Can schools influence student characters? 拔尖vs補底：如何選校？

sharons

picture 發表於 14-6-15 10:36
GSIS 過去幾十年來都是以學術超卓見稱！

貴子弟也是GSlS學生嗎? 也可分享貴子弟於校內情況嗎？

sharons

Ruby1219 發表於 14-6-15 10:07
其實我吾係好理阿仔的功課，加上佢響RC 只讀咗兩年， 仲要係初小，and已經係6-8年前既RC...所以我諗我吾係 ...

再請教，如英丶普冇問題及有第三語言在手如西班牙文對考插班有冇優勢?因為不是法、德語

shadeslayer

sharons 發表於 14-6-15 16:18
再請教，如英丶普冇問題及有第三語言在手如西班牙文對考插班有冇優勢?因為不是法、德語 ...

國際學校筆試多只考英文數學 (高中唔知係未一樣)。要求高的學校，英文要第一語言水平。有些國際學校學生考插班也肥英文。

Ruby1219

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再請教，如英丶普冇問題及有第三語言在手如西班牙文對考插班有冇優勢?因為不是法、德語 ...

Chinese and other lanuage not  for admission.  but as said,  english is mandatory and they request native English level in speaking,  writing and listening.

picture

原帖由 sharons 於 14-06-15 發表
貴子弟也是GSlS學生嗎? 也可分享貴子弟於校內情況嗎？

不是，只是幾十年前D interschool competition 見識過幾間IS 的學生。當年巳覺GSIS 學生相當優秀。

Ruby1219

原帖由 picture 於 14-06-15 發表
不是，只是幾十年前D interschool competition 見識過幾間IS 的學生。當年巳覺GSIS 學生相當優秀。



  ...

我都係聽好多friends 話識得讀GSIS 既學生， 一般都話佢地吾只smart,  manner 亦好好， 我當初就好有信心呢間學校值得讀。

sharons

Ruby1219 發表於 14-6-15 21:10
Chinese and other lanuage not  for admission.  but as said,  english is mandatory and they request n ...

英文應該不太擔心, 如考中文就死梗, 反而想知道G1 math會考咩範圍

HIHinsurance

GSIS 家長出現逃亡潮, 今年YR 13 最後一次, ALEVEL

第一年IB , yr 11 升上來yr 12 一級 都走左二十幾人

有些父母太老定 . 我叫好多家長跳船

無人聽我講, 因為是低FORM 的家長 ,.要求學校由ALEVEL 轉IB

最攪笑, 是此班低FORM 家長, 當年要求, 轉IB 的家長

逃亡晒去英國



當年佢考GSIS, 考英文卷, 同數學卷

英文卷, 第一fail, 第二次才合格, 過關

學校 製造讀書氣氛很重要

而家的GSIS 已經走向衰落, 入不到, 亦不需恨什麼



但反宜電子產品, 影響佢地讀書最多

好易打機打到走火入魔

最緊要, 不要選華人較高比例的學校

一多華人, 真係講廣東話

以後你就煩

間間國際學校, 教學差不多

愈大, 你就愈煩

今個SEM ,假期為例

CDNIS 個GRADE 11 某位IB  的老師

叫佢地, 假期自己睇

睇完, 返學就測驗........

我講緊HL options 的科...

根本, 佢地無人教, 點識.?

grade 10 前, 或year 11 前, 找到自己的理想

想做什麼

要找到理想, 在YEAR 11  ,要讀夠多科

在文藝 方面, 要多著手

這方面, 國際學校, 遠較LOCAL SCHOOL 優勝

LOCAL SCHOOL 好多人仲混沌

最好, 不要俾學生點讀英文做SECOND LANG 考IGCSE 的學校.BAN

IB 多人讀LANG B 英文的學校, BAN

IGCSE 讀得少科的學校, BAN

太集中SCIENCE 的國際學校, BAN(要多元化)

很多華人的,BAN

返學講中文的,BAN


其實, ESF 都已經不錯, 只要你不選群埋講中文那班同學

通常這批同學, 在小六 LOCAL SCHOOL 讀

之後 轉來英基, 識的朋友, 開始多中文

即佢地,在ESF, 最適合讀英文, 是在YR 7 前'
'
那些朋友, 就是講英文為主

Ruby1219

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GSIS 家長出現逃亡潮, 今年YR 13 最後一次, ALEVEL

你d posts 好得意， 鍾意用broken sentence,  我有時睇吾明。

HIHinsurance

Ruby1219 發表於 14-6-16 00:23
你d posts 好得意， 鍾意用broken sentence,  我有時睇吾明。

返工成日偷懶 ,上網

以前外國讀書, 返香港一少用., 英文好多都差晒

中文又差, 英文又差

我又無DOUBLE CHECK

結果成日詞不達意

講到尾, 其實GSIS 都係首選來

不過現在,只用來跳板

jolalee

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Wow, that's quite a bit of up close information. Thanks! May I know if your kid(s)'s in GSIS / CDNIS / ESF or another Int'l school?

