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KikiDaddy 發表於 25-7-31 18:47
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You are talking about funding, government funded or not.

A local ib student will compete with a student taking gaokao during the admission process only if the latter qualifies as a local student as well. A local ib student and a non local gaokao student will be in 2 non jupas pools - the former local non jupas while the latter non local non jupas.

The following was a lawmaker's question regarding admission of dse and local non jupas students. You can also have a look at the appendices to see the allocation in prior years.

If, after reading these details, you still think your understanding of the admission process is correct, feel free.

https://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/201807/04/P2018070400722.htm?fontSize=1

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poonseelai 發表於 25-7-31 20:20
A local ib student will compete with a student taking gaokao during the admission process only if t ...
會否掛名在香港, 其實在深圳,,? 在香港掛名只是為了學席

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dingyan 發表於 25-7-31 19:28
因為唔明,所以胡亂揣測。新規似乎只要求子女兩年學籍,對父母是否居港是否在港工作似乎冇乜要求?
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本市領導主觀認為,未滿18歲留港2年,父母必留港陪讀?
「道高一尺 魔高一丈」,看來會衍生寄養家庭/服務的生意!

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KikiDaddy 發表於 25-7-31 20:04
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Any reason for the students reside in HK travelling to Shenzhen for DSE cla ...
唔明,香港有校舍,點解要日日過深圳上課?

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73662710 發表於 25-7-31 20:51
會否掛名在香港, 其實在深圳,,? 在香港掛名只是為了學席

好問題, 如果學生能出示在港日校全日制學生身份, 無離港不多於90天要求, 原則上可以在內地生活, 每日來港返學, 如果係日校生身份但唔來港又得唔得?

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Vincegogogo 發表於 25-7-31 19:43
啊,點解cue我。。。我無感想,對於補習社學生來講,成本高咗,但應該好多人接受到,也有人接受唔到就轉行 ...

好有效率

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本帖最後由 retriever 於 25-7-31 21:13 編輯
KikiDaddy 發表於 25-7-31 18:47
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You are talking about funding, government funded or not.

其實版友既意思係:
就如去等位食飯,同一條隊排(NJ),有人要2人台(資助),有人要4人台(非資助),都係睇咩客俾咩台。

即係:排2人台既客,唔會被排4人台既客競爭。

除非。。。除非餐廳老闆為了討好客人,特意拼2張2人台俾4人台客。

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poonseelai 發表於 25-7-31 21:02
好問題, 如果學生能出示在港日校全日制學生身份, 無離港不多於90天要求, 原則上可以在內地生活, 每日來港 ...
每日往返深圳,如何滿足年內不離港90天?

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retriever 發表於 25-7-31 20:59
唔明,香港有校舍,點解要日日過深圳上課?

可能原因 (純估計):

深圳補習繼續用中文和簡體字?
香港崇正用英文, 繁體?

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retriever 發表於 25-7-31 21:09
每日往返深圳,如何滿足年內不離港90天?

本帖最後由 poonseelai 於 25-7-31 21:40 編輯

90天離港限制係適用於未能出示本港日校全日制學生, 只要滿足(1)日校生全日制學生; or (2) 離港不多於90天

如果即日來回, 算唔算離港?

香港薪俸稅有一個60天exemption, 如果一個外國人來港工作一年少於60天, 符合條款可以完全不用交香港税, 法庭案例計算60天時 “part of a day is a day”, 如用這個邏輯, 一天內只要曾在香港已算在港一天

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retriever 發表於 25-7-31 20:56
本市領導主觀認為,未滿18歲留港2年,父母必留港陪讀?
「道高一尺 魔高一丈」,看來會衍生寄養家庭/服務的 ...

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https://m.sohu.com/media/795962

https://m.sohu.com/a/916711935_795962

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學費

目前預計費用約16-19萬港幣/學年。

正課時間:8:00-15:00

課後托管:16:00-20:00

住宿:計劃與酒店合作 (2人一間,預計10000/月/人,另收)

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retriever 發表於 25-7-31 20:56
本市領導主觀認為,未滿18歲留港2年,父母必留港陪讀?
「道高一尺 魔高一丈」,看來會衍生寄養家庭/服務的 ...
如果硬要父母留港, 但又揾是到野做, 或人工重少过向大陸时, 即迫佢地重要唔要个HKID, 咁如果一半人唔要, 条人头數咪少左好多?

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本帖最後由 KikiDaddy 於 25-8-1 06:22 編輯
poonseelai 發表於 25-7-31 20:20
A local ib student will compete with a student taking gaokao during the admission process only if t ...

As I said in my previous reply, funding and admission are two different concepts.

