2024男校DSE成績

猴子爸

Sing13 發表於 24-12-17 10:49
大考網，唔識睇既睇排名，識睇既睇下面列出既數據。
聖言，5+ 35%，4+ 70%，332A 92%，全港排三四十相當合 ...

SJC，5+   %，4+   %，332A   %, 是多少？

KikiDaddy

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You can refer to thread #46 above for detailed DSE results comparison between SJC and SY.
SJC 4+% is 68.5%

SJC doesn't shows its overall 5+% but you can find the 5+% for each subject from its website: -

https://www.sjc.edu.hk/academic.php?content=result

For core subject 5+%, SJC is higher than SY.

Sing13

猴子爸 發表於 24-12-17 10:51
SJC，5+   %，4+   %，332A   %, 是多少？

SJC冇公佈整體5+，中英數平均5+ 37%
整體4+ 68.5%
332A 79.1%
最奇怪既是公民與社會發展2級達標率96.1%（全港平均94.1%），有五個學生志不在DSE。

Soundervolt

acgy 發表於 24-12-17 00:01
我覺得以教育小朋友成個發展來說, 傳統名校一定比地區名校好得多, 讀傳統名校的核心價值其實不是學業成績 ...

Patek Philippe主席Thierry Stern講過：「批評Patek Philippe名大於實嘅人係一尐從未或將來都唔會擁有Patek Phillippe嘅人！」

論準確，電子錶一定勝出，但Patek Philippe係另一境界。

猴子爸

Sing13 發表於 24-12-17 11:05
本帖最後由 Sing13 於 24-12-17 11:15 編輯

SJC冇公佈整體5+，中英數平均5+ 37%

即是话各有胜负，SJC摆明有些学生不会在港升学，或专注运动，hea读hea考，但劲学生就很劲。圣言学生却大多数老老实实读书考试。
两者根本就很不一样，学生背景不一样，成绩的公布程度又不一样，

KikiDaddy

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I didn't find the 332A% but the low % may probably be caused by the poor performance in Chinese.

猴子爸

KikiDaddy 發表於 24-12-17 11:26
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I didn't find the 332A% but the low % may probably caused by the poor performanc ...

但因为现在中文科的重要性降低了，如果比较入大学“名”的程度和学系“神”的程度，可能SJC和圣言也是不同的。

KikiDaddy

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This reminds me a famous ads "you never actually own a Patek Philippe, you merely look after it for next generation."
For some schools, long term inheritance is always more important than short term academic performance.

Poyau

猴子爸 發表於 24-12-17 10:51
SJC，5+   %，4+   %，332A   %, 是多少？

SJC | 聖言
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年份 整體 5*+ | 4+
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2024 22.3% 68.5% | 15.6% 70.6%
2023 16.1% 64.9% | 10.3% 58.6%

2022 20.1% 76.6% | 11.5% 64.5%
2021 16.5% 68.8% | 17.2% 67.8%
2020 16.4% 71.5% | 10.1% 64.0%

2019 19.3% 72.4% | 12.1% 69.1%
2018 18.5% 72.7% | 8.9% 61.1%
2017 22.7% 73.1% | 12.8% 65.4%

2016 18.2% 69.6% | 12.7% 67.9%
2015 22.1% 71.5% | 14.3% 65.5%
2014 21.1% 76.5% | 16.3% 64.3%

SJC
https://www.sjc.edu.hk/academic.php?content=result

聖言
https://www.singyin.edu.hk/zh/學生成就/公開考試成績/過去10年

Sing13

猴子爸 發表於 24-12-17 11:24
即是话各有胜负，SJC摆明有些学生不会在港升学，或专注运动，hea读hea考，但劲学生就很劲。圣言学生却大多 ...

