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原帖由 花花公仔 於 11-9-21 23:25 發表
學校是否有很多南亞籍人仕?

係, 有咩問題?

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they belongs to non-Chinese students group, 4-6 students in each class. But not all non-Chinese speaking children are S Asians. Some of them may be of mixed cultures or bi-raical kids.

They are lovely children in class, same as all the kids in class, have variations in learning, could be very smart, could be behind the learning.

I love to have these kids in my son's class, at least they bring more worldviews to the children, such as Indian food, S asian religion and customs. Children learn to respect different cultures is part of the moral training!!

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i have no bias in s asian culture or any others. i'm also considering TSL as my daughter's 1st priority of primary study.
but have to admit that s asian kids in HK usually live in the more complicated environment. do you think they do bring back some negative influence to the others?

this is told by my girl's class teacher which happened to her friend's son... he started to say rude thing after studying there...

what do you mommies think?

thanks in advance for your advices.

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If you want a 100% "clean" environment, then you should really take a second thought on your decision if you want to choose this school. Every cultural family or ethnic family will have "complicated families", including we Chinese families, including middle class families, including high income families, including professors, big business families, including pastors' families including teachers' families. All of their families will be possibily "complicated" and "negative" impacts on children!

The question you raised seems to have bias, but you seem to deny this bia. Your message, from my point of view, not fair to the S Asian kids study in this school! Imagine if parents of S Asian students in this school read your message, how do they feel?

some schools will screen the backgrounds of parents while at the entrance interview, to make sure they are "clean", but that's their definition, you never guarantee no complications out of these "clean" families.

I hope this school will not be one of these schools only want "clean" families as PLK is an organization that should provide education opportunities to children from all backgrounds ( i knew a bit about PLK's history, they serve street kids and girls at the begining)

原帖由 kilivic 於 11-9-22 11:45 發表
i have no bias in s asian culture or any others. i'm also considering TSL as my daughter's 1st priority of primary study.
but have to admit that s asian kids in HK usually live in the more complicate ...

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Hey, motherotk,
Bravo! I agree with your opinion and really like the way you said it. I'm happy to kmow that most of TSL parentsthink alike. 

原帖由 motherotk 於 22/9/2011 11:52 發表
If you want a 100% "clean" environment, then you should really take a second thought on your decision if you want to choose this school. Every cultural family or ethnic family will have "complicated f ...

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Thanks Flostangraphy!!

Hong Kong now has an anti-discrimination law based on racial discrimination. I think we as parents should be able to understand what is equal opportunities for children from all backgrounds as well as not to discriminate children from certain racial groups through overt (e,g, verbal, written) or covert (other subtle forms) message.

I believe this is the basic moral education, especially for children learning in a multicultral context.

原帖由 flostangraphy 於 11-9-23 08:43 發表
Hey, motherotk,
Bravo! I agree with your opinion and really like the way you said it. I'm happy to kmow that most of TSL parentsthink alike. 

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I really can't understand why some parents regard the existence of South Asian classmates as an issue, and every year some questions on this pops up.

(The "older" BK members will happily remember the Kln Tong Granny / Mummy / entire clan a few years back. It brought such fun !)

The school always emphasize its multi-culturalism, and if you read a little about the history of PLKCTSL, the "Camoes" part is the non-Chinese part.

If you look around, all the old elite schools have / had S Asian students too. So what ?!

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原帖由 Bluestar 於 11-9-23 12:19 PM 發表
I really can't understand why some parents regard the existence of South Asian classmates as an issue, and every year some questions on this pops up.

(The "older" BK members will happily remember the ...

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Bluestar,

(The "older" BK members will happily remember the Kln Tong Granny / Mummy / entire clan a few years back.
It brought such fun !)

Are you referring to me??

原帖由 Bluestar 於 11-9-23 12:19 發表

I really can't understand why some parents regard the existence of South Asian classmates as an issue, and every year some questions on this pops up.

