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聖保祿小學 vs 港大同學會   [複製鏈接]

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發表於 20-4-16 10:37 |只看該作者
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In my view, in terms of local traditional schools, only SPCC and DGS can exceed Paul Con for gals. In fact, for pure gals' schools, Paul Con only comes second to DGS (may be similar level as St. Mary's and Maryknoll).
Of course, Paul Con and HKUGA are schools with different styles. I heard some parents may even choose HKUGA over SPCC and DGS. If you are one of those, then I suggest you choose HKUGA. Otherwise, of course Paul Con.

Another amazing thing with Paul Con is that it can train students up to Band 1A level when the majority of the secondary school graduates studied there from Kindergarten without much "in-and-out" students in-between.


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SarahGil 發表於 20-4-16 10:37
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In my view, in terms of local traditional schools, only SPCC and DGS can exceed  ...

Very well said, straight to the point as well!

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發表於 20-4-16 11:50 |只看該作者

回覆樓主:

Paul Con 邊方面較弱?

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princesscupcake 發表於 20-4-16 11:50
Paul Con 邊方面較弱?

英小
普遍中文弱,加上大多人出去學普通話

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發表於 20-4-16 13:22 |只看該作者
一個重點,返8:30 呢樣已經係德政

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韋琦 發表於 20-4-16 10:46
這才神,因小一冇得選生。
但kg 有㨂wor, 升小亦不是100%吧。

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發表於 20-4-16 13:34 |只看該作者
回覆 SarahGil 的帖子

Actually if you have studied all the DSE reports by all these scools St Mary and Maryknoll DSE results in recent years are no better than HKUGA. As for St Paul Convent, there are a proportionate number of students not taken the DSE (go abroad or take A-Level). You can compare the number of students in S1 and S6 taking DSE. So the DSE results do not actually reflect true academic performance of the students. Not to mention, only 80-90% of students from St Paul Convent areselected and accepted to S1 and there is a stricter bar for  promotion between grades. HKUGA promotes 100% of students from P6 to S1 and it is rare students are asked to repeat. Looking at the dse scores of boys' schools, I am not surprised the DSE performance of girls at HKUGA is better than that of the girls schools mentioned in the thread.

But I think academic performance of these schools (SPC, HKUGA, etc.) are not that significant as they are very close anyway. Scores may vary in future. What is important is to consider:

1. 12 year Co-ed School vs 12 year Girl School
2. 80-90% selection to S1 vs 100% promotion to S1
3. repeat risk
4. Traditional Learning vs Project Learning
5. School Fees
6. HKUGS offers P6 students the sub test so students can opt for applying for other government school vs SPC no such arrangement

I believe there are more parents at EK waiting for the call-wait of HKUGA than St Paul Convent so some parents would be happy if parent give up the offer of HKUGA. Congratulations on the offer by the way!

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發表於 20-4-16 14:10 |只看該作者
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I am not too familiar with HKUGA DSE results. But for Paul Con, 80-90% (I guess the reality is more than that) is already a very high percentage of entry into secondary. Plus repeat risk is really low. Unless you are really bad like have poor misconduct or fail in one of the core subjects then you may be asked to repeat. If this is the case, I think that student can hardly survive in any of the popular schools.

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發表於 20-4-16 14:32 |只看該作者
回覆 SarahGil 的帖子

The reality is more like 95%...
2018-2019 DSE 數據 (from hkpapa852)

中學名稱

3322

3大比例

本地學士
課程比例

學士課程比例
(本地+海外)

人均5+/整體
5+比例

主科5+

主科4+

港大同學會書院

78.90%

50.79%

80.16%

>=80.16%

36.50%

17.5%/48.4%/32.8%/43
%

47.6%/86.7%/70.3%/82
%

聖保祿學校 (DSE)

<=90%

57.78%

83.33%

94.44%

3.17/46.64%

25.6%/76.7%/32.3%/41
.4%

67.8%/98.9%/76.7%/83
.8%




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發表於 20-4-16 14:45 |只看該作者
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http://www.spcs.edu.hk/schoolprofile/2019-2020/03_School_Report_2018-2019%2020191113.pdf

The admission % to HKU, CU and UST published by the school is about 50%.

