深圳摘星2025DSE成績

Vincegogogo

Dylanli2017 發表於 25-7-19 21:26
佢地係得英文差d,所以冇show英文

一定係啦。各個學校都是數據美化大師。

ireneyklo

twobirds 發表於 25-7-19 16:39
咪就係，冇係香港接受全日制2年以上教育的區外學生，想考DSE , 根本就應該另外出一份卷IDSE, 另外計分，行 ...

講得對，一早已經有議員講過要這樣做，要有IDSE，教育局可能不想做多份卷。

Vincegogogo

7月16日香港教育局局長蔡若蓮博士到訪王肇枝中學勉勵應屆香港中學文憑考試（文憑試）考生後，與傳媒的談話內容。


記者：局長你好，近年多了內地試場和內地自修生，可否評價他們的表現？他們來港會否加劇學位競爭？


教育局局長：我們留意到今年自修生的報考人數有所上升，但根據考評局（香港考試及評核局）所說，暫時須待考試報告完成後，才會就自修生和日校考生的表現有一個較詳細的分析，目前我未有這方面的資料。但我相信，自修生的數目對現時日校考生不會加大競爭。正如我剛才所說，現時我們有多元出路，每一位同學都應因應自己的能力和興趣作出選擇。

twobirds

retriever 發表於 25-7-19 21:18
咦？你feel 要我地卷DSE?
我淨係feel到人口政策，民族融和喎。

勁，「大局」都俾你睇穿

twobirds

ireneyklo 發表於 25-7-19 21:47
講得對，一早已經有議員講過要這樣做，要有IDSE，教育局可能不想做多份卷。 ...

可能之前怕唔夠學生，個pool太細，大學學額當時又唔多。

依家DSE 咁受內地學生歡迎，香港嘅大學依家排名勁，好受內地學生等國際生歡迎，非聯招學額又加咗，可以繼續加，政府又大大聲要發展教育產業，講真係時候搞啦。應該再推動下。

政府願意搞，分開兩條隊，最起碼令本地學生不會被逼加入軍訓式操卷的集中營吧，而願意留在內地讀書嘅學生自幼已經卷得樂在其中，咪啱哂啦，佢哋仍然有得卷。

大家開心融和。

twhkleung

twobirds 發表於 25-7-19 20:36
本帖最後由 twobirds 於 25-7-19 20:42 編輯

你iDSE個i字係乜? 国內学生, HK gov夠唔夠胆要佢地"i"???
內地各省市, 同一盘數, 同一个pool一同卷係公平的. 但HK暫时盤數仍然是獨立自負盈虧, 要收太大量內地生, 就会影响盤數的分配, 而盘數d钱是纳稅人的錢 (來自, HK人和在HK工作的非HK人)

PTL_L

twhkleung 發表於 25-7-20 00:18
你iDSE個i字係乜? 国內学生, HK gov夠唔夠胆要佢地"i"???
內地各省市, 同一盘數, 同一个pool一同卷係公平的 ...

咁CDSE得唔得？

mcl233

PTL_L 發表於 25-7-20 00:31
咁CDSE得唔得？

咁咪谷左去NJ，唔玩DSE內卷？～～～

哈哈，咁呀A呀B呀C一定拆天，又倒轉頭返黎去認同呀內陸考DSE生，唔會對港DSE生做成分薄資源了，loop去原位係合情合理了，唔好搞我呀～～～

twhkleung

mcl233 發表於 25-7-20 00:40
咁咪谷左去NJ，唔玩DSE內卷？～～～

哈哈，咁呀A呀B呀C一定拆天，又倒轉頭返黎去認同呀內陸考DSE生，唔會 ...

其实, 我覺得个root cause 唔係边条q, 而係个budget. 如果定議係本地生, 咁咪用HK budget (本地生quota), 其他就收OPEX + profit margin (另一個收生quota). 咁本地生定議係乜, 包唔包雙飛, 包唔包乜才物才, 领导决定(但要well defined, 唔好要估估下). 咁就算d 高考, 自修dse, 什致其它乜試物試, 种之你係乜生就入边个quota. 就算d **被全部搶哂都冇问题, 而且咁先真正係高等教育产业化呀吗.
埋个又入本地budget, 果個又入本地budget, 咁點样产业化泥賺錢?

