港島東區第二志願

Anka

小女的Banding是band1中, 請教各前輩, 第二志願選港島民生書院(中中)還是中華基金中學(直資英中)好呢?  那間機會大些?

1. 聖馬可中學 或 香港中國婦女會中學  

(A) 組合                            (B)組合
2.港島民生書院                2.中華基金中學
3.中華基金中學                3.港島民生書院
4.衛理中學                      4.衛理中學
5.金文泰中學                    5.金文泰中學
6.中華傳道會劉永生中學     6.中華傳道會劉永生中學

(A)組合
如果第一志願唔得, 選港島民生書院第二, 中了, 便入唔到英中了.

(B)組合
如果第一志願唔得, 選中華基金中學第二, 唔中, 可能連港島民生書院都入唔到!

[ 本文章最後由 Anka 於 08-5-2 21:41 編輯 ]

Anka

這些資料藉得參考:

原文章由 khmama 於 08-4-28 22:06 發表


港島東的考生人數是4527人, 派位學額是2898 個, 即是自行階段後冇咗 4527 - 2898 = 1629 人. 當30%band 1, 即是1629 x 30% = 489人離場. 港島東的band 1生數目是4527 / 3 = 1509 人. 所以參加派位的band 1 生只有1509 - 489 = 1020人. 英中學額是 660個, 其中非保留學位585個, 直屬/附屬學額有75個. 直屬/附屬學額應該有100%是band 1, 即是有75人不會爭非保留學額. 所以最後約有1020 - 75 = 945 人爭 585個非保留學位, 即 1.62 人爭 1 學位 (成功機會是61.73%)

tsunami

"中華"按理會較多人apply!

Anka

原文章由 tsunami 於 08-5-3 12:07 發表
"中華"按理會較多人apply!

佢另外有Direct Intake 50個位, 比較多人做後備.

TakeEasy

School           : 中華基金中學
Langauge     : 英中
School type  : 直資 (average 1000 - 1500 per month)
                        It is the first batch of 直資中學 registered
                        before year 2000 so that it can participate
                        in中 一派位 with greater flexibility  while new 直                        資中學 won't.
Location        : 藍灣半島 with a good school enviroment
校風              : 整體都不錯 (feedback by other readers
                        who said they found their students can
                        talk to their foreign teachers quite
                        confidently)
Banding        : band1 tail with some top band1 students
叩門              : 50 for those applied to the school in 自行派位
                         in Jan, and its latest recruit in last month for their
                         direct intake where interview will be conducted
                         to select their students for 叩門.  No  walk in         
                         after 中 一派位 in July.
Others           : PuiTongHau Classes for Chinese language
                         for students who can communicate well
                         in PuiTongHau
------------------------------------------------------
School          : 港島民生書院
Language    : 中中 (use English books for one or two subjects  
                       but how it conducts English in the 中中 class is
                       not known. Maybe other parents can share this)
School Type : Goverrnment aided (no school fee)
Location        : Sai Wan Ho near MTR
校風              : 整體都不錯 (feedback by other readers)
Banding       : band1 tail
叩門              : less than 10 after 中 一派位 in July.
Others          : 中中 08-09 年度開始實施分班英中.
                        此微調方案 will benefit P6 students of this year.
                        If so, 民生 will not be better than the traditinal
                        中中名校 say 金文泰. Furthemore,中中分班英中                       微調方案, other 校風不錯中中 ,say 衛理 and
                       劉永生, will not be worse than 民生.

Anka

TakeEasy,

Thank you for your information and sharing.

According to the newspaper,

http://paper.wenweipo.com/2008/05/01/HK0805010045.htm

微調方案 will be implemented in 2009.  P6 students participate in Secondary School Places Allocation System 2008(SSPAS) will not be benefited.

I aslo want to know how 港島民生書院 conducts medium of instruction (English?)  in classes other than English Language. "Maybe other parents can share this"


港島民生書院 have 144 open places in SSPAS while  中華基金中學 only have 36 open places in SSPAS and 50 places for direct intake (deadline is 15 May 08. Needs interview and will not affected SSPAS)

It seems that the chance of allocated to 港島民生書院 is much greater than 中華基金中學 in SSPAS. Moreover, student can apply for the direct intake and SSPAS of 中華基金中學 concurrently.

TakeEasy

As I am understanding 中中微調方案預計於暑假前公布，若取得社會及學界共識，可提早一年於09年9月實施.

That means P6 students of this year will be in F2 in 09年. But the 微調方案 will affect students  in F2 classes of 中中.  For F1 class of 中中, they still need to teach all their students with Chinese.  After F1, the school will screen out which students are suitable for English class in F2.  Thus, P6 of this year is the first batch of students benefiting from the 微調方案.

