有無人知今年英基IGCSE成績如何？ - 國際學校

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If IGCSE is really that easy and even studying for only 3 months can move one from a C to an A, how could a student (already 15 or older who should be old enough to take responsibilities) get such bad results as to "deserve" being advised to leave a school?

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Or put it another way, if the school is all about academics, maybe the school is really not suitable to a student who could not do well even in an exam that's so easy according to some people

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shadeslayer 發表於 15-9-5 06:32
Categorically is a strong word as it means no exceptions.

中途如果你成績唔得, 會開聲叫你走.

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Don't you get it? Telling individual cases are fine, with whatever information these cases might have. You telling cases of students asked by the school to leave are perfectly fine. Me telling cases of students very weak academically stayed in the school for many years. You accuse my cases being weak. That is fine. I won't manufacture something.

Drawing blanket statement or categorical statement like "中途如果你成績唔得, 會開聲叫你走." up front from whatever cases you might have is bound to be controversial. When you draw conclusions you should be prepared to demonstrate that your conclusion is reasonable based on the cases you have. The burden therefore is on whoever making blanket statements. I am not shifting burden, see?

You said

"中途如果你成績唔得, 會開聲叫你走."

Followed by "I only say things that I know for sure" is pretty blanket/categorical, whether you meant it or not.

"中途如果你成績唔得, （學校）會開聲叫你走"

Is a blanket conclusion/statement and is open to others who might what to know how you drew that conclusion.

"我認識(幾位/十幾位/一百位）中途成績唔得的學生, 學校開聲叫佢地走. " is fine as it is information, not a conclusion.

"中途如果你成績唔得, 學校好可能開聲叫你走" is a conclusion but it is not a blanket statement and I would probably not bothered to ask how you draw this conclusion.

Can you see the difference? Of course you don't.

You probably don't have further information to provide, I will stop right here.

The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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caa 發表於 15-9-5 08:46
If IGCSE is really that easy and even studying for only 3 months can move one from a C to an A, how ...

May be we should take a step back.Different people have different abilities. The spread of exam result data is always a typical gaussian distribution.
The easiest curriculum can still be hard for students that are not academic. And thus the lowest percentile of the distribution can be a "fail".

As regards whether any school is asking students to leave school, I do believe no one is purposely lying here.
A responsible school and a responsible teacher should try to understand the ability of a student and come up with suggestions of what future pathways a student can take. Whether a parent take it as "the school is kicking my son out" or "the school is suggesting alternative that is more suitable" is up to the parent.
If I were the parent, I would have been worried too. But I am sure I would thank the school in 10 years time.
There is no point dragging on in a curriculum that my child struggles to even get a pass. Why not move forward and choose a pathway that is more suitable?

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caa 發表於 15-9-5 08:51
Or put it another way, if the school is all about academics, maybe the school is really not suitable to a student who could not do well even in an exam that's so easy according to some people

This probably sums up everything.
Unfortunately some parents take it hard and feel upset, betrayed etc ....

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Unfortunately there aren't many choices in HK. I heard ESF has another path besides IB but don't know any details

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Unfortunately there aren't many choices in HK. I heard ESF has another path be ...

ESF students are very fortunate. We have BTEC as an alternative. But not all schools offer BTEC. Students might need to go to another ESF school.
You are right. There are not many choices in HK. However, I think most students attending international schools are from families that can afford to seek alternative elsewhere.

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The following ESF webpage updated on 7.9.2015 for IGCSE/GCSE results:

http://www.esf.edu.hk/esfpublicexams/students

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Thank you very much for your information. As ESF is non- selective, I think that the IGCSE results are actually good.

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Agreed.

The following statistics of CIE's IGCSE serve as a good reference as well:

http://www.cie.org.uk/images/252264-cambridge-igcse-results-statistics-june-2015.pdf