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除中學文憑試外，不少港生亦透過IB（International Baccalaureate，國際文憑）試爭取入大學。

根據12間學校提供的IB成績計算，本港今年最少出產15名狀元，當中以首次應戰IB試的拔萃男書院最標青，狀元比率和學生平均分，均冠絕所有學校。

港生整體表現亦優秀，平均分達34.8分（滿分為45分），高於全球平均水平。

現時本港約有25間學校提供IB文憑課程，包括國際、私立和直資名校，當中約17間因開辦課程滿兩年，已有學生應考IB試。

男拔首應試 平均分達38分

根據IB機構向本報提供的資料，以持香港護照學生或永久居民計算，今年5月份的考試共出產10名「地道」香港狀元，狀元比率達1.6%，高於全球平均。

然而，尚有個別在港讀書的外籍學生奪得滿分，根據本報所獲、12間本港學校的應屆IB成績，今年香港最少出產了15名狀元。

「地道」港生整體表現理想，平均分達34.8，較全球平均分高出5分；考獲40分或以上的尖子比率亦達23%，遠超全球平均比率的6.4%。

根據本港IB學校提供的資料，首次出產IB考生、僅33人報考的拔萃男書院，成為後起之秀，平均分達38分，躋身眾校之冠，該校亦誕生一名45分滿分狀元，狀元比率同樣冠絕各校。

男拔發言人表示，校方決定開辦IB時，曾作長時間研究，並走訪澳洲、美國等地；亦設一年IB預備班，供學生自中四開始修讀，及早訓練與別不同的學習模式，並要經常自我反省及應用知識，因此正式升讀IB課程開始，已掌握一定技巧。

控制收生數目以控制質素亦十分重要，校內、校外生均可於中三申請修讀IB課程，校方設有筆試及兩次面試，以學生時間管理、對社會事物了解及社交技巧等作收生準則。

該校IB課程師生比率為1:1至1:22，讓師生有更多交流機會；再加上不少導師本身亦為IB課程核卷員，所以對應試技巧、評分準則等十分了解，可以針對課程要求教授。

英皇佐治五世 4人獲滿分

英基學校表現亦不俗，當中英皇佐治五世學校及南島中學分別出產4及3名狀元，港島中學和沙田學院亦各有2名。此外，滬江維多利亞學校、啟思中學、英基西島中學亦分別出產一名狀元。

至於其他地區，上海、北京和台灣IB尖子比率，分別為16.5%、11%及8.8%，低於香港的23.2%。

IB機構表示，考生成績受多項因素影響，包括教師經驗和質素、同輩和兄姐影響、學校設施、家長和政府支援等，難以簡單解釋各地區學生成績差異。

機構又認為，不應只着眼於公開試的成績，亦要着重學生如何從學習經歷之中，裝備自己以應付未來大學的生涯。


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poonseelai  HK Economic Times  發表於 12-8-22 13:21
mattsmum  這是那份報紙？  發表於 12-8-21 22:58
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Mighty

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其実想一想、DBS大家都知道是本地名校、圧力大、会谷、反観ESF学校、学生都是比較HEA下HEA下的、BUT成績都算OK鴉。

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Radiomama  Agree!  發表於 12-8-21 16:10
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回覆：港產IB狀元15人　男拔最標青　本地生表現佳　平均分超全球

DBS 人數少，收尖子。



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ANChan59  小兒不算尖子（100名外），他被取錄因為他的想象力及特別的思維模式。個人了解lB將會對他學習及成長的幫助。DSS無法100%lB，令外人誤解了。  發表於 12-8-27 08:18

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Littleho

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CIS just released 2012 results

http://www.cis.edu.hk/cisnews.asp?lang=e&detailpage=1&docid=120

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Ving

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It seems that ISF IB result is bit disappointed.

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Mighty

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Ving 發表於 12-8-21 19:20
It seems that ISF IB result is bit disappointed.

haha 係disappointing but you are disappointed.

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poonseelai  be careful, discussions on ISF can easily develop into debate over whether it is worth the money  發表於 12-8-22 11:35
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Jane1983

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從另一角度看，其實那些比較新的學校（包括RC，維記，ISF），每間top10 percentile的學生都拿到40分或以上，算係吳錯，起碼證明學校有培養好成績的平台。

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Littleho

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For some schools, their academic results are affected/distorted by the depth and breath of their sholarship programs.

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Jane1983

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Which schools u refer to?

