Please share: Worried about their Chinese level?

HuiTung

Vrindavan 寫道:
>> My point is on choosing schools based on parents personal interests and hobbies, not from the children's perspective

this is very subjective opinion really.

Is that you "like your own culture" or " master a language for money making reason " is also a interest too ?

>> But as a Chinese, he must speak Mandarin and learn his own culture.

It is much better to be able to,
but it is not a must.

Just like a boy has to wear in blue color ?
a girl has to wear in red/pink color ?

Learning Chinese (Mandarin) and Chinese culture for a Chinese is of course not a must, but it is a SHAME if a Chinese does not know how to speak his/her mother language and to appreciate his/her own culture!

I happened to see a western man speaking fluent Mandarin on a train.  Would you say Mandarin is not important when working in HK?

I know a lot westerners.  They all appreciate Chinese culture but never forget their own ones.  Why we Chinese cannot do the same thing?

Do you remember a western teacher who insulted a taxi driver by saying "China pig"?  I know some ABC, they think they are foreigners and think that not knowing Chinese culture is not a big deal.  I look down on these people.  If you don't appreciate your own culture, you won't be able to be pround of being a Chinese.

I not only think of Mr & Mrs Jacky Cheung because of this, but also Michael Jackson - changing his skin colour and building up his nose so that he could look like a westerner!
   

Vaseline

stccmc,

你的英文寫得那麼好, 又注重中文學習,
很羡慕你的小朋友, 她/他真幸運.

如何在聽寫讀講各方面幫助兒女,
可以分享下嗎?

謝謝

HuiTung

stccmc,

"盲目追求西方文化" & "尊重自身文化及學習欣賞各國文化", 那一個才是國際學校真正的理念?  真係講多無謂.  

Vrindavan

>>appreciate his/her own culture

We can think about a question like what is the essential difference of Chinese culture compared to all the other cultures.

There are hundreds of countries on Earth. And there many different culture groups within each country too.

A person can take birth in any country, any village and group too.
And there are many cases that a person has left his/her home country for many years.

If we are bound by our own culture, people tend to think too much as to this belong to me, this thing does not belong to me or related to me.

As long as it is good, I will take it, no matter where it comes from.

As long as it is no good, i will not take it, no matter where it comes from.


>>but it is a SHAME if a Chinese does not know how to speak his/her mother language and to appreciate his/her own culture!

To me, I find nothing wrong with a Japanese who cannot speak Japanese.
Or an English person who cannot speak English.

Such person is just like you and me,
Living in the same planet at this moment.
I have no reason and have no right to look down on such person.

Every nationality is the same great people, mankind.

>> I happened to see a western man speaking fluent Mandarin on a train.

A western man can speak fluently any other language too.
It is just his choice to master Chinese language well.

A person know language A does not automatically mean he/she likes culture A.
A person does not know language B does not automatically mean he/she hates culture B.

melisa

Vrindavan 寫道:

To be, I find nothing wrong with a Japanese who cannot speak Japanese.

日本是一個民族性很強的國家，他們雖愛外國文化，但絕不會為了說流俐外語，而放棄自已本身的文化語言，在我認識的日本人朋友中，有一些都是在外國出生和長大，他們的日語說得很標準！

身為日本人而不懂說日語的，真的很少！

samyung

hangkeelong

無他, 地道的香港人先咁崇洋, 難怪,經過百多年英國統治, 無民族意識都正常,
不要太怪責他們.

HuiTung

samyung 寫道:
Hi Vrindavan,

Your opinion is interesting. You sound not a Chinese. You have a strong sense of the brotherhood of man.

Is there any place you really like? Is there any country you will do for? Is there any group of people you feel you belong to?

There are different cultures. The longer the history, the richer the culture will be. I think both Chinese and Western cultures are interesting. You'll appreciate it when you know more about Chinese. So open your eyes. Let your kids learn it.  

          

IngridMaMa

我都想講下自己的睇法:

我個女是讀international school (year one), 我同佬都是好細個移左出外國長大的, 我地的中文level不高, 但自問都okay架, 起碼可以應付在bk同其它媽咪chat  

讀國際不是問題, 最主要我同佬都覺得身為100%中國人(重要住在香港), 完全冇reason去support我地唔學中文

坦白講, 我個女在國際學校學的中文真是好淺(所以我有請tutor私人教她), 雖然她complain好hard(咪唯有比d小surprise, 如candy去encourage下她囉)

在學校breaktime, d小朋友好醒架, 香港人同香港人講中文,
日本人講日文, korean講korea文........完全冇問題, 我見個個小朋友上堂咪又講晒english, 我個小朋友見到日本小朋友咪又是講english

