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Re: 個人分享﹕對付頑皮仔需要具備的是......

慘啦! 我個仔先3歲半, 咪有排........ 你地講既我有d未遇到, 真係好驚小學時老師成日投訴呀.   
佢而家做既衰野有:
1. 成日講 "xx你個頭"
2. 見到有水氹隔離有人, 特登大力踏. (冇人唔踏)
3. 打佢, 佢會話"都唔痛既"
4. 搭車見人食野, 就大大聲話"唔淮食野,唔淮飲野"
總之成日周圍跳, 冇時停, 一言九"頂", 你叫佢唔好做, 佢專登做比你睇, 日日挑戰我既eq, 我對眼就黎 "啤" 佢, 啤到跌左出黎.  

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Re: 個人分享﹕對付頑皮仔需要具備的是......

對住小朋友真係少d耐性都吾得

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Re: 個人分享﹕對付頑皮仔需要具備的是......

其實我阿仔係幾古靈精怪,少少野都會令佢覺得好有趣好好玩(記得兩歲時去藥房等比錢時,架上有一件貨品突然跌左落地(bok一聲),佢立時呆了一秒,然後突然哈哈哈笑出黎...係果種好天真好自然覺得好有趣的笑聲)

平時,只要一刺激到佢個敏感的神經系統,佢就會馬上變得好high,一high左,就會失控、興奮,以前佢細個時(兩三歲度),若要控制佢失控左的行為時 (如嘻嘻哈哈亂扔東西,不停搞小朋友甚至大人),要讓佢冷靜下來的方法是打佢個pat,但如果佢興奮過度,可能一邊打,佢一邊仍在嬉皮笑臉的哈哈哈﹗ ....

搞到我地成日唔係好敢同佢玩,免得佢太容易進入"忘我"的失控境界,又得要激烈一番收拾殘局,怕左佢。所以最好唔好惹起佢把"火",除非大家都置身在波波池中啦,咁會安全d,但都擔心佢興奮起來,都可以拿起d波擲你架喎。

佢係外面、在學校他通常都比較守規矩(尤其係未熟悉的環境,佢可能係全班最守規ge一個都唔定),除左倔強d,唔係咁願接受老師批評外。但,如果一有野刺激到佢,令佢唔記得左"陌生",佢在情緒上又會變得有點激烈,或者是憤怒,或者是興奮、開心﹗總之情緒反應上,係比一般孩子來得強烈。

當佢對所處環境唔再陌生和抗拒時,噢,不知道是禍是福,佢"戒備"心無咁重時,就較容易放鬆,唔去控制自己情緒架喇。佢連"開心"時都唔係人咁品..."哈哈哈哈哈哈"笑得特別大聲架﹗bb時,開心個陣都可以"襲撃"你.......

  
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Harry媽 寫道:
睡覺,
我個仔九歲讀三年班,佢呢就好少整估人
誰會直率地說出所認識的真實?有所認識的少數人,愚蠢地不隱蔽自己充實的心,向愚民們說明他們的感情和見識,他們總是被人磔死或燒死。 歌德 <<浮士德>>入來做下test,不同的人對事情有不同的看法和感受﹗

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Re: 個人分享﹕對付頑皮仔需要具備的是......

我個仔都好容易興奮,人地講一句佢認為好笑或做一樣佢認為得意
當你走到無力繼續下去,當你感到寂寞困惱空虛 只要相信神隨時扶助你,願助你解開困惑拋開痛悲 當你跑到疲乏難再下去,當你感到疑惑說我是誰 只要相信神完全明白你,就讓你伸手接受他深愛你 別害怕他知你難受,擔當軟弱與困憂 不需再懼怕,耶穌必拯救,願你開口接受,張開你手 別害怕他知你難受,擔當軟弱與困憂,不需再懼怕 耶穌必拯救,讓你一生快樂展翅高飛,一個全新的你。

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Re: 個人分享﹕對付頑皮仔需要具備的是......

HARRY 媽...
       真係忍唔住,應該去煮飯ge時候都唔去住,因為好想講,哈哈,我阿仔ge自尊心同你阿仔都一樣,都係超級無比的強,唔俾人話得。我見老師都要對佢讓步,老師話佢如果寫錯字或想糾正佢不對的地方時,佢都唔鍾意,睬佢都傻咁....老師必須好有耐性咁,好婉轉咁同佢好聲好氣咁解釋dou一輪 (但最好唔好講 "你錯了"喎﹗)我同老師講,如果佢一兩件事係咁就無所謂,我長期對左佢咁多年,生活上咁多大小問題,佢下下都咁ge態度,小小事都同我玩野,我邊有咁多耐性解釋完一樣,下一分鐘又黎新ge...