Among 147 s6 students (240 students admitted in S1?), 90 take dse and 57 take A-level. About 60% of students take DSE. So the DSE results reflect the performance of 60% of students only.

Unlike SPCC and DGS or DBS(IB stream) that offer academic performance of a completely different level, comparing the academic performance of other schools mentioned in the thread do not offer much meaning. My 2 cents.

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發表於 20-4-16 14:49 |只看該作者
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Not sure how "hkpapa" come up with these figures that are not consistent with the school's official report. I think school reports are the only source we can rely on to get the info. Having said that however, who knows if the school has massaged the data on the report? That's why I say for schools of similar academic standing, there is not much meaning comparing the statistic.


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發表於 20-4-16 14:54 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 interview 於 20-4-16 14:57 編輯

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I think 50% is for the whole school (DSE + AL). The data I quoted from hkapa852 seems to be DSE only which is an apples to apples comparison for those who chose to take DSE at Convent.
Half of the students who took AL went overseas

http://www.spcs.edu.hk/201920Prospectus.pdf
refer to page 5

I am just trying to help by bringing up the facts here.  

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發表於 20-4-16 14:57 |只看該作者
回覆 et04032007 的帖子

"massage the data" ??? seriously?
If thats what one believes, no point discussing at all


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發表於 20-4-16 15:27 |只看該作者
interview 發表於 20-4-16 14:32
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The reality is more like 95%...

3322率,恐怕係要比較嘅入場資格吧,其他後話~~~

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發表於 20-4-16 15:31 |只看該作者
et04032007 發表於 20-4-16 14:45
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http://www.spcs.edu.hk/schoolprofile/2019-2020/03_School_Report_2018-2019%202 ...

Hkpapa用呢份
http://www.spcs.edu.hk/201819Prospectus.pdf

DSE學生入3大比例: (26+12+9)/89 = 52.81%

GCE-AL學生入3大比例: (13+6+0)/56 = 33.93%

https://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3659724&extra=page%3D1&page=42
#828

所以,整體應該係(26+12+9+13+6+0)/145
=45%左右
而果條thread p.1只用左DSE data, 可能係手文之誤

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發表於 20-4-16 15:40 |只看該作者
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60% or 50% of S1 go to S6?
Further 60% of these S6 take the dse?

So about 1/3  of S1 admitted actually take the DSE? Not to say, not all the P6 students can enter S1?

With such drop out rate and selection mechanism along the path to S6, 33222 rate would be dissapointing if it is not close to 100%

For band 1A schools , parents usually take reference of 5+ scores and admission rate to HKU,CUHK,UST for a general idea of academic achievment.

Undoubtedly, SPC DSE result is impressive too but the question is as a SPC P1 student, what is the chance of the student be the one contributing to the S6 DSE result? If a child is:
1. Not Selected into S1 OR
2. Be the 40% of those that dropped out and not go to S6
3. In the S6 class, the child is the 40% not taking the DSE

Then DSE result of St Paul Convent is not quite relevant.

As I share again and again, the comparison of dse and university admission 12 years later is way too far. There are more considerations for a parent to decide on a school choice as the learning style of two schools, assessment, class size, etc. are very different. It is easy for a parent to decide what is the learning environment that the child thrives and enjoy the learning the most.

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發表於 20-4-16 15:46 |只看該作者
et04032007 發表於 20-4-16 15:40
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"the learning style of two schools, assessment, class size, etc. are very different. It is easy for a parent to decide what is the learning environment that the child thrives and enjoy the learning the most."


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發表於 20-4-16 15:51 |只看該作者
et04032007 發表於 20-4-16 15:40
回覆 mcl203 的帖子

你寫咁大堆論點,似乎都證明唔到甚麼,SPCS本身一向嘅傳統風格如是。你話人哋drop out rate,人哋可能去咗spcc/dgs/海外升學,你話佢飛走成績唔好又得,我話佢半力出戰有得,根本就難有最終答案,亦不可能因為外間唔識睇佢啲成績,去阻止學生離校/放洋。就算放洋,你可話佢讀唔掂局走,事實佢又可能目標唔係香港嘅中學,邊個可以有100%數據~~~
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