聖若瑟書院 VS 男拔萃書院

twobirds

男拔，直資傳統名校，應該好過津校好多

猴子爸

vern99 發表於 24-4-7 15:33
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估計 IB 收生是睇 成績、性格和其他方面 等等因素，人數約60左右，所以中間3班是比較 ...

明白，謝謝

vern99

猴子爸 發表於 24-4-7 16:13
明白，謝謝

不客氣！
其實可能是 學校 對外公布的資料不多，引致 外面的家長  對學校有好多不明的地方！
如可以，見到和知道的，都會盡量解答！

cc_sylai

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其實直資一定好D，有彈性，資源Support好好多，有選擇一定選DBS

mjbabymjbaby

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絕對贊同  第時課外活動 練波練音樂  就會知道近學校好處  仲要係一間理想嘅學校  日日訓多起碼1個鍾 好過搭車中眼訓 朋友嘅野 小朋友未必明  多人一齊入同校 最後可能都係識左新朋友同其他人玩（過來人分享） 呢年代 轉個頭又可能移民  依家個個有手機 whatapp開個group大家保持聯絡唔難
我覺得同小朋友解釋下  唔好將朋友因素納入考慮因素 從其他原因客觀考慮

chitchitboy

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Well said, 正如將來選科，千萬唔好朋友揀果D，你又為了同朋友一齊而揀。

ivypooh

小朋友之前喺讀3C1D, 都係有early bird offer入咗去讀，現在F3, 如果計名次考入去，應該係DB難過SJC, 2間都係好學校，如果唔計學費，我會揀間近返學，始終係讀6年，日日瞓多半小時都差好遠(emoji)，另外DBS高中可揀IB, 當然亦都唔係個個適合讀

Sharenhooo

其實上年收成點都一目了然[img]blob:https://www.edu-kingdom.com/1332972f-b163-47b4-8a8a-742a6ec95b62[/img]

lameralibb

反而覺得讀SFA大多住九龍或新界，考得最Top班仔，應該LS & DBS 收晒，SJC 大概應該收考廿幾到五十幾嘅男生。

KikiDaddy

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It is not fair to compare the 3322 or 332A % of DSS schools with full control of student selection or subsidized / government schools with 100% Band 1 intake to schools like LSC or SJC with 1/3 Band 2 students in S1 intake from its feeder school.

If you take a closer look at the detailed 2024 DSE 4+ / 5+ / 5*&5** of YWC and SJC, hardly can you draw a conclusion that YWC is better than SJC: -

YWC

https://www.edu-kingdom.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3883732&extra=page%3D1

SJC

https://www.sjc.edu.hk/academic/dse/dse2024/

In terms of top students in 2024 DSE, YWC got 4 students with 4 x 5** while SJC got 1 student with 7 x 5**, 1 student with x 6 x 5**, 2 students with 5 x 5** and 1 student with 4 x 5**. The better performance of top students of SJC is in line with its better 5*&5** % in many of the core and key elective subjects.

Sing13

KikiDaddy 發表於 25-1-21 15:50
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It is not fair to compare the 3322 or 332A % of DSS schools with full control of ...

YWC同樣要收返自己小學既band2，band3生，而SJC冇收到band3學生。

SJC 5* 以上22.3%，4以上68.5%
YWC 5*以上22.4%，4以上73.8%

KikiDaddy

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Do you have the number of Band 2 and Band 3 students of YWPS promoted to YWC?
Every year, YWPS selects 165 P1 students from over 4,000 applicants thru 3 rounds of interviews. I'm not convinced the proportion of Band 2&3 students of YWPS is similar to a subsidized school with most of the students are allocated based on non academic merit.

KikiDaddy

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If your target are local universities, no big difference between DBS and SJC.
  
However, DBS will provide a much better support for the preparation of personal statement and interview regarding the application for top overseas universities. Besides IB is better recognised than DSE by most of the overseas universities.

In 2024 DSE, SJC has two top students are SFA graduates. One top 10 SFA student got 5 x 5** and one top 20 student got 4 x 5**.

Sing13

KikiDaddy 發表於 25-1-21 19:28
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Do you have the number of Band 2 and Band 3 students of YWPS promoted to YWC?

灣仔band2大概一半屬全港band1，英中既要求是85%學生屬全港成績前40%，如果sjc有超過20-30%學生屬全港band2，已經要英中落車了。而實際上sjc公佈既pre-s1成績比全收band1既聖言pre-s1更高。

至於英華升中學生有幾多band2或band3唔重要，種瓜得瓜，中學都要收返。多或少，全憑小學部功力。

KikiDaddy

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The requirement for a EMI school is 85% of its students are EMI capable which is about 40% of the population. This is more on the English proficiency but not the "banding" (overall academic performance). It is fair to say most of the Band 2 students of SJPS should be within this 40% category.
Regarding rhe Pre-S1 results, SJC only shows advantge over SY in English but not Chinese and Maths. This is because SJPS is a English primary school and also considerable amount of S1 intakes are from other English primary schools like SFA and SJAC.

Sing13

KikiDaddy 發表於 25-1-22 00:02
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The requirement for a EMI school is 85% of its students are EMI capable which is ...

「It is fair to say most of the Band 2 students of SJPS should be within this 40% category.」
前文解釋咗灣仔band2唔少是全港band1，唔止sjc，灣仔其它收直屬小學band2生既津校同樣唔使落車。

KikiDaddy

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Don't mix up English proficiency and overall academic performance or banding.
A student good in English but bad in Chinese and Maths can still fall under this 40% category.

KikiDaddy

Sing13 發表於 25-1-21 22:45
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灣仔band2大概一半屬全港band1，英中既要求是85%學生屬全港 ...

You mentioned that the good DSE results of YWC is due to the teaching effort of YWPS and YWC. This simply ignores the importance of full control over student intake.
If a YWPS P1 student is Band 1AA (top 5% - 165/4000), how high the chance he becomes a Band 2 or 3 student in 6 years? There should be some exceptions but I can't believe it would be a double digit percentage.

Sing13

KikiDaddy 發表於 25-1-22 00:41
You mentioned that the good DSE results of YWC is due to the teaching effort of YWPS and YWC. This s ...

全港最多人考，學術要求最高既應該是TSL,六年後都有一定比例既band2生。點可能唔超過雙位數？
考小學時，家長有心教前半年一年，就可以令小朋友學術上取得優勢。
學校楝學生，同時學生又揀學校。
間間直私都十裡挑一，唔見得間間成績都優異，都是講教學效能。
至於SJC唔使同人比，近兩年成績跌咗，回復2022時既成績就有競爭力。
YWC近三年成績升咗。