老師話俾佢讀小班係明智ge.選擇..

我阿仔做功課都係超級快,一下子就話做完,寫字也快到出奇,結果成日寫漏寫錯筆畫,寫到好醜,同你阿仔一樣,唔肯改....寫得醜我都算,寫錯的話,我希望佢改..但佢一樣唔肯(除非你又tum佢一輪....),仲大大聲話﹕「我係唔會改架﹗」

如果用權來逼佢改呢?佢就話,「我一定寫得好醜樣ge」(佢咁樣原因其實係﹕我唔要聽你指揮也﹗)
於是佢特登寫到好ugly,又特登出哂界,目的係佢要取回俾你"指揮"ge自尊,認為寫成咁就代表唔輸俾你.......
但寫成咁,如果再叫佢重寫,結果係衝突收場,佢次次係咁,遲早我都瘋癲。所以,我很快就放棄佢ge功課了,唔理佢。

好明顯,老師改薄時,一定知道我無同佢睇功課,唔係寫錯就係鬼畫符,但老師無向我投訴......哈哈,算ba la...老師都領教過要佢改野ge辛苦。

不過最近,佢突然又開始肯寫好d..我好開心,佢終於自發性地,心甘情願地肯寫靚d喇,似返d "字" 樣。...............
誰會直率地說出所認識的真實?有所認識的少數人,愚蠢地不隱蔽自己充實的心,向愚民們說明他們的感情和見識,他們總是被人磔死或燒死。 歌德 <<浮士德>>入來做下test,不同的人對事情有不同的看法和感受﹗

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Re: 個人分享﹕對付頑皮仔需要具備的是......

謙仔媽咪 寫道:
慘啦! 我個仔先3歲半, 咪有排........ 你地講既我有d未遇到, 真係好驚小學時老師成日投訴呀.   
佢而家做既衰野有:
1. 成日講 "xx你個頭"
2. 見到有水氹隔離有人, 特登大力踏. (冇人唔踏)
3. 打佢, 佢會話"都唔痛既"
4. 搭車見人食野, 就大大聲話"唔淮食野,唔淮飲野"
總之成日周圍跳, 冇時停, 一言九"頂", 你叫佢唔好做, 佢專登做比你睇, 日日挑戰我既eq, 我對眼就黎 "啤" 佢, 啤到跌左出黎.  


1.同你個仔一樣 (我係度稔,其實我有時都咁同佢講野,呵呵)
2. 我阿仔都有好多與你個仔類似ge行為。
3.一模一樣...自少到加下一樣都係咁講。例如打佢兩下手板,佢就話"都唔痛ge",咁我就會同佢講﹕「下?唔痛呀?哎吔,我下次一定要打得比今次更大力至得啦﹗」咁佢就拿拿林話﹕「痛呀,剛才打得痛呀﹗」
4. 兩歲多,睇中醫時,睇完等取藥,中醫取支煙出來抽,阿仔突然好激動咁指著佢話﹕「唔准食煙呀,你曳曳呀﹗」周圍的人都有點愕然,搞到個中醫好尷尬。
    早陣子在天橋路過,見到個乞丐,佢突然指著他大大聲說﹕「乞衣呀﹗」    搞到我真係想取個袋...哈哈,唔係粒我個頭,係粒住阿仔,然後即刻抱走佢呀...............   成五歲幾,都仲係咁...
誰會直率地說出所認識的真實?有所認識的少數人,愚蠢地不隱蔽自己充實的心,向愚民們說明他們的感情和見識,他們總是被人磔死或燒死。 歌德 <<浮士德>>入來做下test,不同的人對事情有不同的看法和感受﹗

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Re: 個人分享﹕對付頑皮仔需要具備的是......

睡覺,

爭d笑死我, 有次我都想"粒住阿仔,然後即刻抱走佢呀" .
嗰次我地見到個紋身大漢喺度洗車, 佢就停低唔肯行, 係度指指點點 "有龍呀, mummy, 仲有蛇蛇呀, 好多好多動物呀, 超勁呀!"    