(The "older" BK members will happily remember the ...

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原帖由 principal 於 11-9-23 16:53 發表
Bluestar,

(The "older" BK members will happily remember the Kln Tong Granny / Mummy / entire clan a few years back.
It brought such fun !)

Are you referring to me??

No, not you, e-p.

You know who I was referring to !
It was sooooo much fun then !

Actually I'm glad to see that the school is still able to maintain a multicultural environment for the kids. They learn much better that way, incl other cultures. My kid tells me that if one plays / chats with the non-Chinese kids, you can actually improve a lot in oral Engl !

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Bluestar,

Obviously, I am not the "Kowloon Tong Premium Granny".
I mean "older BK member"!!

原帖由 Bluestar 於 11-9-23 17:29 發表

No, not you, e-p.

You know who I was referring to !
It was sooooo much fun then !

Actually I'm glad to see that the school is still able to maintain a multicultural environment for the kids. They ...

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you probably right. thanks for reminding me and pointing it out.

i'm learning to be a better person after having my girl.

apologize if i made anyone felt bad...

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原帖由 kilivic 於 23/9/2011 22:53 發表
you probably right. thanks for reminding me and pointing it out.

i'm learning to be a better person after having my girl.

apologize if i made anyone felt bad...

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There are some schools with far more good results on academic outcomes as released from the official website on secondary school allocation. Among these choices, I take this school because of its more "humane" ways of learning, the outcome is very good so far...

if you want a "pushing" school, TSL is now more pushing than before, probably will meet your expectation...

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rite...

fun learning is still my ideal way for my daughter's school life... i do not want to kill her creativity on one hand, but i also have to consider if i can support her studying in PTL's way.

is there projects involving parents everyday or weekly?

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Hi Kilivic,

kids and parents are different, may have different interprtation, here is my opinion:

1) fun learning is still my ideal way for my daughter's school life...

Ans: TSL is not that fun learning when compared with other schools as the teachers are not really trained to use IB type of learning, they are young, but still using traditional ways of learning, but not that conservative as too traditional..

2) i do not want to kill her creativity on one hand, but i also have to consider if i can support her studying in PTL's way.

Ans: I think creativity is not enough promoted in this school, sorry, I am quite disappointed on that, but still, more creative than many other traditional government schools. But for sure, their ways of teaching will not kill creativity, but not much promoting..

3) How much time to support learning

Ans: No anxiety on me to support my kid's learning at all.
because

a) the teachers encouraged students to be independent, not to be perfect, same as me as a mom; fear of school to produce perfect child, how terrible, TSL is not this kind of terrible school!

b) I am a full-time working mom, in reality I don't have much time to intensively monitor my kid's homework to achieve perfectness, and I hate perfectness myself as well! But the result is not bad, not perfect, but up to the kid's and my expectation!

c) My kid basically is independent, partly due to the personality, partly due to the school culture, partly due to my parenting, so not much time required from me, just give a little direction will be fine.
d) two weeks before exam, I plan with the kids together with his revision timetable, he implement the plans. I will spend more time with him during these two weeks in academic learning. Other than that, all of our time together is reading, eating, tv time and sports time.

4) is there projects involving parents everyday or weekly?

Some, not many, very reasonable, up to my standard, and these projects are meaningful projects, such as those from general studies, science project , need project to learn, not need readings to learn..

if you are not requiring perfectness; the good part about this school and the teachers (except the interview, they are more and more incline to recurit a "perfect" child now, so it's a shame that some wonderful smart kids will not be recruited these two years due to their "inperfectness in speaking english or presentation in interviews", I don't understand why they require kid's presentation skills, they are not recruiting bankers or professors!!! they are now recruiting superkids!!), for the kids in school, they seem quite respect children's imperfectness, so the kids do well in the project with teachers' guidance, not much from parents , so far so good, no disaster or any accident of mark drops. Kids learn with adults' respect and allowance of space. This is the good part of school.

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