st paul (聖保祿) vs Sacred Heart (聖心)

KK07

spcs 中學有六班,因小學只有五班,每年都收外來生40-50個而F2後聽說收插班生是絕無僅有的. 我不太認同你的分析. 最高增值學校的意思是同時keep track F1入學與F5畢業生的水平,spcs F5學生進步比其他中學大才會被評為高增值的. 我同意兩間都是很好的學校,亦不應純從考試成績來分高低.

原帖由 小黑牛 於 11-2-21 15:42 發表
聽說因為spcs的名氣較高，所以吸引很多聰明的學生報讀，而spcs收得的學生一定是成績很好的，如果那班最top的學生全都選擇spcs, 那她們代表spcs在外考取的成績無疑會較好，相反如果那班最top的學生全都選擇入讀sh的話，那sh的公 ...

Cutemom0808

原帖由 KK07 於 11-2-21 16:05 發表
spcs 中學有六班,因小學只有五班,每年都收外來生40-50個而F2後聽說收插班生是絕無僅有的. 我不太認同你的分析. 最高增值學校的意思是同時keep track F1入學與F5畢業生的水平,spcs F5學生進步比其他中學大才會被評為 ...

聽說在SPC每年成績包尾的一班會被out走的，換入成績好的校外生，請問是這樣嗎？

Cutemom0808

原帖由 angrybirds 於 11-2-21 16:20 發表


太誇張啦

不是真的嗎？特別是小學，學生年年出出入入，競爭激烈，淘汰了一些人后又有更強的對手出現，學生都不敢放鬆下來。我只是聽朋友說，不知有做有家長可clarify？

weisscarton

原帖由 Cutemom0808 於 11-2-21 16:15 發表


聽說在SPC每年成績包尾的一班會被out走的，換入成績好的校外生，請問是這樣嗎？

你聽誰說?根本上絕對無此事.學生成績好是學校管理,編寫課程和老師用心教書, ST Paul Convent 並不是其他為争成績而從其他途徑吸立尖子的學校.

iantsang

Just wanna share a bit of my understanding.

According ot EDB guidelines, the information related to 增值 should be considered confidential.  Certainly I have read that report of SPCS and I am a bit concern why such information would be allowed to be published to external.

I happen to have a meeting with the principal of another school which have the highest 增值 in their district but they insisted they cannot use this information to attract students although they are really in need to do that.  This is how I understand the story in between.

The highest score of 增值 on the few core subjects is 9.  You may see this posted in some schools' annual report, but they won't include the comparison with other schools for other's reference.

One more thing, since SPCS has changed to DSS, do the students still take the S1 attainment tests?  (From what I learned, they don't submit the scores of P5/6 to EDB anymore)  If this is not taken, then how is the value-added scores can be derived anymore?

Anyway, just some more information for parents only.

原帖由 KK07 於 11-2-21 16:05 發表
spcs 中學有六班,因小學只有五班,每年都收外來生40-50個而F2後聽說收插班生是絕無僅有的. 我不太認同你的分析. 最高增值學校的意思是同時keep track F1入學與F5畢業生的水平,spcs F5學生進步比其他中學大才會被評為 ...

iantsang

no, this is definitely not true.  They will only ask the students to repeat in SPCS so they can catch up the progress, they won't ask you out like the way you mentioned.

原帖由 Cutemom0808 於 11-2-21 16:30 發表


不是真的嗎？特別是小學，學生年年出出入入，競爭激烈，淘汰了一些人后又有更強的對手出現，學生都不敢放鬆下來。我只是聽朋友說，不知有做有家長可clarify？ ...

weisscarton

原帖由 Cutemom0808 於 11-2-21 16:30 發表


不是真的嗎？特別是小學，學生年年出出入入，競爭激烈，淘汰了一些人后又有更強的對手出現，學生都不敢放鬆下來。我只是聽朋友說，不知有做有家長可clarify？ ...

小學更加無可能,每年每班唔見只有一,兩個,通常留班,移民或到外國升學,根本無人同你競爭,你只需主科合格便可升班,請你問清楚你的朋友講那一間小學.

weisscarton

原帖由 iantsang 於 11-2-21 16:32 發表
Just wanna share a bit of my understanding.