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睡覺,
你就好啦,個仔肯寫番靚d字,我個仔就越來越藝術了,重寫到鬼咁細粒,不過佢默書考試時又識寫番靚架喎。如你講法一樣,若下下都同佢抗爭,真係命唔長呀。有一晚我同個仔講,我問佢除
當你走到無力繼續下去,當你感到寂寞困惱空虛 只要相信神隨時扶助你,願助你解開困惑拋開痛悲 當你跑到疲乏難再下去,當你感到疑惑說我是誰 只要相信神完全明白你,就讓你伸手接受他深愛你 別害怕他知你難受,擔當軟弱與困憂 不需再懼怕,耶穌必拯救,願你開口接受,張開你手 別害怕他知你難受,擔當軟弱與困憂,不需再懼怕 耶穌必拯救,讓你一生快樂展翅高飛,一個全新的你。

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Re: 個人分享﹕對付頑皮仔需要具備的是......

睡覺, harry 媽, 謙仔媽 ,


我個女而家係 k1 生, 但佢既行為舉止, 同你地所講既都大同小異, 老師前日同我講, 話我個女搥同學仔背脊, 我問個女點解要咁做, 佢話'唔知喎' , 老師仲話, 亞女係班上, mug 都要爭第一, 又要做最快嗰個, 老師叫我不如考慮生多個, 等佢無咁悶, 話而家我倆得一個小朋友, 難免會緃個女..

縱鬼縱馬咩, 佢無時停, 攪呢攪路, 不停咁講野, 唔願瞓覺, 成日紮紮跳, 鬧佢個陣, 就識扁咀話下次唔敢, 但轉頭又黎過...

我問個女, 點解你要咁曳呀 ? 佢話唔知

尋日餅餅湊女放學, 老師同他講, 話個女係學校mang人條辮, 所以就罰佢呢緊個星期唔准我女紮辮返學, 咁我今朝同佢講話唔紮辮, 佢哦左一聲, 因為平時一起身就要搵橡筋要紮辮返學, 到左湊佢放學個陣, 我問佢, 紮番條辮辮好無, 佢話唔紮...佢又好似知錯, 知道要受罰咁....

我頭先比 pizzle (100張) 佢砌, 唔夠10分鐘, 佢已經砌到三十幾張...

佢瞓左後, 我諗住幫佢放好d, 但整散左, 我砌左成20鐘先砌番好佢之前個d...

其實我買puzzle 比個女砌, 係想佢集中專注力, 同埋可以坐定定...

雖然老師曾經講過話我個女可能資優, 但我覺得我女似有 '過度活躍症' 多d

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端午節前一晚我去左飲, 到第二日, 餅餅休息, 一早落街買早餐, 個女同我講, '媽咪, 你快d話我知你去飲既事, 係點樣架, 我無理佢, 之後無耐, 佢突然間係咁笑住同我講 , ''媽咪' 爹哋去左同第二個女人結緍牙' ,
我話'你講咩話", 佢真係掩住半邊咀騎騎笑話 '爹d同個老女人去左飲酒'     

好難相信呢d 說話會出自一個 4 歲幾既小朋友口中
    

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誰會直率地說出所認識的真實?有所認識的少數人,愚蠢地不隱蔽自己充實的心,向愚民們說明他們的感情和見識,他們總是被人磔死或燒死。 歌德 <<浮士德>>入來做下test,不同的人對事情有不同的看法和感受﹗

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Tobimom:
        我諗你阿囡可能係屬於九型人格中的7號仔活躍型呀﹗

睇你個囡ge情況,又好似唔係十分似我個仔,因為我個仔大部分時間係死唔認錯果種架(你個囡知錯已經算好架喇),我想你阿囡的問題主要是比較活躍吧?
我阿仔係學校其實唔係活躍型架,只要無野刺激到佢生氣或興奮,佢係比較含蓄和安靜架,而且唔喜歡太多人,一多人佢就煩躁、被動和默不作聲。不過在每一年的某些季節就會有突發性high high徵狀

平時阿仔係屋企,如果佢有自己野做,佢會好專心坐著好耐都得,但係當無所事事時,就會不停煩著你,不停咁講野,3歲幾時更恐怖,會係屋企不停咁全屋走來走去,一邊跳,一邊哼唱,可以哼足超過半小時係完全無停過,真係無休息過...把口同過身體(我拍低下來過了半小時都未停過,咁走法,睇到我眼都花埋;咁哼法,哼到我耳都聾埋),而加間唔中都仲會發作,但無以前咁頻密。

