06年培正K1....一齊交流下啦!!!

tkma

Icycream/彥彥媽咪,

I have also heard about teachers of PC 嚴 gar...her kid wrote words that were not "Beautiful enough" (a little bit out of space" got marks deducted ar....     So will this cup "忘穿圍裙 stamps or marks deducted affected the final 名 次, 成积 ga??

BTW, 彥彥媽咪, I have went through the link you provided, it is very informative and really solved the " 心结".  Now more and more hope my son to attend school at PC in the coming Sept     

Thanks again :wink:

彥彥媽咪

逐個答:

Cleo:

好多料呀，追唔到呀！ ==> 嘻嘻...唔得愉懶呀....你要慢慢睇先得架~~呵呵~~~     

彥彥媽咪

chickenwing:

Can we accompany with our kid for the first few days of kinder?
==>呵呵.....PC 當日連 interview 都未比我地d家長入去課室喇...咁你話佢地會唔會比你陪上堂丫...    答案梗係.===>唔得喇!! (頭三日陪坐校車就得)....話時話, 即使你親自送小朋友返學呀都唔俾你送到入課室架, 係去到個學校入口, then 小朋友要自己上去架....我地可以入得到去佢課室係得 (1) 開學日 briefing (2) 一年得個一兩次咁上下嘅家長會....(3) 上學期派評估報告個陣...咁大把架咋.....

所以 if 小朋友唔識返嚟講, 你根本唔會知佢響課室入面做d乜都有d乜響個樹..

不過呢個一向係 PC 嘅"特色"....佢地之所以咁"神秘"係要訓練小朋友嘅獨立能力, 要佢地可以好快就掌握自我照顧, 有乜要主動識出聲之類嘅 ability, somehow it may look "cruel" in other parents' eyes, but for me I found it OK and acceptable, bcos 細路仔其實適應能力好高架...好快就可以好叻架喇...唔駛太擔心....所以有時我諗, d人成日話 PC 鍾意收大仔大女都冇話冇根據嘅, 可能真係大d個d小朋友響呢方面真係較小小朋友嘅易好多....   

彥彥媽咪

Icycream:

真係好嚴bor.  若k1小朋友唔識拿出黎著. 咁老師唔會幫手? 好似唔fair喎
==> K1 個時都會, 會幫小朋友響書包拎功課出嚟添, 但去到 K2, 就唔會架喇...if 小朋友唔識自己拎d功課呀, 手巾呀咁出嚟交就當冇帶架喇....何況我個大仔係 K3 now? So 學校已 assume 佢地應該識點做至岩 (somehow 我都同意嘅, 不過都係提吓冇死架嘛 in my eyes   )...所以係好訓練到小朋友要自己學識緊張自己d嘢架...

試過有個小朋友就係因為慣咗比人服待, 個工人將條手巾仔放咗響小朋友個書包但又唔記得提個小朋友話有比手巾仔佢, 咁返到學之後老師檢查就問個小朋友有冇帶乜帶物呀咁, 問到手巾仔時個小朋友因為唔知原來係有手巾仔響個書包, 就答老師話"冇".....最後梗係又被 cup "忘帶手帕"喇...see...?? 個家長後來就去揾老師想"平反", 結果都係"上訴被駁回"架....         

彥彥媽咪

tkma:

will this cup "忘穿圍裙 stamps or marks deducted affected the final 名 次, 成积 ga??
==> 首先澄清....培幼係冇"考試", 只有"評估", 所以係唔會分名次, 每個學期派嘅 school report 只係就每項學科+能力 (e.g. 聽從老師指導 etc) 作出評估 (分幾個 level : 1=Consistently meet the standard  2=Ocasionally meet the standard  3=Consistently cannot meet the standard 之類, 係咪好似我地 business world D "appraisal form" 呢....    )

所以係唔會有名次嘅~~K1 - K3 都係咁.....反正個個都會直升小一架喇....so we dun need rankings...

cup "忘穿圍裙 stamps ==> any stamps put on the students handbook will only affect 個個月冇獎品囉, 其實就冇乜所謂嘅.....又唔係乜值錢嘢, 不過因為好多其他小朋友都會攞到嘛, 咁到時人人月尾老師派獎品而自己冇, 個小朋友又會唔抵得架喇嘛....明冇~~~      你知d細路好鍾意 compare ga ma....