According ot EDB guidelines, the information related to 增值 should be considered confidential.  Certainly I have read that report of SPCS and I am a bit c ...

雖然不用呈分,但 S1個試都耍考,用來分班.

BabyHilary

請問spk幾時有結果?
2年前面試後有張通告話結果會3月17日後發出,
但今年冇收到通告呀!

iantsang

Thanks, so that means they still have the basis to assess.

原帖由 weisscarton 於 11-2-21 16:40 發表


雖然不用呈分,但 S1個試都耍考,用來分班.

Cutemom0808

原帖由 weisscarton 於 11-2-21 16:31 發表


你聽誰說?根本上絕對無此事.學生成績好是學校管理,編寫課程和老師用心教書, ST Paul Convent 並不是其他為争成績而從其他途徑吸立尖子的學校.

如果真是這樣就放心很多了，現在流言真多

Cutemom0808

原帖由 iantsang 於 11-2-21 16:34 發表
no, this is definitely not true.  They will only ask the students to repeat in SPCS so they can catch up the progress, they won't ask you out like the way you mentioned.

Ian都這樣說又放心了許多

weisscarton

原帖由 Cutemom0808 於 11-2-21 16:54 發表


如果真是這樣就放心很多了，現在流言真多

出面好多學校都 start with ST Paul, 或聖心, 如果大家有心儀學校,最好可以自已親自上學或放學時到學校觀察,好多時朋友講緊的學校未必是你所拺中那一間.

iantsang

haha, you mean the school names!  Yes, I think it has been like this for years!  Some people really cannot tell the differences among all these schools (e.g., St. Paul's Convent, St. Paul's Co-ed, St. Paul's College, St. Paul's Secondary......etc.).  They may not even be with the same religion belief!

The worst thing is they may hear this from others, and then when you clarify with them, they just randomly pick one campus which they assumed.

原帖由 weisscarton 於 11-2-21 17:02 發表


出面好多學校都 start with ST Paul, 或聖心, 如果大家有心儀學校,最好可以自已親自上學或放學時到學校觀察,好多時朋友講緊的學校未必是你所拺中那一間. ...

Baggio10

其實教育局那一條規例不容許學校向外透露學科增值指標?

cccbaby

原帖由 Tbaby 於 11-2-21 15:14 發表
點解無得比呢? 好似大家都係Band one級數
唔通band one當中仲有十個等級? 唔明?
咁band one當中SPK係第幾級?

其實band one 都冇official 嘅界定架啦，我唔見教育署有公佈喎。投其所好你鐘意俾幾多級就幾多級啦。不過你話大家都係band one 同spk 同級我都有所保留，unless 你只係指港島區。

小黑牛

原帖由 KK07 於 11-2-21 16:05 發表
spcs 中學有六班,因小學只有五班,每年都收外來生40-50個而F2後聽說收插班生是絕無僅有的. 我不太認同你的分析. 最高增值學校的意思是同時keep track F1入學與F5畢業生的水平,spcs F5學生進步比其他中學大才會被評為 ...

這個post真有價值！很多謝真正的用家出來分享！

iantsang

I don't think it is actually a 規例.  The information are distributed to the principal and required their signature to confirm non-disclosure.

You have information otherwise?  Please kindly share, thanks!  I would like to know too!

原帖由 Baggio10 於 11-2-21 17:40 發表
其實教育局那一條規例不容許學校向外透露學科增值指標?

iantsang

Banding information is also not allowed by EDB to disclose since 2007, in an attempt to avoid the "branding" effect.  But of course, they exist otherwise students cannot be allocated to schools!

They are now only provide to school principals (during S1 intakes).  It is probably not applicable to SPCS primary section anymore as they don't 呈分 anymore.

原帖由 cccbaby 於 11-2-21 17:41 發表
其實band one 都冇official 嘅界定架啦，我唔見教育署有公佈喎。投其所好你鐘意俾幾多級就幾多級啦。不過你話大家都係band one 同spk 同級我都有所保留，unless 你只係指港島區。 ...