其實佢好活躍時我都可以忍受,但係佢成日死唔肯認低威,要奪權,唔肯認錯仲駁咀先至令我   

佢返主日學、或唔係好熟的姨姨來我地屋企,佢頑皮時被姨姨們責備時,佢夠膽死可以指返d姨姨話﹕「我覺得我無錯﹗」「我無唔arm,你至唔arm﹗」如果姨姨再責備佢,佢就會承受不了,可能偷偷的飲泣,又或是忍唔住哭了出來,覺得好委屈.......(但事實又真係好明顯係佢曳曳,佢自己其實知道,但卻承受不了被別人批評指責果種挫折感)

其實如果你囡囡可以專注做佢自己喜歡做的野,又或即使搞搞震,但老師教的佢都明白,咁應該唔係過度活躍吧??
TobiMom 寫道:
睡覺, harry 媽, 謙仔媽 ,


我個女而家係 k1 生, 但佢既行為舉止, 同你地所講既都大同小異, 老師前日同我講, 話我個女搥同學仔背脊, 我問個女點解要咁做, 佢話'唔知喎' , 老師仲話, 亞女係班上, mug 都要爭第一, 又要做最快嗰個, 老師叫我不如考慮生多個, 等佢無咁悶, 話而家我倆得一個小朋友, 難免會緃個女..

縱鬼縱馬咩, 佢無時停, 攪呢攪路, 不停咁講野, 唔願瞓覺, 成日紮紮跳, 鬧佢個陣, 就識扁咀話下次唔敢, 但轉頭又黎過...

我問個女, 點解你要咁曳呀 ? 佢話唔知

尋日餅餅湊女放學, 老師同他講, 話個女係學校mang人條辮, 所以就罰佢呢緊個星期唔准我女紮辮返學, 咁我今朝同佢講話唔紮辮, 佢哦左一聲, 因為平時一起身就要搵橡筋要紮辮返學, 到左湊佢放學個陣, 我問佢, 紮番條辮辮好無, 佢話唔紮...佢又好似知錯, 知道要受罰咁....

我頭先比 pizzle (100張) 佢砌, 唔夠10分鐘, 佢已經砌到三十幾張...

佢瞓左後, 我諗住幫佢放好d, 但整散左, 我砌左成20鐘先砌番好佢之前個d...

其實我買puzzle 比個女砌, 係想佢集中專注力, 同埋可以坐定定...

雖然老師曾經講過話我個女可能資優, 但我覺得我女似有 '過度活躍症' 多d
誰會直率地說出所認識的真實?有所認識的少數人,愚蠢地不隱蔽自己充實的心,向愚民們說明他們的感情和見識,他們總是被人磔死或燒死。 歌德 <<浮士德>>入來做下test,不同的人對事情有不同的看法和感受﹗

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Re: 個人分享﹕對付頑皮仔需要具備的是......

harry媽﹕
       哈哈,我阿仔真係有d似你阿仔,佢以前寫學校的功課也是古靈精怪,例如寫一個"好"字,佢由細至大咁寫,玩玩下﹕
[size=xx-small]好[size=x-small]好[size=medium]好[size=large]好

比我話左佢幾次先識收歛。

我又係同佢講過,佢成日咁激阿媽,阿媽會好短命,到時無人照顧到你.....但之後又害怕咁講,第日我真的有乜絕症時,佢會否賴左係自己頭上,以為真的是他害死阿媽.....所以,我忍得口都盡量唔咁樣講... [quote]
Harry媽 寫道:
睡覺,
你就好啦,個仔肯寫番靚d字,我個仔就越來越藝術了,重寫到鬼咁細粒,不過佢默書考試時又識寫番靚架喎。如你講法一樣,若下下都同佢抗爭,真係命唔長呀。有一晚我同個仔講,我問佢除
誰會直率地說出所認識的真實?有所認識的少數人,愚蠢地不隱蔽自己充實的心,向愚民們說明他們的感情和見識,他們總是被人磔死或燒死。 歌德 <<浮士德>>入來做下test,不同的人對事情有不同的看法和感受﹗

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Re: 個人分享﹕對付頑皮仔需要具備的是......