    

彥彥媽咪

sofiama:

compile a list ==> that's a great idea and I got to thank you too for making such list....I will keep one myself too so that I could post it out every year .. haha...cos I could anticipate similar questions popping up all the time ga.....辛苦哂喇~~   

Onion

sorry, I leave here a few days as I cannot browse outside website in the company.


彥彥媽咪

tks for your useful and heartful info for all of us.
u work in Quarry Bay, I work in Taikoo place too.

oh, no, my home is in "head" station???, so poor !

regards, Onion

彥彥媽咪

Onion..

yes ar...I work at Oxford House right now...which bldg you are at? haha...see if we can meet for lunch bor......

Yup....青衣...一向都係頭站...... :-|  :-|  :-|

Britney

No la.  They changed the rule starting from September 2005.  You can accompany your child to the specific floor of the class room every day.  But sometimes parents would also walk to their room.  I always walk my child to his class room in the morning.

And for K1, you need to pick up your child at his class room when school finishes.  So, you can see your child's art work if posted on the bulletin board on the stairway.

彥彥媽咪 寫道:
chickenwing:

Can we accompany with our kid for the first few days of kinder?
==>呵呵.....PC 當日連 interview 都未比我地d家長入去課室喇...咁你話佢地會唔會比你陪上堂丫...    答案梗係.===>唔得喇!! (頭三日陪坐校車就得)....話時話, 即使你親自送小朋友返學呀都唔俾你送到入課室架, 係去到個學校入口, then 小朋友要自己上去架....我地可以入得到去佢課室係得 (1) 開學日 briefing (2) 一年得個一兩次咁上下嘅家長會....(3) 上學期派評估報告個陣...咁大把架咋.....

所以 if 小朋友唔識返嚟講, 你根本唔會知佢響課室入面做d乜都有d乜響個樹..

不過呢個一向係 PC 嘅"特色"....佢地之所以咁"神秘"係要訓練小朋友嘅獨立能力, 要佢地可以好快就掌握自我照顧, 有乜要主動識出聲之類嘅 ability, somehow it may look "cruel" in other parents' eyes, but for me I found it OK and acceptable, bcos 細路仔其實適應能力好高架...好快就可以好叻架喇...唔駛太擔心....所以有時我諗, d人成日話 PC 鍾意收大仔大女都冇話冇根據嘅, 可能真係大d個d小朋友響呢方面真係較小小朋友嘅易好多....   

Icycream

Britney,

咁就好lu. 係阿媽都想知多d小朋友既校園生活啦. 可惜我係working mom唔多機會去visit school.


彥彥媽咪,

請問你知否k1既老師們是否一直跟班至k3呢?

彥彥媽咪

Britney:

Thanks for your update....yet I think chickenwing concerned about 可唔可以陪上堂 rather than whether parents can enter the classroom, so the rule here is still the same, right? (i.e. no 陪堂??) Pls correct me if I am wrong

But 陪上課室我都知依家係鬆咗嘅.....不過我都知學校仍然希望小朋友可以自己上去, 不過若家長想上埋去, 就真係唔會好似以前咁話"唔俾"囉...
    

彥彥媽咪

icycream:

請問你知否k1既老師們是否一直跟班至k3呢?
==> No...老師年年唔同, 但同學仔就一樣 till K3, 小學先大兜亂 every year~~   

So it would be really good if you are able to know other parents starting from K1 ga...yet....my experience is.... not too easy la....     

