RTHK 19/Feb 鏗鏘集 - 國際學校誰讀?

flashingcat

回復 madscientist 的帖子

Not at all.  JIS international section, japanese kid will not have an advanage, there is only one class per grade, meaning 22 kids in reception and 25 kids from P1.  Their priority is: Pure foreigners, Mixed then Japanese.  As more and more foreigners are living in MOS area now, this year in the reception class, they accepted almost all foreigners, only one japanese kid (his daddy is working for JIS japanese section).  Speaking of JIS Japanese section, yes, japanese can always join as long as you have a japan passport.   

Most foreigners are living on Island or around kowloon station, their class starts at 7:50am, even my friend need to send his daughter on the school bus before 7, speaking like 6:30am from hunghom area.

Mighty

Anyone, regardless nationalities, can go to JIS if there are vacancies.  As far as I know there is a waiting list too.  It is in Tai Po and most of the expats live in Hong Kong Island.  They cant send their kids there, can they?

FattyDaddy

nintendo 發表於 12-2-20 16:49
I never said anything about unfair practices.
I was just trying to say it was unfair for you to say the kid did not get a place at ESF because of her ability. ...

OK, the foreign kid competed without any disadvantages among local kids and failed, fair and square, and lets leave it at that.

There are many possible reasons for not getting an interview besides simply having bad luck in a random draw, may be the kid was a bully in kindergarten. Whatever the reason, your guess is as good as mine  {:1_1:}

nintendo

You have twisted what I said.
I never said anything about unfair practices.
I was just trying to say it was unfair for you to say the kid did not get a place at ESF because of her ability.
I do not see the mother blaming the other parent but just venting.
I would say that if the chance to interview was by random draw, anyonw that did not get a chance would feel bad.
But, well, never mind. Not exactly my business so may be I should have shut up.

FattyDaddy

nintendo 發表於 12-2-20 15:50
The Cat system oes not put expat in any advantageous position.
Anyone can be a Cat One including 100 ...

Cat One has priority over Cat Two, and most local kids are Cat Two.

It is true that some local kids are Cat One. There are at least 1 million Hongkongers who have foreign citizenship, so it is not unusual for them to bring up their kids as Cat One, but then it would be one foreign citizen competing with another foreign citizen on equal grounds.

The point I'm trying to make is there are no unfair practices, and a foreigner putting the blame on "that Chinese couple next door" is just plain rude and arrogant.

nintendo

vinvillalee 發表於 12-2-20 14:53
再者我都唔明班强國人，其實國內有國際學校，點解一定要在香港讀？

I do not see that many mainland children in international schools. As far as I know, only YX and IXX are known to have taken more children with mainland connections.
The percentage of mainland children in other international schools are still quite low. So I do not see them as a main group competiting for places.

nintendo

FattyDaddy 發表於 12-2-20 15:14

If a foreign kid fails to gain admission to an international school despite the advantages and priorities which he/she already enjoys, then the parent ought to seriously examine the ability of the child, instead of trying to blame it on "the Chinese couple next door" like that British woman in the programme.

The Cat system oes not put expat in any advantageous position.
Anyone can be a Cat One including 100% local family.

The woman said that her kid was not even offered a chance to interview.
I think this year a lot of parents said that there are no interview for even Cat One.
So it is not the issue of the ability of the child.

ANChan59

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In mainland, most well off people's money are questionable..... If possible, send their family out of mainland, if case anything happen, the rest are safe in HK with sufficient cash..... Why HK? same time zone, easy to travel during week end to meet the family in HK....
Not so rich will opt for "雙非".......

FattyDaddy

oooray 發表於 12-2-20 11:28
政府電台唔敢掂個重點:
本地制度點解咁失敗?
點解唔訪問吓d家長點解政府/津貼唔使$都唔去讀?

I agree, the emphasis should not be placed on why some foreigners find it difficult to send their kids to international schools, it should explore why local parents are also eager to do the same, but of course RTHK won't dare to open that can of worms.

In any case, those foreign kids are NOT disadvantaged when competing with local kids for places in international schools, quite the contrary, they have advantages over local kids in that many international schools give them priority. The programme tries to suggest that foreign kids are unfairly displaced by local kids, which is not true at all.

If a foreign kid fails to gain admission to an international school despite the advantages and priorities which he/she already enjoys, then the parent ought to seriously examine the ability of the child, instead of trying to blame it on "the Chinese couple next door" like that British woman in the programme.

vinvillalee

我諗佢地都係報ESF 的學校。因為唔需買債券。其實大部份外資公司都很少幫外籍僱員的子女俾埋債券費用，除非好高層la! 再者我都唔明班强國人，其實國內有國際學校，點解一定要在香港讀？

ANChan59

oooray 發表於 12-2-20 11:28
政府電台唔敢掂個重點:
本地制度點解咁失敗?
點解唔訪問吓d家長點解政府/津貼唔使$都唔去讀?

If my memory is correct, RTHK did it before for local schools.

judymama

原帖由 crystalpui 於 12-02-20 發表
我都唔想一個月俾幾千蚊學費
我都好想個女用學卷, 12年免費教育
但,不得我不放棄

So am I, I want my boy has a happy childhood

bbdmami

I agree to your comments completely.

crystalpui

我都唔想一個月俾幾千蚊學費
我都好想個女用學卷, 12年免費教育
但,不得我不放棄
唔係名校
功課都唔見會少
壓力一樣咁大....
政府可以幫下我嗎
我都好想生多一個,.,......

Mighty

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Well Hong Kong Education system is long established but it has been changing and the whole system is going downhill.  RC is not a complete 'new' school.  It had its history before it is RC today.  

bbdmami

What a pity that parents has chosen to trust the new international schools, those like RC that has only established for a few years, than to trust the HK education system.

bbirene

yes I think they are very poor but they are already in cat 1 who has higher priority in the interview chance.  Those in cat 2 and paid 2-year school fees in ESF kindergarten couldn't get the interview chance are more poorer than them.  

oooray

政府電台唔敢掂個重點:
本地制度點解咁失敗?
點解唔訪問吓d家長點解政府/津貼唔使$都唔去讀?
點解唔訪問吓陳維安身為負責教育o既高級官員點解唔身體力行叫自己d小朋友支持吓local school?
但我諗就算導演有GUTS呢d主題係唔會出度街...