     你有無比佢睇d細路唔應該睇ge電視架?   
TobiMom 寫道:
端午節前一晚我去左飲, 到第二日, 餅餅休息, 一早落街買早餐, 個女同我講, '媽咪, 你快d話我知你去飲既事, 係點樣架, 我無理佢, 之後無耐, 佢突然間係咁笑住同我講 , ''媽咪' 爹哋去左同第二個女人結緍牙' ,
我話'你講咩話", 佢真係掩住半邊咀騎騎笑話 '爹d同個老女人去左飲酒'     

好難相信呢d 說話會出自一個 4 歲幾既小朋友口中
    
誰會直率地說出所認識的真實?有所認識的少數人,愚蠢地不隱蔽自己充實的心,向愚民們說明他們的感情和見識,他們總是被人磔死或燒死。 歌德 <<浮士德>>入來做下test,不同的人對事情有不同的看法和感受﹗

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Re: 個人分享﹕對付頑皮仔需要具備的是......

睡覺,
我最煩
當你走到無力繼續下去,當你感到寂寞困惱空虛 只要相信神隨時扶助你,願助你解開困惑拋開痛悲 當你跑到疲乏難再下去,當你感到疑惑說我是誰 只要相信神完全明白你,就讓你伸手接受他深愛你 別害怕他知你難受,擔當軟弱與困憂 不需再懼怕,耶穌必拯救,願你開口接受,張開你手 別害怕他知你難受,擔當軟弱與困憂,不需再懼怕 耶穌必拯救,讓你一生快樂展翅高飛,一個全新的你。

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Re: 個人分享﹕對付頑皮仔需要具備的是......

TobiMom
而家
當你走到無力繼續下去,當你感到寂寞困惱空虛 只要相信神隨時扶助你,願助你解開困惑拋開痛悲 當你跑到疲乏難再下去,當你感到疑惑說我是誰 只要相信神完全明白你,就讓你伸手接受他深愛你 別害怕他知你難受,擔當軟弱與困憂 不需再懼怕,耶穌必拯救,願你開口接受,張開你手 別害怕他知你難受,擔當軟弱與困憂,不需再懼怕 耶穌必拯救,讓你一生快樂展翅高飛,一個全新的你。

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Re: 個人分享﹕對付頑皮仔需要具備的是......

Harry 媽, 睡覺

我個女人前人後兩個樣架, 有時都覺得恐怖    
佢一出屋企問口, 由等lift 到離開大廈前, 一見到人就好有禮貎叫哥哥姐姐,姨姨, 叔叔, 個個聽到都讚佢乖, 有禮貎, 但一返到學校, 好似變左身咁, 不停咁跑黎跑去, 又係咁唱歌, 佢有佢叫, 我叫極都唔睬我,當我透明, 返到屋企, 見到我最忙個陣, 佢就係咁叫我攞呢樣, 攞個樣比佢, 專吼我傾電話個陣, 就會走埋黎, 騷擾我, (平時唔比佢做既野, 就會係呢個時侯, 問我可以咁咁咁, 又咁咁咁), 佢知我會打發佢唔好嘈住我講電話, 知我會就範比佢做, 唉, 我真係甘拜下風...   

仲有, 我個女係屋企同我&餅餅講野個陣, 都會唔該前, 唔該後架, 你話佢無禮貎咩, 又唔係, 總之, 就精到c ...

我女而家先 4 歲 半, 仲有排攪對抗呀    

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Re: 個人分享﹕對付頑皮仔需要具備的是......

睡覺

我想問係邊個可以睇到你所講既 '九型人格' 呀

    

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Re: 個人分享﹕對付頑皮仔需要具備的是......

各位,睇下以下好似好長ge文章啦﹗
究竟你個活潑兒係資優定係過度活躍?定係兩樣都有?
好似話,其實真正過度活躍的孩子不多啊﹗

耐心d睇啦,我英文咁c都睇哂喇﹗(哈,以前都post過)
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Gifted or ADD?

Parents, if your child seems bright then please, please, PLEASE have a qualified psychologist evaluate him or her for giftedness BEFORE you accept a diagnosis of ADD and medication.

Gifted children and adults are at high risk for being identified as ADD. Most people, including most medical professionals, do not realize giftedness is often associated with the following behaviors:
underachieving , anger and frustration , high energy, intensity, fidgeting, impulsivity
individualistic, nonconforming, stubborn, disorganization, sloppy, poor handwriting
forgetful, absentminded, daydreams, emotional, moody, low interest in details

Moreover, sometimes adults do not realize a child is gifted because they don't really know what "gifted" means. Or they may believe a child is both ADD and gifted. As a result, many gifted children these days are being medicated for a brain defect they probably don't have.