I heard from my friend too that GSIS is not good anymore, but her reasoning is that the kids need to do projects that are too difficult for them and hence the parents need to get involved. That just sound like the parents are putting too much on themselves and not letting the kids try things out. It sounded a bit like CDNIS as well, although learning by reading and being tested on it is part of the aim of developing life-long self-learners. Do you think CDNIS is also on a decline?

If you say IS with too many ethnic Chinese are not good, how about CIS? They still obtain top IB scores in terms of schools with the entire student body taking IB.

I do wonder how GSIS will do switching to IB for the final years, and if they intend to adapt to the MYP program in the future. I do expect a few years of hiccups but I trust that in the long run they will still go strong.

jolalee

HIHinsurance 發表於 14-6-15 23:50
"grade 10 前, 或year 11 前, 找到自己的理想... 文藝方面, 要多著手"

Can you further explain what you mean by that?
Personally I "found" my dream profession when I was 11 years old, worked towards it, got into the faculty in Uni, graduated with my professional degree, only to find that I hate working in that field. After two years I changed field, never went for my professional license, so I don't think teenagers really need to settle for what they want to do for the rest of their life too early. Of course, knowing one's own strengths and weaknesses, and working towards a certain goal is always a good thing....

HIHinsurance

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Wow, that's quite a bit of up close information. Thanks! May I know if you ...

功課要父母參與?

點解我唔覺?　　

CDNIS 算好, 不過好多父母, 渣住加拿大藉

頭幾年IB後, 低FORＭ　父母驚, 轉左仔女走左去地利亞, 或者返加拿大

所以近幾年，　考入ＣＤＮＩＳ　已經相對較易

有一些大陸人來考，　又俾佢地考到，　佢地班大陸人仔女，返學唔敢膽講國語

ＣＤＮＩＳ　華人比例極高，　不過都算好，　同學都仲係講英文

CIS push 得好緊, 早期在DP 前, 都無乜野

DP 時, 一路測驗.... 不少人,MATHS, 由HL 跌落SL

SL 跌落STUDIES

整靚個grade

題外話，　ＣＩＳ　做ｐａｒｔ　ｔｉｍｅ　，　你ＣＩＳ　畢業的話，　

ＣＩＳ　老師暑假叫你返去幫手

８０蚊／小時．　一個月，　都賺到成萬蚊！

ＣＤＮＩＳ無ＤＥＣＬＩＮＥ，　表現平均

因為ＰＵＳＨ　得好勁

Ｄ功課真係好難

因為ＯＳＳＤ，　同ＩＢ　一次過

ＯＳＳＤ　起ＧＲＡＤＥ　１１，　ＩＢ　起ＧＲＡＤＥ　１２

要做２次ＴＯＫ／ＥＥ，　一次在ＧＲＡＤＥ　１１，　是俾ＯＳＳＤ　評分

平時測驗２個分，　１個分是ＯＳＳＤ，　一個分是ＩＢ　

最後一次，　就是在ＧＲＡＤＥ　１２做，　就呈上ＩＢ

實力較平均，ＣＤＮＩＳ　

　

HIHinsurance

jolalee 發表於 14-6-16 01:10
Can you further explain what you mean by that?
Personally I "found" my dream profession when I was ...

有一次，　英國一間排名不錯的中學校長來港面試

問了一條問題

問小朋友

知不知，　為何英國ＹＲ　１０－１１，　讀咁多科？

要學生，　讀ＳＣＩＥＮＣＥ，　歷史，　地理，　音樂，　體育，　外語，　經濟等

咁多科？

校長預期學生的答案就是，　讓學生，有機會接觸不同的科目，　找尋自己的興趣


興趣得三，兩樣者，　無理由，　乜鬼都係興趣

ＡＬＥＶＥＬ／高中／ＩＢ，　再選興趣讀



有一次，　ＬＡＷ　ＳＣＨＯＯＬ　的面試

中大　ＬＡＷ　，　一個是ＥＳＦ，　一個是ＣＤＮＩＳ，　一個是ＧＳＩＳ

ＣＤＮＩＳ，　ＥＳＦ的小朋友，　乞米咁乞學校老師，　整好ＰＲＥＤＩＣＴＥＤ　ＧＲＡＤＥ

推到６分，　夠分面試，　其實來面試都係應酬父母

所以面試時，　專登求其面試．．．．


被人迫自己不喜歡的事，　是很痛苦

痛苦的，　是兩代人

　

jolalee

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Haha you know so much about these school so up close it is amazing!

"功課要父母參與? 點解我唔覺?"　　
I agree, i think it's just a helicopter mom talking, that's why brushed off the comment. It could be a primary section situation too, and perhaps a foreshadow of going IB?

"CIS push 得好緊, 不少人,MATHS, 由HL 跌落SL, SL 跌落STUDIES 整靚個grade"
So you mean the 38 DP average is due to students taking subjects at a lower difficulty level? But their University entrance seem quite okay...