Vincegogogo

非在港就讀，單獨命題是合理要求。大陸北京，上海都是單獨命題。
本地就讀時間夠三年，先可以算本地生，也合理。大陸跨省市高考移民有此要求，否則強省學生隨時去弱省pool，談何公平？

非在港就讀學生，大學學費有所區別也合理，當然這個學費影響不大，畢竟全額學費是17萬港幣一年，也並不貴。

KikiDaddy

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IDSE for mainland students with no HK residency wouldn’t be a problem at all. Such students are always considered as international students by local universities. Otherwise they can’t score full marks in global engagement for ranking.

In fact, our country are fighting for standard setting and discourse power with the western countries. We can promote this IDSE to the BRICS, Belt&Road and Global South countries and set it as a standard for applying local universities. It is not easy to create an English version of Gaokao but IDSE can serve this purpose easily.

As long as the JUPAS quota reserved for local students doesn’t reduced, more mainland and international students studying DSE can only benefit the local students as this can promote the global recognition of DSE.

Local students studying IAL/IB will suffer from this IDSE as the competition will be higher for non JUPAS. However, this may push them back to DSE and to a certain extent restore the fairness to the local students who cannot afford IAL/IB.

twhkleung

KikiDaddy 發表於 25-7-20 06:15
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IDSE for mainland students with no HK residency wouldn’t be a problem at all ...

Correct me if Im wrong.

1. Such students are always considered as international students by local universities.

(They are classified as non-domestic students)


2. Otherwise they can’t score full marks in global engagement for ranking.
(well....  見人講人话, 見鬼講鬼話, that's the beauty of the language ambiguity.)


3. As long as the JUPAS quota reserved for local students doesn’t reduced,
(could agree no more}


4. Local students studying IAL/IB will suffer from this IDSE as the competition will be higher for non JUPAS. However, this may push them back to DSE and to a certain extent restore the fairness to the local students who cannot afford IAL/IB.
(That depends… if the quotas are separated for local and non-domesticstudents, then the exam might not be such a big issue.)

KikiDaddy

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Non Local = International

https://www.cpao.hku.hk/qstats/student-profiles

https://admissions.hku.hk/fees-and-scholarships/fees

Mainland students and students from other countries are paying the same tuition fee and sharing the 40% quota for non local students.

Some DSE students or their parents still see IAL/IB as easier shortcut to local universities, competitive programmes like medicine in particular. More intense competition in non JUPAS at least make them feel more comfortable mentally.

twhkleung

KikiDaddy 發表於 25-7-20 06:48
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Non Local = International

I don’t think our Secretary would ever dare say out loud that mainland students are international.

(You know how tricky people always spin things to their own advantage)

KikiDaddy

twhkleung 發表於 25-7-20 07:42
I don’t think our Secretary would ever dare say out loud that mainland students are international.
...

Non Local is more politically correct although QS and THE still count the mainland students as international students for HK universities.

twhkleung

KikiDaddy 發表於 25-7-20 07:47
Non Local is more politically correct although QS and THE still count the mainland students as inter ...

某人口头婵: 我唔知, 我睇唔到.
(That’s the secret behind our ranking.)

jaycee_mami

無可能會出現 i-DSE，一來政治不正確，二來 i版本要改用全英文考（叫得國際試不能用中文和簡體字吧，否則其他國際考生不願意參加，問點解我要用非母語英文去考，但你就可以用母語中文？！ 大家不是在同一標準，其他國家的學生相信不會參加吧 ）

twobirds

技術性問題啫，好似網友話可以叫CDSE, 或者NLDse, 有中文卷有英文卷。

twhkleung

jaycee_mami 發表於 25-7-20 08:14
無可能會出現 i-DSE，一來政治不正確，二來 i版本要改用全英文考（叫得國際試不能用中文和簡體字吧，否則其 ...

又唔係禾, 去Koera讀書考韓文, 去日本讀書考日文, 去中国讀書當然考中文啦. 遲d DSE变成中文就真, 正如去清北讀的HK同学, 我估唔会用英文瓜.

Vincegogogo