[英文好，中文不重要」絕對能成立?

猴子爸

中文只是合格而英數取得excellent,有可能派往band 3學校吗？
http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum ... page%3D1&page=2

Fong23fong

猴子爸 發表於 12-4-11 17:28
中文只是合格而英數取得excellent,有可能派往band 3學校吗？
http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum.php?mod=vi ...

我想在大抽奬時，主要是看banding、選校策略和運氣。

cellon

猴子爸 發表於 12-4-11 17:28
[英文好，中文不重要」絕對能成立?
中文只是合格而英數取得excellent,有可能派往band 3學校吗？
http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum.php?mod=vi ...

>> [英文好，中文不重要」絕對能成立?
不成立。


>> 中文只是合格而英數取得excellent,有可能派往band 3學校吗？
中，英，數三科佔呈分試的比重十分高（x9），
若中文只是合格，絕對會影響全級名次，因而影響Banding.
會否派往band 3學校？要看你子女的Banding 和 你怎樣填表。

Yanamami

其實呢個post係猴子爸&spantan辯題續集.  全題應想講:  英文excellent, 但中文只係普通應付到日常交往, 在社會上發展有利嗎( 唔只限於升學, 仲有求職, 向國際發展....)?  他倆其實position不同, 一個是IS條path, 另一個係local school.  所以立場不同, 講唔埋柵, 但真實各有各point, 都唔錯得哂.

上集在此:

http://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2371837&extra=page%3D1

cy101

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ic , 原來有上集!!

Snakemama

看了上集。覺得都幾精闢。但我還是持同一宗旨：中文或英文好？抑還是要兩種語文都一樣那麼好？自己喜歡和有能力就好了。不必想太多。

smallfoothk

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朋友的一樣,英很好,中合格,不選大抽獎,讀國際學校最實實在在明智决定,一般school要中英數要好,數可追,中英較難追得好.

ANChan59

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Straight to the point.
The best is master two languages and three literates, if not either English or Chinese as major, then both are poor like most students in HK.

cherubic

在香港工作,不會中文是壞處多於好處,已是不爭的事實。最理想當然是中英文也不錯,一般香港的學生(指近年畢業的）英文都不夠好。英文要好，唯一的方法是每天要用它及對象是英美等人，小朋友如有這類玩伴，便會學很好，所以在國際學校讀書的學生英文很好，但中文就會是間題。我覺得如果不能兩者都好，至少其中一種要精。

JustAParent

cherubic 發表於 12-4-14 22:35
在香港工作,不會中文是壞處多於好處,已是不爭的事實。最理想當然是中英文也不錯,一般香港的學生(指近年畢業 ...

樓主原意是中文不好, 不是不懂。

從功利出發, 英數很出色(上中學後當然還有其他科目), 中文只要不肥佬, 我看不到上中學, 大學有什麼困難.  如果家長們離校已久, 我可以告訢你, 近幾年香港三大學很多學科對語文的入學要求都降低, 特別是理/工程學院.  工作上, 你自己想一下, 上一次執筆寫中文是何時？我本人工作上就從未寫過一個中文字，現在連說也少了。除了某些行業，如記者，老師等，可否告訢我有多少行業是要很強中文能力的？引用電影那些年類似的話「我跟你保證，十年後我中文再差，我也可以活得好好的」。

然而，不能任何事都只從功利出發，如果這樣，大部分學科都不用讀了。我唯一的考慮是，連中文文史哲也學不好，你還有什麼資格叫自己中國人！所以，學好中文絕對重要。

cherubic

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I might not be very good in expressing myself.  I meant students who are not very good at Chinese.  Yes, I am not very familiar with the current unversity entrance requirement, but what I am more concern with is the real Chinese standard of a student instead of his exam result.  I have been working in a feld, which has been dominated by expat, for a number of years.  I have seen the gradual importance of Chinese.  The reason is because we sometimes need to interact with PRC people.  The last email I wrote in Chinese was three days ago.

