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32340
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發表於 13-4-14 14:50 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 shadeslayer 於 13-4-14 14:51 編輯
HKTHK 發表於 13-4-14 01:07
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Thanks, actually a very readable piece.  I actually don't see anything wron ...

Very readable from what perspective?  Yourself, band 1 students, band 3 students?


If you think every HK secondary school student can do well with this piece, then yes  your expectation is too high. HK has band 1 to band 3 students and you think band 3 students can do well with this piece?  Although I think band 1 student should have no problems. If the top 1/3 of HK's secondary students have problem with this piece, we have a problem. May be half of the band 2 students

have no problem too.

Is it too difficult as a DSE English comprehension?  No I don't think so.
The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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發表於 13-4-14 16:28 |只看該作者

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Band 3, and bottom half Band 2 students won't take B2 anyway.



God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

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發表於 13-4-14 16:48 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 JustAParent 於 13-4-14 16:52 編輯
ANChan59 發表於 13-4-14 16:28
Band 3, and bottom half Band 2 students won't take B2 anyway.

The Terra Cotta Warriors article is in Part A.

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發表於 13-4-14 17:04 |只看該作者
JustAParent 發表於 13-4-14 16:48
The Terra Cotta Warriors article is in Part A.
好多考生見part A 難, 以為B2 更難, 唔敢揀, 點知後來先至發覺B2 唔係咁深, 比A 還要淺, 後悔.........

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發表於 13-4-14 17:12 |只看該作者
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Thanks for your reminder.
God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.


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發表於 13-4-14 17:40 |只看該作者
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I am more confused after reading what you wrote.  The piece is readable and someone graduating from high school should be able to comprehend most of it so it is a good piece for DSE test.  Of course not everyone will do well on a test like this and may not even know what the subject matter is.  I am also sure there are also students who understand all that is written or may even have read the article before.  
今日佳句: 我以往也以為國際板的家長也有質素,但現在才知deal with 一些麻煩家長也不易!  

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發表於 13-4-14 17:42 |只看該作者
Annie123 發表於 13-4-14 17:24
terracotta  是種 clay,西方國家也有用作做煮食的 pots。warrior 是武士。兩個字擺埋一齊,再看看圖,可 ...
"外籍學生不識兵馬俑,真定假?"   網上看到的, 沒法證實真假, 但我以前工作的關係有接觸一些印巴籍的學生, 佢地對中國文化真的所知不多, 亦冇興趣知, 不識兵馬俑也有可能的..........

"舊年的文章題材是甚麼?" 我也沒看過, 不過小兒上年考完話不難, 真正考之前考試局出了一份練習卷, 果份就比較深.........

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發表於 13-4-14 17:53 |只看該作者
Annie123 發表於 13-4-14 17:36
看了 part A 文章,對 band 3  學生應該就幾難。
不知舊年文章是選甚麼題材?
如果學生較習慣看一些較生活 ...
網上看學生的反應是, 今年的文章比上年深了些, 生字也多些, 但問題比上年問得直接.............

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發表於 13-4-14 18:28 |只看該作者

引用:回復+shadeslayer+的帖子 I+am+more+confu

原帖由 HKTHK 於 13-04-14 發表
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I am more confused after reading what you wrote.  The piece is readable and ...
Shouldn't anyone graduating from high school be able to comprehend most of this?

Xxxx

I was responding to your comment above.  That view being too optimistic. But it does not mean this is too difficult for DSE.



The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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發表於 13-4-15 10:23 |只看該作者
其实“深”定“浅”是相对性的。请问有没有高人知道,此篇文章,如果跟美国SAT和GCE A-Level的文章相比,是差不多,深些,浅些?


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發表於 13-4-15 10:55 |只看該作者
Annie123 發表於 13-4-15 10:35
如果可以看看舊年的卷,和以往出過的官方 sample paper,就可以看看今年的文章是否太深。
我個人覺得應該 ...
上年考試前考試局出的練習卷都幾深, 小兒做都肥左, 佢學校老師本來叫學生一定要揀b2, 但練習卷出左之後都改口叫學生睇情況, 可能要揀b1, 但真正考時又唔係好深..........

由於練習卷同今年都比較深, 估計以後都唔會太淺...........深都冇所謂, 學生可以準備和操練, 最怕時深時淺..........

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發表於 13-4-15 14:13 |只看該作者

引用:Quote:Annie123+發表於+13-4-15+10:35+如果

原帖由 小彬彬 於 13-04-15 發表
上年考試前考試局出的練習卷都幾深, 小兒做都肥左, 佢學校老師本來叫學生一定要揀b2, 但練習卷出左之後都改 ...
係,一日廿四個鐘都吾夠用。而家我女中一,已經要陪佢睇報紙,而家發現連National Geographic都要睇,可能過兩年仲要面對航天科學園藝烹飪天文文章衝擊



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annie40  提起兴趣去看,就可以了! 有兴趣抽看就得了  發表於 13-4-16 17:41

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發表於 13-4-15 15:00 |只看該作者
All English teachers ask students to read English books, newspapers, magazines, listen to and watch English programmes or films. But very few do these regularly and parents complain there are not enough exercises for their kids to do.

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發表於 13-4-15 15:06 |只看該作者
Charlotte_mom 發表於 13-4-15 14:13
係,一日廿四個鐘都吾夠用。而家我女中一,已經要陪佢睇報紙,而家發現連National Geographic都要 ...
衣家擺明最重要是core 果4科, 4科都要花好多時問攪的, 只好放少d 時間係electives 科目了......

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發表於 13-4-16 10:03 |只看該作者

引用:其实“深”定“浅”是相对性的。请问有没有

原帖由 猴子爸 於 13-04-15 發表
其实“深”定“浅”是相对性的。请问有没有高人知道,此篇文章,如果跟美国SAT和GCE A-Level的文章相比,是 ...
I don't know much about SAT and A level. But if you imagine a native English speaking kid studying in a decent school. From what age will he or she able able to understand well this Terra cotta article?  I bet about 10 years old, give and take about couple of years.



The more bizzare a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.

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發表於 13-4-16 10:08 |只看該作者
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Yes, for someone with a reading habit and diversity in reading materials, should be before end of primary school
今日佳句: 我以往也以為國際板的家長也有質素,但現在才知deal with 一些麻煩家長也不易!  

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發表於 13-4-16 10:39 |只看該作者

引用:回復+shadeslayer+的帖子 Yes,+for+someon

原帖由 HKTHK 於 13-04-16 發表
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Yes, for someone with a reading habit and diversity in reading materials, s ...
Few HK students have genuine interests in reading up to junior secondary, and fewer have good exposure to English in primary schools, so I think only a small percentage of HK local students can reach this level by P6.

But for native English students, in relation to SAT and A level, a majority of them should reach this comprehension level in primary schools.



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