所以大考網排名接近，32-50，40-58。
至於學校學生勁唔勁，睇數據整體5+已經可以反映。

我比較熟直資，今時今日，部分直資小學部已經衝出亞洲，赴海外比賽學習，每間學校如果比見識眼界公平咩？

所以最公平就是比成績，學校成績好，肯定是有啲地方做得好，亦都確保學生有好既出路。

Farther

Poyau 發表於 24-12-17 11:40
SJC | 聖言
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年份 整體 5*+ | 4+

過去10年，SJC 有9年的 5*+ 同4+ 比SY好

猴子爸

KikiDaddy 發表於 24-12-17 11:36
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This remind me a famous ads "you never actually own a Patek Philippe, you m ...

There is however a high risk of complacency in this kind of thinking, which may lead to lack of self-awareness and ignorance of fierce competition out there.    There were quite a number of famous schools in the past which went downhill and became mediocre because of that.  

猴子爸

Sing13 發表於 24-12-17 11:46
所以大考網排名接近，32-50，40-58。
至於學校學生勁唔勁，睇數據整體5+已經可以反映。

上面就是讨论这间事，成绩反映背后的原因，是两校的根本不同。
当然，事实上，如果有其中一方是压倒性的成绩，也根本不必比较，到最终，还是绝对实力的问题。

Blublubrew

SJC | 聖言
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年份 整體 332A2/33222
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2024 79.07% | 92.95%
2023 72.44% | 80%

2022 80.16% | 85.9%
2021 77.11% | 89.1%
2020 70.5% | 87.3%

2019 [·] | 85.4%
2018 [·] | 80.4%
2017 [·] | 80.6%

2016 [·] | 90.5%
2015 [·] | 81.7%
2014 [·] | [·]

Blublubrew

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係！

KikiDaddy

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Let me put it in this way. A school should holds its value, mission and vision firmly instead of just looking at the short term academic performance.

We all knows that a DSS school can get more resources from the government / parents and fully control its student intake - this can easily improve its academic performance. However, the Lasallian schools have never discuss to join the DSS because they knows that this will discriminate against those students cannot afford expensive tuition fees to receive quality education.

Throughout the years, SJC and its students have received lots of support from its old boys, so that it can have a bit more resources comparing to other government / subsidized schools. This is the inheritance I mentioned and its crucial to the success of the school.

Blublubrew

SJC | 聖言
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年份 整體 5+
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2024 [·] | 35.6%
2023 [·] | 25.1%

2022 [·] | 28.2%
2021 [·] | 35.6%
2020 [·] | 26.5%

2019 [·] | 29.7%
2018 [·] | 23.8%
2017 [·] | 32.1%

2016 [·] | 29.6%
2015 [·] | 32.9%
2014 [·] | [·]

lot888

一間地區男校，主要服務觀塘，九東官津小。又出過狀元，經費亦不多，有這樣成績已非常見得人。

猴子爸

KikiDaddy 發表於 24-12-17 12:21
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Let me put it in this way. A school should holds its value, mission and vision f ...

I believe the general public does recognize the good deeds of the LS Brothers for insisting on providing qualtiy education to the soceity at no charge, with the subsidies from the government and the support from the church and alumni.   It is just that whenever people start to say something like we do not care about the short term results; we have history, legacy, inheritance...etc, crisis is actually sneaking in quietly.
No big deal for now; just my two cents.

Poyau

猴子爸 發表於 24-12-17 10:51
SJC，5+   %，4+   %，332A   %, 是多少？

SJC | 聖言
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年份 332A/2率
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2024 79.07% | 92.3%
2023 72.44% | 80.0%

2022 80.16% | 85.9%
2021 77.11% | 89.1%
2020 70.50% | 87.3%
2019 80.13% | 85.4%
2018 84.78% | 80.4%
2017 83.09% | 80.6%
2016 78.60% | 90.5%
2015 83.45% | 81.7%
2014 87.97% | 85.1%
2013 83.54% | 87.6%
2012 71.84% | 77.0%

SJC
https://www.sjc.edu.hk/about_sjc.php?content=plans

聖言
https://www.singyin.edu.hk/en/school/plans-and-reports