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Ciz

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Apart from being new, these schools have a much higher percentage of students doing bilingual diploma (RC 60%+, ISF 70%+) which is more difficult, whereas ESF schools only have 10%+.  This may be one reason why their results are not as impressive.  But this leads me to wonder: does getting a bilingual diploma help with university admission?  Or only the score counts?

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slamai  Put it another way: if getting a bilingual diploma leads to a lower score and affects U admission, it doesn't worth it.  發表於 12-8-22 21:11
WYmom  No particular benefits, just good for local Chinese.  發表於 12-8-22 15:23

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poonseelai

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Ciz 發表於 12-8-22 14:20
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Apart from being new, these schools have a much higher percentage of students  ...

Bilingual DP means a student takes 2 Literature papers (ie Eng Lit and Chinese Lit for most of the HK students).
As far as I know, no added benefit.
There is hearsay that some Us will discount the IB points if a Chinese student (or a student with a Chinese name!) only takes the Chinese Language paper which is perceived as easier than the Chinese Literature paper.

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本帖最後由 bobbycheung 於 12-8-22 16:36 編輯

I remember we had a discussion about this subject in BK previously.  There's a passage from SIS's Handbook which says "Chinese students taking Language B Chinese need to be aware that this may not be considered to be a foreign language by some universities."
http://www.sis.edu.hk/sites/sis/ ... ook%202011-2013.pdf

For these universities, I guess doing Chinese does not only confer no benefit; it is in fact a drawback as the students could have taken a Language Ab Initio course in another language instead which would then be counted as a foreign language.

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ANChan59  I attended some non-JUPAS admission seminars in local U's, many IS and ESF students asked Chinese subjects, the official answers is in non-local curriculum and exam, you can apply to waive the Chines   發表於 12-8-27 08:23
slamai  For local Us, I'm not aware of any benefits of getting the bilingual diploma.  發表於 12-8-22 21:15

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poonseelai

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bobbycheung 發表於 12-8-22 16:34
I remember we had a discussion about this subject in BK previously.  There's a passage from SIS's Ha ...

Thanks bobbycheung.  This is the first "official" mentioning of the risk for a Chinese student taking Chinese B.  Are you aware of any real cases where students were rejected by Us because of this?

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Not sure about college admission but wouldn't dual language proficiency helps with getting a job and just enjoying life in general?  Just have a tough time believing it is easy to find good employment these days without a second language like Mandarin.

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slamai  Taking Chinese B HL should be sufficient for most cases unless to opt for a Chinese language degree.  發表於 12-8-22 21:18
今日佳句: 我以往也以為國際板的家長也有質素，但現在才知deal with 一些麻煩家長也不易！  

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I'm still trying to understand this.  In the spirit of education, these schools' effort in promoting bilingual proficiency is admirable.  But when others are taking the easy way, these students are at a disadvantage.  Of course, it's another story if the student does really well in Chinese but this is not the case for most international school students.
Nevertheless, I can think of one instance when the bilingual diploma may be of significance.  It's when the student is applying for HK universities.  Such degrees as law and medicine do require a certain level of proficiency in Chinese.  Having Chinese A may then put the candidate in a better position providing the score is reasonably good.  Am I correct?

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ANChan59  Agree with slamai's comments.  發表於 12-8-27 08:24
slamai  For comparison, the standard of DSE English is just equivalent to Use of English.  發表於 12-8-23 11:16
slamai  There is no easy way out as IB requires at least one Language A.  If Chinese is not Language A, it will be English and IB English A is NOT easy at all.  發表於 12-8-23 11:15
slamai  For non-JUPAS candidates of local Us, Chinese is not a compulsary subject.  發表於 12-8-23 11:11
bobbycheung  Sorry, what's the easy way?  I don't quite get it.  發表於 12-8-23 01:23

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poonseelai,

Sorry, I've got no idea. I guess it's real because otherwise SIS wouldn't have said it.  Perhaps SIS parents or students could tell us which universities adopt this view.

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In the SIS document concerned, it refers to the plausible case of Foreign Language courses only of some Us rather than courses in general of these Us.  If in doubt, better discuss with your school's U counselor.

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I meant taking Chin B, which presumably is easier.  I'm not comparing IB with DSE/HKAL.  My question is, if bilingual diploma (i.e. Eng A + Chin A) offers no advantage, what's the point of doing it as is encouraged by these newer int'l schools?  Why not go for Chin B?

Anyway, you're right.  I should better understand with my kids' school when the time comes.  Thanks all.

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If you apply for UK Us, I think it's better to take French/Spanish/German as foreigh language rather than Chinese.  Chinese can be learnt easily outside of school (private tutor, centres etc.) but other foreign languagues are not so.

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