Most people have an incorrect view of gifted children and adults. The"gifted" are supposed to be model students, teaching themselves how to spell and perfect their grammar, win spelling bees, have perfect social skills and become neurosurgeons. This is true of SOME gifted children
and adults. Many others, however, act out and space out in boring school settings, and their increasing anger and frustration may lead to oppositional behavior and underachievement. They may have sloppy handwriting because of fast thought processes, miss details, and be unorganized and forgetful. Gifted adults are not always easy to spot, either. They are housewives, teachers, and carpenters, and they may not even realize they are gifted. Some even believe they are stupid.

There is some evidence that as many as half of all kids with IQs above 130 get below average grades, and in one study 13% of high school drop outs were gifted. In another study, a full 25% of children diagnosed with ADHD tested so high in creativity tests they qualified for state scholarships. I recently spoke with a consultant for the gifted who said about half of the gifted boys referred to her had been told they were probably ADD. Complicating matters is the uneven types of intelligence many people have. People labeled ADD often have a "visual/spatial" type of intelligence that confuses many teachers and parents. They might have trouble reading or spelling but have outstanding abstract reasoning abilities and become bored very quickly in traditional schools.

Proponents of the gifted assert that it is usually problems with the school environment that are to blame for behavior problems and underachievement, not any problem with the child. You will not hear this from school officials or most psychiatrists, however. They believe it must be a brain defect.
Parents, if your child seems bright then please, please, PLEASE have a qualified person evaluate him or her for giftedness BEFORE you accept a diagnosis of ADD and medication.

Gifted children MUST have an education that fits their needs. If they don't, they should be expected to act out or space out, and it is NOT their fault! Placing them on medication so that they can tolerate a more boring school is absurd. There are much better options available, such as
home schooling, alternative schools and grade skipping.

How is "Gifted" Defined? There is no consensus as to how "gifted" should be defined, except everyone seems to agree that people with an IQ of 130 or greater are definitely gifted. But people with lower overall IQs can also be gifted by other avenues:

Creative-Gifted: Demonstrated creativity or high score on the Torrence Creativity test (above an IQ of 120 there is no correlation between IQ and creativity scores);
Demonstration of exceptional skills in a domain, like math or art;
Visual-Spatial thinkers are often gifted but may score below their actual level of intelligence on IQ tests (very high abstract reasoning, visual-spatial skills);
Sometimes "gifted" is defined as the smartest two percent, which correlates to an IQ of 125.

The fuzzy nature of the term "gifted" is apparent when one considers an idiot savant who cannot handle simple math but is a gifted pianist.

The IQ cutoff of 130 is completely arbitrary. It's not like one child with an IQ of 130 is gifted rather than ADD and the next child with an IQ of 125 is "disordered" simply because he does not meet the threshold for giftedness. A child with an IQ of 120 may be considered "bright" or "superior" rather than gifted, but is just as likely to be bored by a school ciriculum designed for kids with an IQ of 85.

Of special interest here is the concept of the visual/spatial thinker.
These people are at high risk for an ADD diagnosis and are also likely to be gifted. They are often brighter than their IQ scores. Visual/spatial thinkers often have outstanding abilities in abstract reasoning, visual/spatial skills, and problem solving. However, they have relative weaknesses in processing auditory information and sequencing, and are often poor at spelling and phonics. Such people are also called "right-brained." Visual/spatial children are at high risk for school problems
because they become bored very quickly and dislike repetition and drills.
They are likely to act out or space out in school. Such children often need to be accelerated or homeschooled. The Gifted Development Center has done quite a bit of research on visual-spatial learners and has some excellent information at www.gifteddevelopment.com/VSL_List.htm.

Why do Gifted people act the way they do? One reason is that gifted people become bored easily in settings that average people find tolerable (like school or work). Boredom leads to restlessness, and restlessness leads to all sorts of problems. Fast thought processes can lead not only to boredom but to poor handwriting, errors in simple work, disorganization and sloppiness.

In addition, brighter people tend to exhibit more "overexcitabilities" than average people. This has been well demonstrated in studies. The five overexcitabilities that have been identified are:

Overexcitibilities Negative Perspective
Physical hyperactive, fidgety, restless, impulsive
Emotional moody, temperamental, prone to depression and anxiety
Intellectual head in the clouds, inattentive to surroundings
Sensual picky eater, over-reacts to physical discomforts
Imaginational daydreams, inattentive

For more information about the concept of overexcitabilities see Overexcitabilities Used to Predict Giftedness.