我的結論是, 比唔比仔女學好中文, 完全是睇parent, 我唔會迫個女要學到好叻, 但keep住日日學下認字, write數行字, 識講識睇都唔錯la, 我比得她讀國際, 都唔可以要她達到中文學校的level, 話晒她一週只上2堂中文 (不過我個女講中文冇走音架, 哈哈)

自己都有香港人朋友比仔女讀國際, 完全唔識睇又講得唔好(我都唔知個friend點諗), 不過我自己好反對這樣做  

Sandrine

So back to the original question: what do you do to help your children improve their Chinese?  The Chinese issue has been bothering me a lot too.  All along, my target is international school but after some research, I found that most international schools don’t offer much Chinese learning.  The choices are quite limited and the ones do offer more Chinese are a lot more expensive, e.g. Yew Chung ($128,535p.a.), Chinese Int’l ($97,630p.a.), Australian Int’l ($76,700p.a.), Singapore Int’l ($73,500p.a.), Canadian Int’l ($71,900p.a.) plus debenture or annual levy except Yew Chung. I do want my child to learn Chinese, at least to a level where she can read. If I can’t afford these schools, what are my choices? How can I help my child learn and improve her Chinese?  Can we have more sharing here please.

Vaseline

IngridMaMa,

我的情況跟你的十分相似.
從小移民, 中文程度不高, 但我十分喜愛中文,
一路keep住看中文書,寫中文信,d字都寫得幾靚架!:

我個仔都係 IS讀yr1, 之前試過 local kinder佢頂唔順,
佢同一個同學share中文tutor, 見佢地寫字好似鬼畫符,
覺得好好笑, 但他只得5歲, 我會等.
我希望他yr5 時可以看懂中文報紙,是否要求太低/太高?


stccmc,

我當然唔係 tease 你, 是真想聽聽你的心得,
相反有時幾佩服你對自己觀點的堅持.
雖然有時你不留餘地的反駁使人幾難受,
但如你說, speak your heart in the cyberworld.
我相信來bk的mama, 都是真心來分享的.

CherylMum

Re: Please share: Worried about their Chinese level?

[ 本帖最後由 CherylMum 於 09-11-4 16:50 編輯 ]

IngridMaMa

對! 等我都回應一下個title.

我是比我女私人一對一學中文的, 有諗過上kumon中文, 但最後都覺得因為上堂的時間巳經少, 單對單可以集中我個女的level上堂, 我女未入is year one 前, k1&k2是讀local kinder(因為我同佬要選一間walking distance的學校, 唔想坐school bus)

好好彩, 我女k2的class主任, 由9月開始轉做全職piano teacher, 我咪多口問下她, 可唔可以教我女中文囉 (因為大家又住得近).

好開心找到呢位老師, 因為她有好多年教kinder經驗, 好識教我女個age的小朋友(我女剛剛5 years old), 妳地都知啦, 好多人中文好叻, 但未必有心機教太細的小朋友, 呢個年紀, 連我都覺, 有時好難頂架! 呢個老師都好上進架, 以前我見她好late回家, 原來她重有進"收"

她好清楚我個女應該學乜中文, 她做左好多好大隻字的中文認字card比我女認字, mon to fri 都要write 1 pg 中文字 (得2, 3行, 共10個字左右, 所以一d都唔辛苦) 我個女又對她好有信心, 因為以前日日番學都見, 所以雖然complain好難, 但我女冇講過唔鐘意上中文堂  

同埋weekend去行街街, 我自己都有教下她, 如去食飯咪同她睇menu認下字, 睇下架巴士去邊, 在香港地, 行去邊都可以學到中文字啦!

Sandrine

Hi CherylMum,

如何教幼兒識字閲讀 by 胡雁

Is it the same as the book "How to teach your baby to read" by Glenn Doman?  I tried it but it didn't work out too well because it's very hard to find the time to do it.  I show 5 words per session and need to do it 3 sessions a day and have to wait at least half an hour between the sessions.  Sometimes we were not in the mood and sometimes we got up late and missed the morning hour to do it.  She made some progress though but it'll take a while before she'd own the words.

Remember my friend who put her daughter to Anfield. Her daughter now goes to Phoenix. She is satisfied with the school as her daughter can speak both Putonghua and English fluently.  She's taking additional Putonghua lessons after school.

Looks like what we can do is to make extra effort to teach our children (e.g. to read and to write) or put them to Chinese lessons.

CherylMum

Re: Please share: Worried about their Chinese level?

[ 本帖最後由 CherylMum 於 09-11-4 16:50 編輯 ]

summer123

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在家裏多多和孩子說中文。