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Julybabe 發表於 19-7-24 22:01
想請問為什麼這幾年聖心書院banding好像下滑得好犀利  由1a跌落1b/1b... 有沒有原因？而且聽聞入U率也下降 ...

聖心書院從來都唔係 B1A，佢哋既 banding 係有啲下滑，但係唔算好犀利，都仍然係 B1B 左右。

入U率亦都無下降，2017 年仲係近年高位（但係都係只有 6 成）。至於有冇同學入到神科，意義唔大，因為即使係差既學校，都一定有黑天鵝，何況係 B1 學校。

近年入 U 率：

2013	2014	2015	2016	2017	2018
62.2%	55.7%	57.5%	58.4%	64.2%	58.8%

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sunflower2000 發表於 19-7-25 08:26
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這入U率又如何解讀?

因為學校公佈既資料唔多，無詳細 DSE 成績做對照，所以唔可能知道入U率既水份有幾多。基於 Occam's Razor 法則，最簡單既假設係 annie133 所講，成績愈好會出得愈詳細，所以我認為應該有水份，但係實際數字點都有四、五成。

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Julybabe 發表於 19-7-25 08:27
thanks for the figures.  I have another question - it appears to me that this school is more inclin ...

All Canossian schools are relatively more rigidly focused on academics and tend to assign way too much homework to their students.
However, recent studies found that the quality of schools is not related to the quantity of homework given and the rigidness of the schools concerned.  That's the reason why MSS has much better DSE results that that of SHCC.  However, many parents, especially those new immigrants, often judged a school by the amount of homework given.

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hkpapa852 發表於 19-7-25 08:54
任何學校公開試成績都有起跌，何必太在乎什麼B1A/B/C呢？
而且如果本身唔係兩間聖小既學生，恐怕亦唔係咁易 ...

兩間聖小勁既學生先入到，所以其實學校收生質素應該相當高，但係高收生質素反映唔到係 DSE 成績度，原因係嘜？

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Julybabe 發表於 19-7-25 09:01
thanks again, so what you are saying is students from these Canossian schools are preoccupied/ over ...

I really don't know.  St. Mary's isn't transparent enough with their DSE results, so it is difficult to know the real situation. But from the school reports, it said "172 students took part in HKDSE 2018.  97.1% of students met the minimum entrance requirement for local Bachelor degree courses". Therefore, the only firm conclusion we can draw is St. Mary's did a good job of "catering for learner differences".

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hkpapa852 發表於 19-7-25 09:14
現實學校無公佈過任何DSE成績, 好與唔好, 只係大家感覺而己

只係好好奇, 點解咁多年D家長都可以咁齊心, 連 ...

但係學校有公佈入U率，所以可以估到DSE成績最差係點。

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annie133 發表於 19-7-25 09:35
入u率是八大定三大定全部（包外國）？

所以我話應該有水份，但係水份幾多，真係個謎。

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pccw2017 發表於 19-7-25 10:54
係咪聖心私小入的比例高D ?

應該係

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hkpapa852 發表於 19-7-25 11:30
其實有可能係兩間小學部既學生水平下跌, 影響中學部成績

講得啱，2012年校務告開始無再公佈Pre-S1成績，有啲 fishy。

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Julybabe 發表於 19-7-25 10:32
so is it fair to say the way sacred heart educate its student is ineffective? sorry to say but what ...

Because of insufficient information, it is difficult to know whether the problem is happening in primary schools or college.  However, since they have two primary schools and the chance of both schools dropping in quality simultaneity is low, it is more reasonable to assume that the root cause is the low value-adding of the college.

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suzuki12 發表於 19-7-25 11:45
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其實資料不足下，都只能夠咁估。

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Julybabe 發表於 19-7-25 13:59
what is pre s1 results pls?

The Pre-S1 HKAT is an examination that serves two purposes.  First, it lets secondary schools know the Chinese Language, English Language and Mathematics proficiency of their S1 entrants so that the schools can plan for any supporting measures if necessary. Second, for secondary school places allocation purpose.

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Band5 發表於 19-7-26 09:04
我覺得聖心書院入u率低嘅一個好重要原因係因為佢用咗好多自行位收番自己學生，其他傳統中學用自行位收嘅多 ...

210個小學部學生，收140個，剛剛好係2/3，其實唔算多，同其他有小學部既學校差唔多。

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storymum 發表於 19-7-25 10:01
好奇一問，邊d學校係band 1A 而又明確分開公佈三大、八大⋯⋯DSE 成績？

其實 B1A 學校都會公佈相當詳情既 DSE 成績。至於三大、八大，應該無，原因係最勁嗰啲可能目標唔係三大，而係牛劍、長青藤。

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hk1 發表於 19-7-26 09:56
本帖最後由 hk1 於 19-7-26 09:57 編輯

我女嗰屆嘅私小, 成績最好嘅20個, 起碼有一半比其他學校搶咗,  ...

私小啲學生勁好多，離心力都大啲，但係私小始終人數少啲，影響無咁大。但係無論如何，大抽獎唔會收到B3學生，我唔相信學校會用自行位收B3學生，所以我唔相信中學部收到既學生會太差。

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cafeva 發表於 19-7-26 11:01
我覺得就係因為小學已經開始谷, 潛能盡露. 好既走左. 中上的無力再突破. 所以DSE 成績不太好也不壞.

講錯 ...

呢個有可能，所以我一直都唔贊成谷學生，應該令學生深入認識，甚至分析所學內容。基礎打好，先可能走得遠。

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subb 發表於 19-7-26 11:46
我知的讀津小, 分數考得好的一班,. 多數唔選聖心　！

聖心津小都係？

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LinusYip 發表於 19-7-26 09:31
本帖最後由 LinusYip 於 19-7-26 09:33 編輯

我覺得呢個係最重要因素

其實插班聖心私小係雞肋，區內更好既學校太多，所以唔係學校唔收插班，而係區內比較少人想去插佢哋班。

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Julybabe 發表於 19-7-26 12:10
but reality is.. a school.. with boot camp style.. yet results are not comparable to those less int ...

I can only say that the school suitable for some children, especially those who need harsh discipline to make them stay focus in their study, but it may not adequate for a child who is self-motivated and self-discipline.

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Julybabe 發表於 19-7-26 12:12
what is 雞肋？and I thought it's not easy to insert to other school like ssg? pls name a few school ...

The school has a unique advantage for some children, but maybe too harsh for others.  If you had a daughter who wants to go to a better school, which school would pop-up in your mind first? It would be SSGPS, right?  Probably, SCPS come second. Moreover, there are also many good primary girl schools in Wanchai.