協恩轉直資 資助三成新生 全免學費者兼獲津貼1萬

JustAParent

ElizabethLAI 發表於 12-5-25 10:26
I think it's better like SPCC, before it changed to a DSS, they had raised a big fund from the alumn ...

The school did it.  But you know, it is not easy for Heep Yunn to raise big fund from alumni donations.  Heep Yunn is well-known as a '平民女校'.  The financial strength of Heep Yunn alumni and even their families may not be comparable to SPCC ones.

In fact, DSS schools have the responsibility to ensure no qualified students will be
deprived of admission for financial reason.  If you look at the development of DSS
in the past 20 years, you will find that the DSS schools used to allocate a large portion of their income for scholarships and grants needy students.  At the beginning of this century, most of the schools reserved 20% of the income and some even reserved up to 40%.  In recent years, more and more elitist schools have been transformed to DSS schools and they charge very expensive school fees, 'DSS' is tagged as 'Aristocratic Education'.  DSS schools have also started to cut scholarships and grants. Instead, they have invested their income on fixed properties and even stocks.  Heep Yunn is not '慷他人之慨'.  From my point of view, '協恩式直資' is nothing new. It just brings DSS education back to its origin.  Maybe, at this moment, '彼此相愛 ，有施有受，愛即完全' is still a vision.  But I am certainly happy to see Heep Yunn moving towards it.  That is why I used '尊敬' instead of '尊重' in my original comment.

ElizabethLAI

回復 simpleway 的帖子

I am sorry that your conclusion is wrong.  This fee remission scheme could not screen out those with such personal value.  I know some parents from HY primary school, they accept the reality with grudge but they simply have no other choice only.

ABC-DAD

以前唔係直資都好多家長支持，轉左直資反而有家長覺得學費交得唔舒服，應該間間直資都有津助計劃、獎學金計劃， 咁同學唔使因為未來有經濟問題，會無書讀喎，唔好諗自己做老襯至得架，同學如果知道身邊同學因為自己交左學費，就唔使無書讀，會唔開心好，定開心好D？我揀後者。

santander

ABC-DAD 發表於 12-5-25 14:26
以前唔係直資都好多家長支持，轉左直資反而有家長覺得學費交得唔舒服，應該間間直資都有津助計劃、獎學金計 ...

" 老襯  "

呢樣野好難介定, 不過十分同意 來年2012-2013 S1的 HYS家長們, 你地接offer 之前一早已知交出黎既學費會點洗法, 為何而家先黎覺得自己做老襯呢 ? 好茅盾攞 ! 拖比受有褔, 也是一種榮幸, 既要入協恩, 就唔好又話人地點 sponsor 其他有須要既同學啦 !

Glau

我會更加"尊敬"付全費讓女兒入讀HY既家長.

ohnono

有家長話：協恩咁老襯！我黎交學費重比埋人家份過喎都唔要。

有家長話：佢收我都唔讀，要我比埋人家的學費，我冇咁老襯。

有家長話：唔好咁老襯，而家協恩有資助，有需要的家庭都可以去讀。

突然間我又覺得好似少左好多老襯！

ABC-DAD

用"老襯"呢嗰字眼係唔好，因為我唔記得點打Shi dai(X底)

santander

回復 ABC-DAD 的帖子

" 老襯 " 呢個字在70's 被廣泛應用, 因由 "許冠傑" 晿到街知巷聞" 你咪當我" 老襯 "  ~~~ " 你咪當我" 老襯 "

abc dad i think you like this song much

piggy-ma

Remission scheme allows more qualified girls to join HY.  Ultimately all HY girls benefited as the overall standard of their peer group improved.  For teenagers, peer influence is 所向披靡。

cellon

simpleway 發表於 12-5-25 15:48
ElizabethLAI,

I feel sorry that some parents have to take with grudge a school that will nurture their kids for coming 6 years. I don't think there is any problem with the remission scheme alone, but I do agree HY owe the existing Primary parents more consideration during the decision to turn into a DSS.