Getting an Assessment:
Your school system may have some resources available as a start. If you use them, you must be on your guard, because serious mistakes can be made. Of special concern is the inability of school to identify very gifted student, such as those with IQs of 160, or 170. Such students are more
common than most people realize and require VERY different schooling. A child with an IQ of 170 is completely different from a child with an IQ of 130. I recommend that parents go beyond the school system if at all possible.

Look for a QUALIFIED psychologist. You can start with a list maintained by Hoagies Gifted Education Page at www.hoagiesgifted.org/psych.htm.
An appropriate assessment is going to cost you some money. BUT, your child's future depends on it, so open up your wallet and start counting.
Make sure the consultant knows about creative/gifted characteristics and visual/spatial learning styles, because these are common with kids labeled ADD. If your child will be tested for creativity (recommended for ADD children) the Torrence Test for creativity should be used.
An outside consultant is far more likely to give you an unbiased opinion about what you need to do for your child's education. Most people associated with the school are more interested in preserving the status quo at the school rather than in helping your child. School personnel are extremely unlikely to advocated grade skipping, for example.

Grade Skipping:
This is an excellent option for some kids, but you can expect the school to oppose it because of ignorance and misplaced egalitarianism. Children without any serious existing social problems should adjust quite well. I have found excellent information about grade skipping at Hoagies Gifted,
including information about studies (all studies support grade skipping) and how to put together a portfolio in support of a grade skip. Parents of underachieving gifted students may have an especially difficult time convincing the school their child deserves a skip, since personnel tend to
believe such children don't deserve to be accelerated.

A very important point with grade skipping is that it is done on a trial basis for six to ten weeks. It will be easy to see if it's not working, and the child is simply place back in his or her former level.

Another method of acceleration is to allow a child to attend higher grades for certain subjects. For example, a 2nd grade child who is ahead in math, but not in reading, would visit a 3rd grade classroom for math.

Enrichment Programs
School "Gifted" programs usually are in the form of enrichment rather than acceleration. These programs have drawbacks and are not usually as successful as acceleration. Such programs can backfire on the students because they are identified publicly as gifted and may become afraid of
failing when they get back to their regular class. Or, they may feel like they are being punished for being smart by having to do more work. An excellent essay on the subject posted at Hoagies Gifted is "Horizontal Enrichment vs. Vertical Acceleration."

Alternative Education:
Homeschooling is by far the most popular option and growing rapidly in popularity. This is an outstanding option for parents who can do it.
People worry WAY too much about "socialization." Kids these days don't learn socialization skills at school, they learn anti-socialization skills. Like teasing, bullying, and how to form clicks and exclude anyone who doesn't "fit in". The school-yard and bus-ride pecking order is similar to "Lord of the Flies." Often gifted children and children identified as ADD take the brunt of this sort of abuse and may be traumatized for life. There are plenty of socialization opportunities for homeschoolers, including sports, clubs, playing with friends, camps, volunteering, etc.

Homeschooled children are, on average, ahead of their peers academically, often by several years. And they spend less time studying because there is less time wasted. Homeschooled children are eagerly accepted by colleges, where they perform BETTER than other children.
Gifted children usually do very well when they are homeschooled. Studies are showing that homeschooled children are getting a much better education that kids in the public schools (especially in the U.S., partly because standards in American public schools are so low.)

The specific requirements for homeschooling vary. In the U.S., check with your state. In some regions, children are allowed to attend public school on a part-time basis.

There is a tremendous amount of information about homeschooling on the Internet, and there is no reason for me to duplicate that. An excellent website to start with is The Homeschool Legal Defense Association. You can find regional requirements from this website.

Be Cautious With Labels
Labeling a child "gifted" can cause problems. Children who are told they succeed because they are smart often fear failure. They feel they are judged by their level of intelligence and success is due not to effort, but to intelligence. Failure means they may not be as smart as everyone
thinks. Therefore, they may avoid trying anything unless they are certain to succeed.

It is much better to tell a child he or she is being advanced because of hard work, because that encourages more effort in the future. I tell my son he is a better reader because he reads more than his friends, not because he is smarter. And that he is better in math because he works with numbers more than his friends. For more information see the article "raise Children for Effort, Not Intelligence, Study Says."

