Mandarin / written Chinese level at ESF Primary

Radiomama

bbcoco2 發表於 15-10-16 10:44
Thanks for sharing. The level of Chinese in ESF is much higher than what I expected. I had the impre ...

Your son is just fine! Maybe he is too tired for two schools.

annie40

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高中IB時考Chinese B or Chinese A，視乎學生的水平能力，母語是中文和由小一開始學中文，不是重點。

bbcoco2

ESF seems to be a great school, especially with the slightly lower tuition as compared to the other international school. But seems like the government might reduce the subsidy and the tuition might be increased significantly. Do you know if that's the case? Thanks.

annie40

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Chinese A 應該也有分兩至三個Level, 努力爭取留在最高level內，當中混有local School 轉校和國內來港的學生，教和學有要求，如果孩子應付到，可以進步更佳。
學校分配了level後，日後就算進步了，也不容易升級。永遠留在不當level內，不易進步。

Radiomama

bbcoco2 發表於 15-10-16 11:17
ESF seems to be a great school, especially with the slightly lower tuition as compared to the other  ...

It has happened already!

Radiomama

annie40 發表於 15-10-16 11:21
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Chinese A 應該也有分兩至三個Level, 努力爭取留在最高level內，當中混有local  ...

小兒日前跟我說，中文進步了，因為上課傾偈的情況減少了; 事緣每講一個英文字罰一分鐘。他說曾對老師說了'OK'就被罰了。

annie40

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自己在家，家教老師，均只是教繁體字，好處是香港任何地方的指示，通訊，，路牌，餐廳，均是日常溫習工具。
在學校用的國內課本全是簡體字，孩子完全看得明白，功課和考試，她一定用熟悉的繁體字作答。考IGSE和IB, 繁簡皆可接受，文句中繁簡混雜，亦可接受。

條路可以怎樣行，家長要自己衡量。

annie40

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看來中文老師開竅！多年來ESF老師是用中文䐉袋教中文，對住班鬼鬼地細路，無從入手，現在似乎好多了。

poonseelai

原帖由 annie40 於 15-10-16 發表
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高中IB時考Chinese B or Chinese A，視乎學生的水平能力，母語是中文和由小一開 ...

IBO’s requirement is MYP Chi A students should take Chi A in DP.

Activehealth

annie40 發表於 15-10-16 11:21
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Chinese A 應該也有分兩至三個Level, 努力爭取留在最高level內，當中混有local  ...

Not true, that's not what my boy's school head of Chinese department said in the parents' evening.
She said that the pathway which the student is allocated to would be subjected to review every 6 months in Year 7-9.

annie40

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haha, that is what they say so.  

However, there is no formal assessment to reflect the true improved ability of individual student in various groups. All depends on individual teacher's recommendation. Sometimes group teachers would like to keep several more ability students in the medium group to reflect the group's progress result good enough.  Students may have  ability to take something more challenging, but if they keep learning  小猫, 小狗repeatly , and teachers don't want to let them go.  It would be quite difficult to have progress consistently.  By the way,  group A is a place Chinese teachers want to boost up the number of outstanding students taking IB Chinese A (billigual IB students).  They would do the best to teach you for  the target.

I am not going to degrade ESF Chinese teachers.  It is kind of 人性.  Principal and other subjects teachers are Guilo, they know very little about Chinese Department.  Always I believe all students can learn,  Chinese lessons hours are sufficient.  If the way in teaching and the curriculum  are improved, ESF Chinese level would be much better as well.  

As a matter of fact I send my daughter to international school , I really don't mind her Chinese level.  However, she likes Chinese cultures and has potential to write well.  So I try to understand how to learn good Chinese? why some kids left behind? what's wrong with the curriculum? why most students feel boring in Chinese lessons?  is it any way to do it better?  I saw the waste.  Yes, students  can do it much better............

annie40

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if no MYP Chinese, only IGCSE, may I know how to classify?

Sorry , I don't know much about MYP

samsam123321

Del....

annie40

RC 独立于ESF, 建校初期已立志做好中文科, 在中文教学和对中文的期望是适度有为.真的很好

964000

原帖由 bbcoco2 於 15-10-15 發表
Any existing parents can comment on the level of written Chinese and spoken Mandarin for ESF student ...

My niece is studying in ESD grade 6 now, she is in pathway 2, but she never read any chinese story book by herself. She can't even read simple words in 繁體or cantonese。but she speaks fairly well cantonese with us。This happens quite commonly among her friends. Honestly the outcome really depends on individual interest in chinese. If one has no interest in it, it's really quite difficult to boost it.

964000

原帖由 964000 於 15-10-16 發表
My niece is studying in ESD grade 6 now, she is in pathway 2, but she never read any chinese story b ...

ESF instead of ESD

annie40

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Thanks for sharing your experience.  My child has left ESF for more than a year, my experience could be not update already. It is very nice to see parents who supports their children to learn Chinese consistently..  The results and progress are encouraging.    加油!

poonseelai

原帖由 annie40 於 15-10-16 發表
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if no MYP Chinese, only IGCSE, may I know how to classify?

RC’s website shows IGCSE first language will go to DP chi A and IGCSE second language to DP chi B. not sure whether this is IBO requirement.

poonseelai

原帖由 annie40 於 15-10-16 發表
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if no MYP Chinese, only IGCSE, may I know how to classify?

Duplicate

annie40

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I don't think it is under IBO requirement.  Because in my daughter's IGCSE Chinese 1st language group, only several are compulsory to  study IB Chinese A finally.

For your reference was a student who got Chinese 1st language , IGCSE result : A*, teacher said her IBO predicated grade could be approx. 5 to 6 in Chinese A (SL).   So I think it is quite a chanllenge to transit from  IGCSE to IBO.