It is crystal clear that the 15,000 UGC-funded places are reserved for local students, no matter via JUPAS and Non JUPAS, quoted from your link: -

“The UGC Notes on Procedures clearly state that UGC-funded universities enjoy autonomy in the development of curricula and academic standards, selection of staff and students, initiation and conduct of research, internal allocation of resources, etc., and they are accountable for their decisions in these matters. On the principles of fairness and merit-based selection,....”

"In other words, the 15 000 UGC-funded first-year-first-degree intake places each year must be used for admitting local students including non-JUPAS local students. As such, non-JUPAS local students would not take up the places used for admission of non-local students, and vice versa."

However, JUPAS and non JUPAS are two totally different admission processes. JUPAS is basically for DSE students (local students after the policy clarification) and the competition for admission is among local DSE students. Non JUPAS (local and International) is for all students other than local DSE students including DSS schools IB/AL students, HK IS students, local students studied overseas (e.g. UK AL, China Goakao), mainland D/S NPR students, TTPS dependents not qualified as local students and international students.

Even though the local Non JUPAS students are eligible for the 15,000 UGC-funded places equally as the JUPAS students (there is no quota allocated between NJ and J local students), whether they can be admitted to the universities depending on the competition with other NJ / International applicants mentioned above. With the new definition of local students, the popularity of DSE among mainland students, and promotion of HK as an education hub, I can anticipate more students will compete among the NJ / International admission (this is just my personal opinion, of course). That's why I said the competition will be intensified.

The increase of 6 000 places from the 40% cap are for non local students which cannot benefit local students via NJ. It is clearly stated by EDB that quota for local and non local students are seperated.

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poonseelai 發表於 25-7-31 21:02
好問題, 如果學生能出示在港日校全日制學生身份, 無離港不多於90天要求, 原則上可以在內地生活, 每日來港 ...
Such an strategy  was extremely common in the Mainland in the past, but rare nowadays.
Studentship in Tibet, but study in other province with better educational resources. Then going back to Tiber for a short period of time and took Faikao there.


Analogy: studentship in HK, but .......

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73662710 發表於 25-7-31 23:15
Such an strategy  was extremely common in the Mainland in the past, but rare nowadays.
Studentship i ...

是否因為戶籍制度?好似考生要在戶籍所在地考高考

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Vincegogogo 發表於 25-7-31 19:43
啊,點解cue我。。。我無感想,對於補習社學生來講,成本高咗,但應該好多人接受到,也有人接受唔到就轉行 ...

有人講摘星在騙人的。在他們香港校區讀,很多老師沒有資質,在香港教書屬違法,而且香港校區學額很少,成本倍增,粗算下來,至少要30萬一年,而且必須今年9月入讀中四中五才能滿足新政要求。如在內地讀摘星,住在香港,就不符合在香港居住兩年定義。新定義只允許學生每年90天不在香港,入境處定義是少於90✖️24小時不在港,如在內地上學,就不能滿足要求。現時只將跨境生列為特例。

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UniKitty 發表於 25-8-1 00:16
有人講摘星在騙人的。在他們香港校區讀,很多老師沒有資質,在香港教書屬違法,而且香港校區學額很少,成 ...

那裡看到90x24小時?我嘗試找未找到

如果即日來回, 是否計離港?

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可參考入境處對於永居申請計算方法,通常要求申請人每年多於180天在港,即日往返按照在港小時計算。

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本帖最後由 KikiDaddy 於 25-8-1 06:23 編輯
KikiDaddy 發表於 25-7-31 22:38
As I said in my previous reply, funding and admission are two different concepts.

It is crystal cl ...

From the data shown in Annex 1: -

https://gia.info.gov.hk/general/201807/04/P2018070400722_287506_1_1530701669595.pdf

You can see both HKU and CU show a trend of increasing proprtion of non local students admitted via NJ. Local students need to compete with mainland and international students for admission, particularly those holding the same qualifications like IB/AL.

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UniKitty 發表於 25-8-1 00:16
有人講摘星在騙人的。在他們香港校區讀,很多老師沒有資質,在香港教書屬違法,而且香港校區學額很少,成 ...
不用在意一家機構。
摘星的成績我當他是真,能證明的是 全國篩選的願意讀dse的學霸,能通過8-10個月時間從高考轉軌dse中文卷,除英文外,可能取到好成績。僅此而已。


個人愚見,這些機構的套利行為,對dse考試沒有任何正面影響。

成績好重要,但是香港中小學的全人教育理念得到保持是重要的,客觀事實就是 不是每個學生都能取得好的考試成績,但這不代表他們長大成人後無法實現個人目標,貢獻社會。

不希望看到一堆賺快錢的機構影響和破壞全人教育這個理念。所以摘星的香港校區即使免費給我,我都不會去讀。



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