Can't Someone Be Both Gifted and ADD?
If by "ADD" you mean they meet the diagnostic criteria for ADD, then absolutely. But that doesn't mean they have a brain defect. Remember that ADD is really just a description of behavior that MAY OR MAY NOT be caused by a brain defect.

The environmental causes of brain defects leading to ADD include things like lead poisoning and exposure to drugs as a fetus. These factors also reduce IQ. So it seems rather improbable that a high-IQ person also has such a brain defect. Not impossible, but not likely, either.

You cannot tell whether ADD-like behavior in a gifted person is normal gifted behavior or caused by a brain defect. It's simply not possible. I've read that you can try and identify ADD in gifted people based on whether the gifted person tends to finish the projects they start. I disagree.
There is natural temperament variation with regard to convergent and divergent thinking. Divergent thinking is perfectly normal and is related to creative thinking and disorganization. Under MBTI temperament theory, "erceivers" prefer to start projects rather than finish them, and
tend to be disorganized and run late for appointments. A gifted Perceiver with overexcitabilities will have a very strong drive to start new projects.
Finishing projects and not starting so many new ones is definitely a learned skill for such people.

The bottom line is that you cannot tell if a gifted person's behavior is due to a brain defect. So why identify them as having a brain defect?

If Meds Work, Then Why Not Use Them?
Stimulant medications allow gifted children and adults to attend to things they otherwise find too boring. That is exactly how the medications feel, too. They make boring things interesting. Like organizing toys instead of learning how to play chess, practicing addition instead of learning
multiplication, or filing papers instead of troubleshooting coorporate problems.

Stimulants allow gifted people to thrive in environments in which they were not meant to be. A child who is teaching himself division should not be required to spend endless hours in school practicing 5 + 4. An adult with abstract reasoning abilities in the 99th percentile should not try and spend four hours filing. The solution to problem behavior in the Gifted is to change the environment, not to change the Gifted person's brain.

Medications DO work, if your goal is to shove a square peg into a round hole. But is that worthy goal? Why can't the Gifted be different? Why should they have to pretend to be like everyone else? Why should a child with an IQ of 140 be forced to twiddle his thumbs for six hours a day in
order to please the teacher, and be happy about it? Does this make sense?


誰會直率地說出所認識的真實?有所認識的少數人,愚蠢地不隱蔽自己充實的心,向愚民們說明他們的感情和見識,他們總是被人磔死或燒死。 歌德 <<浮士德>>入來做下test,不同的人對事情有不同的看法和感受﹗

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Re: 個人分享﹕對付頑皮仔需要具備的是......

好建議睇以下的一本書 ﹕

Raising Your Spirited Child

a guide for parents whose child is more intense, sensitive, perceptive, persistent, energetic

BY  MARY SHEEDY KURCINKA

查公共圖書館,有得借架。

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節錄其中以下一段﹕

Some children have been observed to sit quietly for long periods of time. Other children are always on the move.

Many spirited kids are energetic; however, not all of them are climbers and leapers. Some merely seem to possess incredible energy. They don’t walk, they run. They can’t pass through a door frame without jumping up to touch the header. They fall out of their chairs at school and at the dinner table. Their milk is spilled at every meal as they wiggle and twist in their chairs. It isn’t that they aren’t paying attention or trying to follow the rules., they simply have a need to move. A long trip in the car can be a nightmare unless frequent stops are taken to let this child release the energy pumping through his veins.

According to Dr. Shapiro, energy levels are also a major factor in ADHD. Actually, it is not the amount of activity or energy that is the concern, but the focus of that action. For six-year-old who wiggles around and jumps in and out of his chair while he completes his worksheet is a child with an active temperament. The child who pings around the room and never completes his worksheet may be experiencing ADHD.

It isn’t possible for even seasoned professionals to make a diagnosis of ADHD simply by observing a child. If you are concerned that your child may be experiencing ADHD it is important that you have the child undergo a full physical and psychological review.

If your child is temperamentally energetic you can expect that he will need to move. You can predict it and use this information to plan for his success.

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其實我都係一個 spirited person黎.....
誰會直率地說出所認識的真實?有所認識的少數人,愚蠢地不隱蔽自己充實的心,向愚民們說明他們的感情和見識,他們總是被人磔死或燒死。 歌德 <<浮士德>>入來做下test,不同的人對事情有不同的看法和感受﹗
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