大仔去完HKU今年OPEN DAY 後發現.

Poyau

retriever 發表於 25-11-4 09:04
謝謝Poyau 一直以成績統計，支持壇內討論 。

DSE 日校 達332A+22 五科30+ 2.2%
IBDP 考生 40+ 9.3%
England AL 18歲考生 ≥4A* 0.7%

HKDSE
https://www.hkeaa.edu.hk/tc/media/press_release/press_release.html

https://www.hkeaa.edu.hk/DocLibrary/Media/PR/HKDSE25_ResultsReleased_tc.pdf

IBDP
https://www.ibo.org/about-the-ib/facts-and-figures/statistical-bulletins/diploma-programme-and-career-related-programme-statistical-bulletin/

https://www.ibo.org/globalassets/new-structure/about-the-ib/pdfs/dpcp-provisional-statistical-bulletin-may-2025_en.pdf

England A level
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/qualification-results-in-england-summer-2025

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/qualification-results-in-england-summer-2025/qualification-results-in-england-summer-2025-accessible

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/68ca9a4dc6df905ce77084ba/Qualification_results_in_England_summer_2025.ods

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謝謝Poyau資料 。
這個百分比很難直接比較 ，易有誤導 。

跟很多統計問題出在分母的選擇，這以個公開試統計，分母的定義有點差距 。

譬如，DSE 是一個普及的公開試，大概係本地普遍考的公開試 。

反之，IBDP 係一個selective 的公開試，唔係大部分普及教育的學生會去考 。

DSE可能跟高考比，或者其他國家/地區既普及教育公開試（Eng AL?) 比較會合適D。


再直接d 既類比，在英中達到一定程度英語能力，跟公海學生達到同等程度英語能力比較，當然百分比高很多，但不等於英中比公海容易 。


科大是用「錢」投票，定出各公開試的「同等」（難度/能力）。

cafeva

retriever 發表於 25-11-4 12:13
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謝謝Poyau資料 。

IB 全球都selective?

retriever

cafeva 發表於 25-11-4 12:39
IB 全球都selective?

相信不是大部分國家/地區普及教育一部分 。

以下是AI 查到5大先進地區的數據給你參考：

Here's the percentage of high school/secondary students enrolled in the International Baccalaureate (IB) Diploma Programme (focusing on full Diploma candidates, as that's the core "IB student" metric) for 2024. These are estimates based on latest available data—IB is a small but growing niche (global total ~200k candidates out of millions of secondary students). Percentages are tiny since IB is offered in select international or elite schools.

- **USA**: ~0.16% (96,760 IB students / ~15.5 million public high schoolers in grades 9-12, per NCES data). IB's big here, but AP dominates.
- **UK**: ~0.08% (5,256 IB students / ~3.2 million secondary pupils aged 14-18 in England alone, per DfE). Mostly in private/international schools.
- **Canada**: ~0.18% (12,566 IB students / ~5.5-6 million secondary students across provinces, e.g., Ontario has ~670k). Strong in urban areas like Toronto.
- **Australia**: ~0.08% (3,324 IB students / ~1.1 million secondary students in years 7-12). Concentrated in NSW/Victoria; ATAR is more common.
- **Mainland China**: ~0.006% (4,691 IB students / ~80.5 million high schoolers). Mostly expat/international schools in cities like Shanghai/Beijing—super low due to gaokao focus.

Poyau

retriever 發表於 25-11-4 12:13
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謝謝Poyau資料 。

不用客氣 England AL 有 GCSE 篩選
適齡考生 約為兩年前 GCSE 的四成半
AL 今年 282k GCSE 兩年前 643k

https://analytics.ofqual.gov.uk/apps/GCSEandGCE/SummaryStats/

Poyau

cafeva 發表於 25-11-4 12:39
IB 全球都selective?