"ＣＩＳ畢業　做ｐａｒｔ　ｔｉｍｅ, ８０蚊／小時．　暑假一個月，　都賺到成萬蚊！"
That's 125 hours within one month, = 31 hrs per week = 6+ hrs per day for 5 days. That's not too bad at all for a high school grad/ Uni kid ;)

"好多CDNIS 父母, 渣住加拿大藉, 頭幾年IB後, 低FORＭ父母驚, 轉左仔女走左去地利亞, 或者返加拿大"
From CDNIS to Delia? You must be kidding me!! Scared? Because of PYP being academically weak?  Yes i have that worry too, but from other PYP parents (who are teachers themselves) i heard that by Primary 6, PYP kids going into GCSE has no problem at all...

"ＣＤＮＩＳ　華人比例極高"
Not anymore. Starting last year entrance into Reception: 70% non-Chinese. I heard they did it on purpose.
From existing parents: 30% Chinese, 20% other orientals (Korean, Japanese etc), 10% Indian, 40% Caucasian. Nice mix.

"ＣＤＮＩＳ無ＤＥＣＬＩＮＥ，　因為ＰＵＳＨ　得好勁, Ｄ功課真係好難, 因為ＯＳＳＤ，　同ＩＢ　一次過... 實力較平均"　
I had a friend with two sons, both graduated from University & working now. They went into CIS & CDNIS respectively around Grades 5-7. Why two schools? Because one of the boys did not have the grades to make CIS. From my friend i heard that CIS is all study study study, and the kids do find better Universities. However she likes CDNIS better for the well-rounded character molding. Perhaps this is old news? Is CDNIS very pushy now? Does kids still have time to do sports and enjoy life?

jolalee

HIHinsurance 發表於 14-6-16 01:38
有一次，　英國一間排名不錯的中學校長來港面試

問了一條問題

"讓學生，有機會接觸不同的科目，　找尋自己的興趣... 興趣得三，兩樣者，　無理由，　乜鬼都係興趣"
The interesting thing is, I studied 10 Credits instead of the required 6 Credits to graduate high school myself (yes I grad with OSSD). Seriously, there are crazy people like me who is interested in everything by choice: English, Algebra, Calculus, Physics, Chemistry, French, Technical Drafting, Fine Arts, Computer Science, (and hell i forgot the last one!). However, after such wide exposure I still chose a vocation i was deeply interested in, and still end up losing interest after working for two years. LOL. I take the blame 100%. [p.s. my parents never needed me to do anything great; my mom actually prefer that i'm a teacher and live a plain simple life. seriously she doesn't know me]

"中大ＬＡＷ　ＳＣＨＯＯＬ面試,  小朋友乞米咁乞學校老師，　整好ＰＲＥＤＩＣＴＥＤ　ＧＲＡＤＥ, 推到６分，　夠分面試，其實來面試都係應酬父母, 所以面試時，專登求其面試．．．．"
Why would they beg the teacher to help with the grade appearance and then 專登求其面試? That's not congruent at all. Either don't beg for marks & 求其面試應酬父母, or beg for marks & try one's best at 面試 (but probably screws up due to nervousness). This sounds like an excuse more then the truth.

HIHinsurance

CDNIS PUSH得勁啦

SPORTS? grade 11,12, 很少人sport

grade１０　前上唔夠ｐｅ　堂，　才會在ｇｒａｄｅ　１１，１２

唔ｓｐｏｒｔ　了

ｅｎｊｏｙ　ｌｉｆｅ？　你問問，ｄｐ　學生

暫時都幾痛苦下，　不過這些苦要受’

ｉｂ　始終出路較多，　除非，　佢地返加拿大

除非渣住加藉，　否則，　都無乜地方走，　又係要ＩＢ

今屇華人比例很高


有時父母，．當時送去ＣＤＮＩＳ，　不是為了ＩＢ


Ontario 　ＥＸＡＭ　以前

而家ＩＢ

http://www.cdnis.edu.hk/facts/ib-diploma-results.html

Ruby1219

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i never involve in my son's homework,  not to mention projects!! no way!  the reason why i put him in international schools is exactly i despise this practice being taken for granted in local schools!  
i think it really depends on parents.  i know international school parents who are very involved in her kid's homework,  i also know a handful of local school parents who are hands off.

poonseelai

原帖由 HIHinsurance 於 14-06-16 發表
CDNIS PUSH得勁啦

SPORTS? grade 11,12, 很少人sport

I believe sports is a must for DP, otherwise how can students fulfill the A (ie action) out of the CAS.  Probably GSIS gonna changes to comply with the DP requirements.

sharons

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喜見閣下深層次披露某些國際學校內部資訊 (雖然有某些還是看不懂)暮昧一問閣下可否試舉五所認為較理想的國際學校 (有排名更好) 並且原因何在?