Mandarin / written Chinese level at ESF Primary

bbcoco2

Any existing parents can comment on the level of written Chinese and spoken Mandarin for ESF students? I understand there is Beginner and Advanced level of Mandarin in ESF. Let's say if a student is in the Advanced level, will spoken Mandarin be very fluent and also can read and write traditional Chinese?  Thank you.

Radiomama

Which year?

Activehealth

我個仔剛讀完QBS小六，中文是最高pathway（native), 小六bench mark test 中文是寫二百至三佰字，阿仔寫了四佰字。所以絕不是一佰字咁少。

中文書係用星加坡小四中文，因為用了很多其他教材。他們讀了徐志摩「再別康橋」，成首歌都識唱，仲要背默。我都嚇一跳。因為我都係中學才讀。之前又唐詩，連王力宏首歌＂改變自己＂拎嚟做教材。

佢班上中文最好個女仔，成本文言文嘅「西游記」都自己睇晒明白無問題。

邊個話讀英基中文一定唔得。

wonderland07

請問有沒有外出學習繁體字？

Activehealth

我家里是説全英語的。

有出去補中文，簡體字、普通話。

bbtoday

原帖由 Activehealth 於 15-10-15 發表
我家里是説全英語的。

有出去補中文，簡體字、普通話。

請問在哪裡補啦？

annie40

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《西遊記》用經過提煉加工的活口語寫成，活潑生動，語言有散文、有韻語，汲取了民間說唱和方言口語的精華。善於運用對話形式，往往在對話中滲透人物的個性特徵。書中夾雜不少詩詞歌賦，而散文、韻文又穿插配合得非常自然。xxxx
西遊記並非用文言文寫。應該是像白話文多點吧。

Activehealth

annie40 發表於 15-10-15 23:05
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《西遊記》用經過提煉加工的活口語寫成，活潑生動，語言有散文、有韻語，汲取了 ...

根據維基百科，文言文是漢語的一種書面語，分為深文言及淺文言。
淺文言包括今日所謂的近代白話，比如「水滸傳」、「西遊記」等。

由於文言文並不是一時一地的一種語言，因此不同時代或地區的文獻，在語法和詞彙上會有差異。

Activehealth

我是讀番書大，家里全說英語，中文只知一點點，還望各位中文學養高的jm賜教。

Radiomama

我兒子也是正在唸Y7, 不過在RC, 所以是學繁體字，學校近年與朗文合作編製中文課本。Bench mark及assessment要求在全部ESF學校是相近，小學中文分pathway 1,2,3三組。
但如小兒，講普通話麻麻，讀拼音就可以，默書認字成績ok, 無補習，勉強在pathway 3,依家讀Chinese class A.

poonseelai

原帖由 Radiomama 於 15-10-16 發表
我兒子也是正在唸Y7, 不過在RC, 所以是學繁體字，學校近年與朗文合作編製中文課本。Bench mark及assessment ...

So your son must take Chi A in DP as well?

poonseelai

原帖由 Radiomama 於 15-10-16 發表
我兒子也是正在唸Y7, 不過在RC, 所以是學繁體字，學校近年與朗文合作編製中文課本。Bench mark及assessment ...

So your son must take Chi A in DP as well?

Radiomama

Year 7 only and we'll see.
There are two class A and parent like me would rather opt Chinese B for DP.

Activehealth

Radiomama 發表於 15-10-16 08:35
Year 7 only and we'll see.
There are two class A and parent like me would rather opt Chinese B for D ...

My boy is in ESF Year 7 and he is in Chinese class A as well.
Apparently they have been asked about their Chinese usage at home and their learning history in Chinese in the very beginning of Year 7.  

Not sure if your boy can opt for Chinese B for IBDP if your boy speaks Chinese including dialects like Cantonese at home and has been learning Chinese since Year 1.

wonderland07

請問大家怎樣看esf只教簡體字？香港是用繁體字。但外出補繁體字， 學校教簡體字，怕對孩子造成混亂。是不是不該執著用繁十或簡體字？

bomani

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These pictures were took from ESF's public showcase to demonstrate the students' Chinese proficiency and definitely it's a great sample related to this thread. Anyway, thanks to the dear moralist below, they're gone.

Radiomama

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ESF在上一代叫英童學校，對於一些非中文母語的學生來說，學簡體字已不俗。不過現在國際學校的中文課程多樣化，總有一間乎合你要求。

我自己是香港出生，繁簡都會讀會寫，無問題。

Activehealth

wonderland07 發表於 15-10-16 09:45
請問大家怎樣看esf只教簡體字？香港是用繁體字。但外出補繁體字， 學校教簡體字，怕對孩子造成混亂。是不是 ...

阿仔對繁體字係識睇唔識寫。
專登唔教佢繁體字，不想他混亂。校內默書寫繁體字會被扣分。

睇曰文卡通只有中文版繁體字幕都唔知睇得幾快。

我告訴他老師他的中文有一半是從看普通話大陸卡通及看日文卡通中文字幕學的，他的中文老師都哈哈大笑！

torunpoland

《西遊記》絕非用文言文寫成。或者，一般會說明清小說，半文半白。深淺文言之分，恕我寡陋未聞。文言文，一般指非詩詞兩賦形式的散文篇章，遠至春秋時代的作品（如《戰國策》），經漢唐宋至明清的著述；（如《陶菴夢憶》）。

與此同時，詩賦亦一直發展，至明清混集街頭說書（講故仔）的技巧，成為小說。此乃另話，總之《西遊記》不是文言文。

bbcoco2

Thanks for sharing. The level of Chinese in ESF is much higher than what I expected. I had the impression that after graduation from ESF (assuming studied from Grade 1 to 12), the will not be able to write a passage in Chinese completely.  

Any ESF parents out there that think they should have sent their kids to Local school instead due to the discipline and / or advanced level of Chinese (assuming going to a Chinese as a medium of teaching primary school)?

My son has been in both local and international school in from K1 to K3. His mother tongue is English but can speak Cantonese and understand Mandarin as well. But I notice that discipline is weak and has a hard time sitting still (he is only 4 years old) and the local school teacher is not too happy about that. The international school teacher seems to be totally fine and think it's normal for a 4 year old boy to be like that. So now I am undecided if I should send him to ESF or other English Local school (St Joseph, DBS, St Margaret, St Louis, St Francis).
Now it's very premature for me to make a decision as I don't even know if he will get accepted. But my choice is to repeat K3 and because he is a "small B" if he cannot get in a desirable schoool of my choice.