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發表於 17-1-8 19:09 |顯示全部帖子
Do not get me wrong. My kids are both at IS, I do not like LS from many reperspectives.  But I do not like to plunge 'happy' learning to a kid. Learning is hard overall and it takes time and efforts.

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發表於 17-1-8 19:09 |顯示全部帖子
LittleHoot 發表於 17-1-7 22:54
Why so many parents in HK want kids to be lawyers?  Don't understand!
唔係個個做到。主要是人工還是比較高。香港地生活指數高無財還是不行。每個父母都唔想子女生活太差。

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發表於 17-1-8 19:32 |顯示全部帖子
LittleHoot 發表於 17-1-7 22:54
Why so many parents in HK want kids to be lawyers?  Don't understand!
同問: 為什麼咁多家長希望子女讀醫?
講真,如果不是真的有興趣, 由大學一年級開始到實習到行醫,生活是無窮無止的讀書和評核,忙碌和壓力. 而且, 好難可以返轉頭.  

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發表於 17-1-8 20:01 |顯示全部帖子
LittleHoot 發表於 17-1-8 19:09
Do not get me wrong. My kids are both at IS, I do not like LS from many reperspectives.  But I do no ...
take time and effort 都唔一定係unhappy.

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發表於 17-1-8 20:12 |顯示全部帖子
IS學生其實都可以好懶,視乎父母點教育小朋友。
LS學生都可以高水準。
LS中文寫作大部分都好些。IS英文大部分都好些。
至於講普通話,IS學生可以做到發音好準的,講未必會差過LS,在普通話口語可能會更好。

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發表於 17-1-8 20:44 |顯示全部帖子
做人係應該不斷學習,不斷進步(learning for life). 如果不能有happy learning, 就是很可憐了。

其實可不可以有happy learning, 係要看看學校和家長有沒有給予小朋友正面的教育態度和環境,令小朋友愛上學習,有正確的學習態度。

學習態度是很個人,而且伴隨一生,反而老師/家長只是在旁邊給予機會、環境和支持,到了某時段就會淡出,要靠小朋友自己。

所以 happy 和 learning 應該並存,才可以learning for life in positive approach

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發表於 17-1-8 21:31 |顯示全部帖子
本帖最後由 LittleHoot 於 17-1-8 21:38 編輯

it is like climbing mountains. When you are at the top and seeing the views, you can feel every efforts or time are worthy ( or not worthy). But on the way to top, is not easy, it is a hard process. Sure, we can encourage our kids to enjoy the side-views of climbing, be positive. But only when yout kids reach to top, then they can draw the conclusion.






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發表於 17-1-8 22:26 |顯示全部帖子
要成功就需要付出,這是必然和必需。付出的過程可能係會辛苦,但不等於痛苦或者不快樂。過程可以艱辛但愉快的。

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發表於 17-1-8 23:33 |顯示全部帖子
小兒在 IB 小學時,一點也不 hea,反而老師要求十分高,因此多年來根底打得十分好。
然而在課程的高要求下,他冇話辛苦,即使在忙碌的 IBDP,他仍然可以有期待返學的心態,整體,返學是很 "快樂"。
學習路上,必要努力,但努力忙碌之餘,也可以快樂。
另一方面,亦不要假設快樂的孩子學唔到嘢。

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發表於 17-1-9 05:50 |顯示全部帖子

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本帖最後由 LittleHoot 於 17-1-8 21:38 編輯

it is like climbing mountains. When you are at the top ...
I myself had gone through the local hk education before going overseas, and concluded that much of my previous efforts studying in hk had been wasted and NOT worthwhile, especially the days and nights of studying and regurgitating the materials 'taught' by teachers. In the local education, for most teachers, 'teaching' means telling the students knowledge in the textbook, giving them a summary of the chapter in the textbook. If the students can 'remember' the materials and notes and reproduce them in examinations, they can score high marks. I don't find such skill any useful in university and the workplace. Much of that 'knowledge' has been forgotten. I don't want my child to waste such time.



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發表於 17-1-9 11:55 |顯示全部帖子
hkparent 發表於 17-1-9 05:50
I myself had gone through the local hk education before going overseas, and concluded that much of m ...
其實我自己十分懷疑學文言文的用途

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發表於 17-1-9 14:49 |顯示全部帖子
本帖最後由 LittleHoot 於 17-1-9 16:11 編輯

None of text book knowledge is useful anyhow anymore. It is printed, which means it is quite out of date. You learned methodologies from your teacher how to summarize, how to prioritize, how to prepare,how to get foucused ,which I believe are more important than 'knowledge' itself. And I hope you can appreciate a bit for those abilities you gained from your LS study.

Necessary training is important for kids, somehow, how much is enough. LS is very strong on training up kids' mind,  developeing fundermental skills,to my option.  But after certain age, they need to free up kids, so kids can practice those skills they learned from past few years and do something they are interested. Project-based assignment, individual or groups. Motivate kids with their own drive. That is the main issue I have with LS.
In terms of 'Happy learning', I think diff person diff view.

Saying too much on this thread, will just drop here.

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發表於 17-1-9 23:07 |顯示全部帖子
samsam123321 發表於 17-1-9 11:55
其實我自己十分懷疑學文言文的用途

It's not about practice use l. It's an appreciation of the language or text. You can read and understand a lot of ancient text if you comprehend it. Like Shakespeare. You don't know what you are missing if you haven't read it before. But unfortunately kids in IS have literally zero access to 文言文

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發表於 17-1-10 07:09 |顯示全部帖子

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Does IBDP Chinese B teach any Chinese literature?  I understand IS students can at most take Chinese B, not Chinese A.  I know English B teaches some English literature.



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發表於 17-1-10 07:15 |顯示全部帖子
hkparent 發表於 17-1-10 07:09
Does IBDP Chinese B teach any Chinese literature?  I understand IS students can at most take Chinese ...

Chinese B is easier. For 2nd Lang. No idea for English B as I believe IS requires English A only. And Eng Lang & Lit and Eng Lit are 2 subjects.

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發表於 17-1-10 15:11 |顯示全部帖子
ratafan 發表於 17-1-9 23:07
It's not about practice use l. It's an appreciation of the language or text. You can read and under ...
讀古文,起碼對我無意義。讀多一門modern language 好過。文學都可以有現代文學。

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發表於 17-1-10 21:05 |顯示全部帖子
hkparent 發表於 17-1-10 07:09
Does IBDP Chinese B teach any Chinese literature?  I understand IS students can at most take Chinese ...


There is literature component for Language B HL.
No literature at all for Language B SL.



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發表於 17-1-18 20:52 |顯示全部帖子
想問一下各IS的功課量是否很不同?

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發表於 17-1-18 22:12 |顯示全部帖子
本帖最後由 koala_xin 於 17-1-19 13:40 編輯

I had the chance to teach elite secondary students in university summer program, both from LS and IS. Some are just from quite normal local school, not those hot DSS or private schools.
I would say, top students from both LS and IS are really all smart!! They are equally good in many aspects.

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發表於 17-1-19 11:08 |顯示全部帖子
koala_xin 發表於 17-1-18 22:12
I had the chance to taught elite secondary students in university summer program, both from LS and I ...

Agreed with you! It really depends on individuals and how they are brought up by parents. Schools offer a platform for them to grow. They differ only in terms of atmosphere and style.