覺得讀國際學校係浪費金錢是什麼邏輯

Adiezz

cheung7878 發表於 24-10-25 08:52
佢地無cut off ，係我自己衰心急帶佢考第二間小學 skip左y1 （等同香港嘅高班）依加出事yr 1又爆棚 好煩惱 ...

你無讀Y1 或 K3，點樣跳到班入Y2?

KafkaOnTheShore

zebrama 發表於 24-10-11 11:27
唔少人覺得讀國際學校是放養，其實家長拿定最適合自己小朋友嘅path最緊要

真實例子：現讀醫科生學生，自己 ...

吓,我聽聞因為讀醫個syllabus大,真係多野記,所以dse班人仲頂得住,ib/ial上去嗰班墊底喎。

2/1

我聽嘅版本係話ib嗰班 畢業成績好d

KafkaOnTheShore

2/1 發表於 24-10-25 13:57
我聽嘅版本係話ib嗰班 畢業成績好d

你個版本係咪香港讀醫, ib vs dse? 我咁問,係因為有外國既study,講ib大學成績好過 al。

2/1

yes hk, 有次係university fair, 個admission staff好general咁講

Radiomama

我認識嘅都係讀IB, 在香港嘅醫學院畢業，成績都係好好喎。不過其實我以為醫學始終係難嘅，除咗讀書背書，最難係對病人、臨床診症同做手術，所以醫學生嘅心理質素、性格合唔合得來更為重要。

Radiomama

cheung7878 發表於 24-10-25 08:37
英又要補 數又要補 開始懷疑人生 我個女係全班最細 同最大個個相差一年 程度爭好遠 仲叫我去做評估
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你呢個case, 唔應該去補習，不如搵返合適程度讀過啦，上番Y1最合理。

poonseelai

KafkaOnTheShore 發表於 24-10-25 13:49
吓,我聽聞因為讀醫個syllabus大,真係多野記,所以dse班人仲頂得住,ib/ial上去嗰班墊底喎。 ...

是否講早期dse好D, 之後去到畢業ib又唔差呀？ 前面位家長都有講初期操卷dse成績好過ib

cheung7878

Adiezz 發表於 24-10-25 13:33
你無讀Y1 或 K3，點樣跳到班入Y2?

佢大b讀pre k 足齡入y2

piglover

cheung7878 發表於 24-10-25 18:18
佢大b讀pre k 足齡入y2

其實學術同大細無咩關係。屋企人在神校做超細B，學術好過大過他一年嘅小朋友。

我小朋友都係細B，幼稚園係全班倒數細，但學術從不差過大他一年嘅小朋友。

piglover

一去到G3會更深，我小朋友學校G3用嘅英文reader，係好深。

你考慮一下，你會否用一年時間追到，小朋友可以獨立閱讀全字英文書。我講嘅係Charle and the chocolate 果d嘅英文書。

poonseelai

piglover 發表於 24-10-25 19:14
一去到G3會更深，我小朋友學校G3用嘅英文reader，係好深。

你考慮一下，你會否用一年時間追到，小朋友可以 ...

Charlie and the chocolate factory這本書適合6-9歲, 又唔係話好深嘅, 又不需要全部字都識也可理解故事內容, 好多孩子也喜歡Roald Dahl 的書

家長亦可考慮同孩子伴讀, 另一本Matilda 係我孩子伴讀致愛之一

KafkaOnTheShore

poonseelai 發表於 24-10-25 18:09
是否講早期dse好D, 之後去到畢業ib又唔差呀？ 前面位家長都有講初期操卷dse成績好過ib
...

其實我都係道聽途說:大即係幾年前有份報紙講,跟住好多家長朋友討論,話好多IB/IAL讀醫fail左d course, 暑假要返去讀summer course。不過我唔知係year幾。上面有位網友既然係引述adimissions staff,可信性應該高過我 lol

Moonlight819

2/1 發表於 24-10-25 15:33
yes hk, 有次係university fair, 個admission staff好general咁講

我聽到的也是讀考ib好過讀dse的，因為dse多是死背書上，但到了大學太多嘢記不是死背有用。

RainyRice

KafkaOnTheShore 發表於 24-10-25 15:27
你個版本係咪香港讀醫, ib vs dse? 我咁問,係因為有外國既study,講ib大學成績好過 al。 ...