可否分享為什麼你覺得" HY owe the existing Primary parents more consideration during the decision to turn into a DSS"?

winnietingting

問題是：
受資助的是否真是沒能力附全費？

香港有很多人做生意和開鋪頭，賺很多都不用交稅。家長話交學費有困難，真定假？你肯俾埋佢個份？

cellon

winnietingting 發表於 12-5-27 12:59
問題是：
受資助的是否真是沒能力附全費？
香港有很多人做生意和開鋪頭，賺很多都不用交稅。家長話交學費有困難，真定假？你肯俾埋佢個份？

Free Remission Table: http://www.hys.edu.hk/english/feeremissiontable.pdf

winnietingting

原帖由 cellon 於 12-05-27 發表
Free Remission Table: http://www.hys.edu.hk/english/feeremissiontable.pdf

一年三萬學費又唔算好多（我有冇睇錯？），又唔洗咁計較。

Golf007

Papa_wong

原帖由 JustAParent 於 12-05-25 發表
對 !  「彼此相愛 ，有施有受，愛即完全。」這也和其校訓「協力藉恩，信主愛群。」相符。 希望那180位新生 ...

不過有—点是事實，我个仔讀私立小学时， 单是問老師拿份交通津貼申清表时，己给同学笑，令他十 分自卑。

Papa_wong

原帖由 redkoni 於 12-05-25 發表
我欣賞你夠坦白，講真，如果我樂善好施，我會選擇捐公益金，助養貧窮兒童，唔會自己呃自己，諗住付直資學 ...

認同你，既然系收就全部收，又要标签窮人，话有教無類，根本自打咀巴。

囝囝爸

分化教育、分化學校、分化學生！

美麗的理想。有沒有三成要心存資助的學生入讀，也是疑問？
理想總可以口說，現實要真實面對！

為什麼轉直資，提升競爭力？同類型學校九成學生負擔餘下一成資助生，你要七成負擔三成。同一學費金額，用於教學資源比其他學校少了約四分一，付費或非付費的學生教學資源也減了相等成數。不付出的不說，多付出反而比其他學校學生處於劣勢。學校和家長都可以嗎？

通脹猛於虎，學校之苦是要於支出和收費努力作出平衡，保持競爭力。直資學費有上限，過了上限政府資助會倒扣，再加學費會得不償失。SPCC  早一二年前已達上限，當然當局會因應通脹會提高上限，但學校如不審慎收支，非長久之計。

bgmame

感覺是校方有點兒過份理想化．
1) 經驗告訴我們政府規定的資助儲備是有高比例的餘額，而校方還要把儲備比率提高，有點兒難以理解．
2) 有點兒擔心，校方會有意識地選取要資助的學生，可能引致不公平情況．3) 如何監管？如何防止濫用？如何防止虛報？政府在這方面也有漏洞，更何況學校？不難令人擔心（做老襯）．
4) 始終學校是辦學的地方，無需硬要把學費和慈善掛在一起，可以有很多靈活的辦法．
5) 家長會因應自己的能力為子女選校，好學校有很多是政府，資助，免費的．如有經濟有問題，子女成績有一定(B1)，更應在區內選擇學校以便減輕負擔，不應轉嫁他人．
6) 當然歡迎學校提高水平，轉直資，如學費能調低至2,500或以下，更能乎合'平民女校'的期望．

JustAParent

Papa_wong 發表於 12-5-28 08:56
不過有—点是事實，我个仔讀私立小学时， 单是問老師拿份交通津貼申清表时，己给同学笑，令他十 分自卑。



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有關協恩近期的報導，我都深入了解過，也不是單純認同報章所說的。學生的申請都保密，相信其他學校也一樣，除非學生本人喜歡到處宣傳，況且協恩有清貧學生也不是什麼新聞。如果孩子為津貼自卑，請家長教他正確的價值觀。始終，能看不起一個人的，只有他自己。學校更無理由因少數人不好受，而令有需要的人無助。小時候，我第一次聽到「有施有受，愛即完全」，我說我才不會吃虧，我要做受的。校牧說，「你長大後，會明白施受者，可以是同一人。」 現在知道他是對的。