IB 全球計 官校私校 約4:6
本地有學術上 Non-Selective
"Selective"在於要交學費(社經層面)

retriever

Poyau 發表於 25-11-4 13:56
IB 全球計 官校私校 約4:6
本地有學術上 Non-Selective
"Selective"在於要交學費(社經層面)

你說的6:4 比是among IB schools 吧。
Given IB students 在各大地區是絕對少數 （前引述AI 數據）， 這些public IB schools 可能是學術上highly selective 嗎?

retriever

Poyau 發表於 25-11-4 13:39
不用客氣 England AL 有 GCSE 篩選
適齡考生 約為兩年前 GCSE 的四成半
AL 今年 282k GCSE 兩年前 643k

對，英國有預科，咁計DSE可能要跟高考比百分比先合理些 。
見你Quote 得咁爽，我又quote 下AI 查到5大先進地區，IB 與當地主流公開試的比較：（其實最重要係AI 最後果幾句，哈！）

Here's a quick rundown of the major standardized exams for high school/secondary students in the USA, UK, Canada, Australia, and Mainland China—compared to the IB Diploma (a rigorous 2-year international program with internal/external assessments, no single "exam day"). These national exams are often the default for university admission, while IB is more common in international/elite schools. Data based on 2024-2025 education stats.

### USA
- **Major Exams**: AP (Advanced Placement) tests (subject-based, 1-5 scale; ~5M students/year) and SAT/ACT (college entrance, ~2M takers). AP is huge for credits; SAT/ACT for apps.
- **vs. IB**: AP is more widespread (0.3% of students do full IB vs. millions in AP courses). IB's holistic (essays + exams) but less common outside privates.

### UK
- **Major Exams**: A-Levels (3-4 subjects over 2 years, graded A*-E; ~800k students/year in England). AS Levels as stepping stone.
- **vs. IB**: A-Levels are the norm (0.08% IB penetration); more specialized/depth-focused, while IB's broader (6 subjects) and global.

### Canada
- **Major Exams**: Provincial exams vary—e.g., Ontario's OSSLT (literacy) and Grade 12 diploma credits; BC's FSA/Provincial Assessments; Quebec's MEES uniform exam. No national test; ~6M secondary students.
- **vs. IB**: Provincial systems dominate (IB at ~0.18%); IB offers consistency for international moves, but locals stick to home-province for uni entry.

### Australia
- **Major Exams**: State-based—e.g., HSC (NSW, ~80k/year), VCE (Victoria, ~50k), ATAR (national ranking from state scores). QCE in Queensland.
- **vs. IB**: ATAR/HSC are standard (0.08% IB); more modular/subject exams, IB's interdisciplinary but niche in public schools.

### Mainland China
- **Major Exams**: Gaokao (national college entrance, ~13M takers/year; 9-hour beast covering core subjects, scored out of 750). Zhongkao for high school entry.
- **vs. IB**: Gaokao rules all (0.006% IB, mostly expats); ultra-competitive, rote-heavy vs. IB's critical thinking/global focus. Chinese unis prioritize Gaokao scores.

IB shines for global unis (accepted everywhere), but these locals are cheaper/more accessible. Thinking of prepping for one? Which country? 📝

Poyau

retriever 發表於 25-11-4 14:14
對，英國有預科，咁計DSE可能要跟高考比百分比先合理些 。
見你Quote 得咁爽，我又quote 下AI 查到5大先進 ...

IBDP May 2025
--------------------------------------------------------
考生 | 40+
--------------------------------------------------------
全球 101,510 | 9,459(9.3%)
英國 5,064 | 941(18.6%)
本港 2,630 | 871(33.1%)

Poyau

retriever 發表於 25-11-4 14:14
對，英國有預科，咁計DSE可能要跟高考比百分比先合理些 。
見你Quote 得咁爽，我又quote 下AI 查到5大先進 ...

England AL 2025 18歲考生 282k
≥4A* 1.9k 低於 DSE 五科27+ 人數
≥5A* 35人[±2] 少過 DSE ≥5(5**) 人數

cafeva

retriever 發表於 25-11-4 14:09
你說的6:4 比是among IB schools 吧。
Given IB students 在各大地區是絕對少數 （前引述AI 數據）， 這些 ...

係有錢人玩既嗜. 又唔係select based on iq.

retriever

cafeva 發表於 25-11-4 15:01
係有錢人玩既嗜. 又唔係select based on iq.

學生學業成績，確係跟家庭條件有關，呢個係不爭事實 。
呢個亦係老美教育推行DEI 原因之一  。