你一開始提到DSE上到大學成績好過IB/AL，如果找到請問可否分享一下，可有興趣知，因為小朋友都要升中。

我上網找只找到大量話IBDP上到大學更加容易適應，IBDP學生在大學成績表現更好，大學很多都比較喜歡IBDP學生。我都怕這些研究報告有偏見，所以想找一些講DSE更加好的分析細讀一下。
但暫時找到個IAL更加好的都只是說未升上大學之前，iAL選科教集中，考試模式更容易攞高分等。晏啲再搵吓DSE V IB有關報道。

https://www.ibo.org/globalassets/new-structure/research/pdfs/uk-higher-education-outcomes-final-report.pdf 這份研究是從IBO網站找到，有理由懷疑不夠中肯。

https://www.internationalschoolparent.com/articles/a-levels-could-they-be-a-better-choice-than-the-ib/ 這個網頁是一間有iAL考的中學出的，所以應該會解釋iAL的好處，可惜文章裏沒有特別提到iAL vs IBDP畢業生升學之後的表現。“A-Level qualification has its fans, mainly because they allow students to continue studying only the subjects where their most passionate interests and talents lie. This can make the final two years of school a lot more motivating for some students and even give students a tactical advantage allowing them to score better in their final exams by dropping their weaker subjects.”
“Parents often ask us if universities value the IB as a more competitive diploma. In reality, universities know that each pre-University programme has its strengths and weaknesses and is unbiased toward any particular qualification. It’s much more important to ensure that your chosen curriculum is the right one for your child.”

poonseelai

RainyRice 發表於 24-10-29 13:32
你一開始提到DSE上到大學成績好過IB/AL, 第二個message講到外國的study 指在大學的成績，AL入大學的好過IB ...

https://lanterna.com/blog/are-ib-students-better-than-a-level-students/

How about this?

Not a huge difference though

RainyRice

poonseelai 發表於 24-10-29 13:42
https://lanterna.com/blog/are-ib-students-better-than-a-level-students/

How about this?

This is also showing that IBDP students perform better than (I)AL students.

But to be fair, AL and DSE are the default public exams which most students take, while IBDP is the selective and more costly option. It is possible families that support their kids through IBDP may care more about education and are more willing to put more resources towards their kids education. The same kids choosing AL/DSE might well perform equally well.
Of course we could also argue that the University acceptance has already eliminated most of such differences. I should read the IBO report in more details to find out, given all the statistics included in the report.

poonseelai

RainyRice 發表於 24-10-29 15:24
This is also showing that IBDP students perform better than (I)AL students.

But to be fair, AL an ...

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page 5 of the IBO 2024 statistics report:

Private school : 58.9%
State school: 41.1%

In Hong Kong, the IBDP programme is only offered by private/direct subsidy schools.  Not the same case overseas.

964000

RainyRice 發表於 24-10-29 13:32
你一開始提到DSE上到大學成績好過IB/AL, 第二個message講到外國的study 指在大學的成績，AL入大學的好過IB ...

邊個學制優勝其實好睇邊樣對自己有利。
好似數學資優語言冇咁突出的會揀A level。如果all round又寫野叻可以揀IB，因為IB 兩科language係必考，文科生亦一定要考數，香港好多IS係考完IGCSE又考IB，所以兩邊skills都有exposure.
但客觀講IB學的soft skills 係好過 A level/DSE, 我地都係大學先學research/ present / analysis，佢地自細學，真係理解哂才做到，比考卷更有意思。
A level/DSE就比較傳統，主要背書操卷。我各樣學生都有接觸過，覺得DSE最唔好就係唔知點解train到D學生永遠上完堂都冇問題問，好似沒有思考對個topic亦不感興趣咁我覺得大學之道唔應該係咁囉

poonseelai

964000 發表於 24-10-29 16:39
邊個學制優勝其實好睇邊樣對自己有利。
好似數學資優語言冇咁突出的會揀A level。如果all round又寫野叻可 ...

有家長話去到大學, 如果好大班人, 都係要靠背標準答案