Kittymummy

如果你問我邊樣重要，好肯定係英文. 但係香港讀書，中文係主科，冇辦法. 但我做野10幾年，冇一份文件係中文. 但問題有冇必要中文學得如此深？我已經連小六中文都攪吾掂，唉！我覺得中文合格已經ok了！

MC1128

以下節錄自一名DGS學生家長的blog(希望她不介意)

Now that Harrow is coming to Hong Kong and it is going to be operated as a co-educational school. Those barristers who had been educated in the UK and benefited from its system are really excited about this news, including me.

Senior Counsel A:  Harrow is coming to Hong Kong, it is going to be the best international school in Hong Kong in no time I bet.

Senior Counsel B: I heard the queue is mounting up already even before its application was granted.

SC A: I am not surprised, it is going to be a co-ed as well, unlike the one in the UK, only for boys.

SC B: It is quite expensive though, it is going to cost about $20,000 per month.

SC A: It is still a lot cheaper than sending them to the UK which would cost twice as much.

SC B: That is true.

SC A: I am tempted to send my girl there, she is now 5.

SC B: Me too, I also want my son to go there.

Suddenly a District Court judge walked in and said hello to the SCs and then asked what they were talking about so in term they told her.

District Court Judge: Are they going to have Chinese teaching there?

SC A: Probably some yes, but do not count on it since it is still a international school.

DCJ: If that is the case then I donot undertand why you want to send your kids there. Chinese is getting more and more important nowadays and not knowing it would definitely deprive your kids a lot of opportunities in the future. Why on earth do you want to pay so much to deprive your kids the chance of learning Chinese?

Snakemama

其實我們依家所有的着眼點都放在将來謀生的問題上,所以一定要在兩種語文中分出高下。正如我在前面的回覆所指有能力、有興趣的話何不兩者兼得呢？因為兩種語文帶給我們的樂趣都不同。

kennytung

相信大家都明白二文三語的重要性，況且香港已回歸祖國十多年，中文的應用愈來愈普及！無可否認英文是國際共通語言，但中文和普通話亦不可忽視！

Charlotte_mom

Kittymummy 發表於 12-4-15 21:27
如果你問我邊樣重要，好肯定係英文. 但係香港讀書，中文係主科，冇辦法. 但我做野10幾年，冇一份文件係中文 ...

十幾年前大學畢業, 第一份工係big 4 acct firm, 幾乎一粒中文字都唔駛用(除左份form上面個中文名), 做到呢份, 有投資o係大陸, 連美國佬cfo都要識流利普通話(唔怕羞講句好過我), 仲識睇中文, 唔識中文既ceo, 真係好慘(佢自己都話, without a translator, i understand nothing)
時移世易, 公司轉大陸國企股東, ceo無得留低(專業人才又點? 有經驗又點? 大陸大把), 所有文件全部bi-lingual, 除左繁體, 連簡體都要識埋, 我撈個秘書仔都要3頭6臂, 真係聽說讀寫兩文三語瓣瓣掂

近年, 見到以前最top成績至做到既工, 例如i bank, prof firm, 而家出job既"o靚", 好多都係普通話人(係native普通話+唔錯英文), 或者十幾廿年前, 英文好真係掂晒, 今時今日我唔會咁講.........

motherotk

Over 15 years ago, in some government offices, those non-Chinese government officers could not stay with the jobs if they could not speak and write Chinese..no matter how "professional" they were in their work. They were hired at the begining with good benefits from foreign countries.

HK is going through a social and political change, including people and government's perception on languages. In the past, the court use English, and needed translators to translate Chinese to English even all parties in the court room were Chinese speaking people. Now, most government offices uses both Chinese and English. Bilingual competence is expected, I believe.

ANChan59

In business circles, so many European and American parents told me that their kids took Chinese as 2nd or 3rd languages. It's tough but become basic in coming decades.

I don't understand why some parents still prefer English and drop Chinese even they are Chinese.

JustAParent

近年的漢語熱，致外國人爭相學習，不過是不合理高回報下產生的扭曲需求，不長久的。你看國內一些人或公司的暴發戶式揮霍，如果可持續，諾貝爾經濟學獎一定要頒給他們。外國人叫子女為將來謀生學漢語，是錯買不合理估值的期貨了。英文是國際語言，一定要學好；中文是母語，當然也重要，除此之外，還要其他理由嗎？