原因，只開M2，就不得而知了。