Upon the confirm of 微調方案, 民生 will have to follow the other中中 to start English class only in F2.  In other words, for all F1 students in 中中 have to compete once again with other students in their school in order to get a seat for English class in F2.  The competition will carry on from F2 of 中中 to select capable students for English while unplug inferior students from English class.  That means a F3 student in English class may be withdrawn his seat if he can't maintain his result in F3.

With the latest press info, it mentioned the education bureau may only allow the max of 50% of F1 students in a 中中 school
to attend the F2 English class.  This quota is to uphold the difference of 中中 and 英中.

Anka

http://hk.news.yahoo.com/080428/60/2t63m.html

"教育局局長孫明揚昨向教育團體透露，當局傾向容許學校以分班模式用英語授課；成績屬全港前列四成的中一學生可入讀英文班， 其餘六成則透過分科循序漸進增加英語授課課時"

此外，黃均瑜昨向孫明揚建議，讓所有學生在中一時接受母語教學，至下學期應考公開試，再按學生在該試的表現，釐訂各校下學年中二的英文班班數，「學生會在中二時才分班接受英語教學，而且學校每年的英文班數不同，這可避免家長根據學校的教學語言選校。」但他引述孫明揚稱，現時中一下學期不設公開試，有關建議很「難搞」。

[ 本文章最後由 Anka 於 08-5-4 15:47 編輯 ]

TakeEasy

In my opinion, if you are band1 and want your child to study in a formal 英中, putting 中華基金中學 may be a good choice for those pro 英中 parents. Its 50 direct intake places are very highly competitively.  It will invite those band1  students in the first round of its 自行派位 in Jan, and in its advance interview for direct intake deadlined in mid May.  Thus I think the direct intake place will be very competitive.

For band1 child with 中中 choice, if putting 港島民生書院, 金文泰中學, 劉永生 and even 慈幼  within the first five to six choice, the choice for entering anyone of the  best 中中 in 東區 is very high for band1 child.  In fact, in term of study and history, 港島民生書院 is not much better than the rest but 港島民生書院 becomes the top of town in 中中 because they use English books to teach certain subjects for their best students.   Pls note that 慈幼 also follows 民生's approach to use English
books to teach certain subjects.  

However, the current 中中微調方案 for their 英中 students in F2 will make no advantage for 港島民生 and 慈幼.   In that case, band1 child for 中中, the best should be 金文泰, 慈幼, and then elther 民生 and 劉永生.  Finally, 中中微調方案  will be announced in this summer, it  will mostly likely affect P6 students of this year and will bring a relative big impact to 中中.  Or 中中 students may be another batch of white mouse in 中中微調方案.

Anka

TakeEasy,

Once again, thank you for your opinion.

My daughter have attended the interviews at 聖馬可中學 and 香港中國婦女會中學 in the Discretionary Places (DP) in March and April 08.

I would like her to study at an EMI school instead of a CMI school. I will apply for the direct intake of 中華基金中學 although the places are highly competitive.

There are many uncertainties of  微調方案. I share the same opinion with you that "students may be another batch of white mouse in 中中微調方案". For safety, I will put 中華基金中學 in the second choice.


1. 聖馬可中學
(B)組合
2. 中華基金中學
3. 港島民生書院
4. 衛理中學                     
5. 金文泰中學                     
6. 中華傳道會劉永生中學   

The SSPA Form will be submitted to school tomorrow.

TakeEasy

原文章由 Anka 於 08-5-4 20:22 發表
TakeEasy,

Once again, thank you for your opinion.

My daughter have attended the interviews at 聖馬可中學 and 香港中國婦女會中學 in the Discretionary Places (DP) in March and April 08.

I would like ...

Yes, both 聖馬可 and 港中國婦女會 belong to the top band1 英中.  If you don't choose them as the first choice in 統一派位, the choice of entering the school is very thin.

However, I wonder why you put  聖馬可中學 in the first choice instead of 港中國婦女會中學.  In this round of 統一派位, if your kid is of band1, then she should have the more/less same chance of taking either one in the first choice because of a random number computer-generated for each student.  If so, putting 中國婦女會中學 will be better than 聖馬可中學 in the first choice.  I am quite concerned about the overall school enviroment of 聖馬可 except you want your daughter to enter a religious 英中.

Thks to see that you agree with my comment above.  In fact, if parents "very surely" know their kids belonging to band1 and as a pro 英中, they should try all their best to enter EMI 英中,

LoveCandy

Take Easy,

I want to know why 慈幼 is better than 港島民生.  Do you think 慈幼 still a good school?  How's it's 校風?

BYW, If the child is band 1 tail and not studying not too 主動, do you think 英中is stuitable to him?  If yes, 中華基金 or St. Marks is better?

Thanks for your help in advance.

yellowmama

原文章由 LoveCandy 於 08-5-5 00:33 發表
Take Easy,

I want to know why 慈幼 is better than 港島民生.  Do you think 慈幼 still a good school?  How's it's 校風?

BYW, If the child is band 1 tail and not studying not too 主動, do you think 英 ...

係呀, 我都想知慈幼是否好, 會否有 d 古板 和 脫節嗎?

Anka

原文章由 TakeEasy 於 08-5-4 21:08 發表
I am quite concerned about the overall school enviroment of 聖馬可 except you want your daughter to enter a religious 英中

Do you mean part of the following article is referring to St. XXXX's School ?

成績不達標被踢出校
http://www.com.cuhk.edu.hk/ubeat/

"教育局卻聲稱基本上九年免費教育過後，只要合理解釋，學校即可自由處理學生離校問題"

I am not sure whether the above situation happens in other EMI schools? The situation may not happen when the 334 new senior secondary academic structure is implemented in 2009. The Govt. will provide 12 years free education to students.

Mercy

今年小六生減少了, 如果第二志願選婦女會, 大家認為還會有機會嗎?

MERCY

TakeEasy

For St. Marks, I am not only concerned about 成績不達標被踢出校 but also its external school environment. Its school building is very close to the nearby public estate. 成績不達標被踢出校 was spelled out by their students in other student forum.  You may search the net to find out how the way it use to 踢 its students out. Under 「三三四」新學制,
some students can be 踢ed out with the same method. Anyway, St. Marks is still deserved to choose in view of its HKCEE results which is maintained within 100 top secondary schools.

Since 東區 is lack of 英中 for band1 students especially for boys, St. Marks and 中國婦女會中學 will become one of their final targets. Therefore, no mercy for putting either St. Marks or 中國婦女會中學 in the 2nd choice.

In evaluating 慈幼, we should look at its history and background.  It is a long established secondary school for boys only. For boys school, it is harder to manage than a girls or co-ed school. In fact, 慈幼校風整體 OK as commented
by other readers in this forum.  Besides,慈幼 may be the largest school in terms of area in 東區.

For 港島民生, be honest, I have a little bias because I have contacted them before about whether they would hold a briefing/open day for public to let us know about its 中一派位 arrangement.  It replied that they don't have such events.  They said if I wanted to know it, I could come to his school to get a leaflet or visit its website.  Actually,I want to know how they 私下採用英語授課, particularly their
exam paper whether in English paper or in Chinese paper for their 英語授課 students.

Finally, I would like to share with view about 「三三四」新學制 and 中中分班英中微調方案.  In fact, the education bureau still not yet finalize how to run 「三三四」especially
the form of its final exam known as 中學文憑 to replace HKCE.  The fatal decision is to use what language to prepare for this final exam paper. Be it in 英/中/both.  If not guessing wrong, it must use 英 because most Unversities in HK will push to use 英 only including HKCU which is under its way to switch its Unversity as a kind of English University.
It is a fact of globalization.「三三四」's 中學文憑 with exam paper in English will finally push  all 中中 students to hell without any hope of entering a university.  

That's why  孫 明 揚 must push 中中分班英中微調方案 as soon as possible to avoid seeing 0%中中 students entering Universities.  孫 明 揚 has said in a press release that 微調方案 will help 中中 「 做 到 無 縫 銜 接 大 學 。 」 Do you believe ????  This 微調方案 must be another big debate and resistance in 中中 in this summer. That's why I said before, if your kid is definitely known belonging to band1, try do the best to apply 英中 even 直資  if you are affordable.  Doing so will help avoiding your kid to try 中中微調方案 in person as another batch of white mouse.  I feel sorry that I can't make any comment of band2 particularly band3 students. Their hope is linked to how 微調方案 is  conducted and then push our government to answer the arrangement of 「三三四」's 中學文憑 in Chinese exam paper for 中中.  
If so, HKCU may be forced to maintain as a genuine Chinese University for 中中 after 「三三四」.

Of course, if you are of die-hard supporter of mother-tongue 教育 to believe that education is for learning instead of
advancing oneself in future career, you can regard my final comment as bullshit.

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Take Easy,

Thanks for your information. If you have time, please tell us more about either your comments(secondary schools ) or updated news at this forum.

Support you!

TakeEasy

Try to think about how 中中 students to pass the English exam paper of 通識科 in 「三三四」's 中學文憑. The 通識科 is a compulsory subj for the entry of HK universities.  Both 中中 schools and 中中 students will be deemed the sacrifice of  「三三四」even with the help of the 中中分班英中微調方案.  

How can 中中 schools have the sufficient number of teachers and/or qualified bi-lingual teachers to teach their students in English for students in 英文 class and in  母語 for students in 中文 class with respect to the suggesting 中中分班英中微調方案.

The article about 母 語 教育後 無 縫 銜 接 大 學 can be found by the following link.
http://forum.baby-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=1307591

中中 / 母語 / 微調 ????? a "No Eye See" experiment for the coming next 10 years.