Britney

There was a time that I was really in a hurry and asked my son to walk upstairs by himself but the 校工 said I have to take him to the specific floor ar.  校工 said she is not responsible if my son falls on the stairs.

SUSANNA

Britney
小朋友自己上課室其實吾會有咩大問題, 因為每層都有嬸嬸係到睇住, 這也是奮練小朋友自立機會, 不過如你坐保母車或自己送小朋友返學係可以送到佢課室走廊, 所以這點不用太擔心.

彥彥媽咪

聽見 Britney 咁講 ==> "she is not responsible if my son falls on the stairs" ==> 又因此引証培正d staff 真係好參差架 (我唔係話老師, 係d support staff), 好多 staff (我體驗) 係超級官僚, 仲有d可以話係"狐假虎威"添...好鬼晦氣架講嘢...所以我成日話培正教學我係 100% accept, but somehow D support staff (esp those from school bus) 真係好令人激氣~~

若老師在場, 佢地唔會咁架..佢地個個都好好笑容, 亦好幫忙, 梁副校長就更親切, 連我個百厭星見到佢都聽哂佢話, 真係好唔同....     

SUSANNA

彥彥媽咪
可能梁副校聽到你心聲, 所以佢每天上學時間都在走廊巡來巡去, 睇下有無小朋友要幫助 (這是保母EE話我知嫁)

彥彥媽咪

Susanna:

呵呵....梁副校長個樣真係好鬼得意 (我成日見佢四萬咁口, 加上佢身型小小, 圓碌碌咁...把聲又 soft , 令我覺得佢好"可愛"...嘻嘻....)...當年我就校車單嘢我都有 complain 校車部去到佢樹, 佢都好好心機幫我, 雖然最後都係冇計, 不過我都知佢盡咗力架喇....制度嘅嘢...唉...我都明嘅...唔係話改就改架嘛.....佢都好好心機同我解釋架喇...搞到我都嬲佢唔落~~   

Cleo

彥彥媽咪：

我個仔比較頑皮、喜推人(可能 scare 其他家長)，又時時喊，呢排時時俾幼兒園老師 complain，我實在有D驚第時佢會俾培正老師或 supporting staff label 佢，even 趕佢走。以您經驗及所見，係咪多數培正小朋友都好乖架？

Cleo

Icycream

彥彥媽咪 & susanna,

其實私校更著重質數/口啤啦. 不論老師/support staff/校車 etc...  收到complain, d校長唔會認真handle嗎? d staff唔炒得嗎? 仲要講到小朋友自己趺倒無人會負責 :evil: 就真係有問題喇.  

記得上次interview, 我拖住囡囡行樓梯, 好似3/f, 都行到我"疏"氣. d stairs都唔矮架 :-|

係丫...d staff (我體驗) 係超級官僚!!! 因我試過打電話問野, 如result etc..佢地都答得好鬼晦氣架    點解尼d感覺唔係出現係1-2個家長, 而係大部分家長身上況且都咁多年啦都改善唔到?!   須則教學質數重要. 但都要其他配合先係一所好既私校嘛 :-x

彥彥媽咪

Cleo..

聽見你咁講...我第一個反應係....好咯~~ 原來我個仔唔係 the only one....let me share with your my experience here~~

你依家講嘅嘢我大仔當年 K1 全部出齊...我每隔一頭半個月就收到 "feedback" (老實講...又唔可以話係投訴, 不過我成日都話老師揾得你傾偈多數係唔慌好嘢架喇....), 對"動感型"小朋友嚟講唔好話培正呀, 去到間間幼稚園都"蝕底"架喇~~ :cry:  :cry: 因為所謂"精人出口, 笨人出手", 成鬼日咁"活躍", 想唔俾人認得就怪...當時連隔離班d老師同學都識佢架...死未....俾人識佢曳有鬼用咩....  

當年我大彥都係咁...又反斗, 又自我, 唔鍾意人搞佢, 一搞就出手...etc..又好奇, 成日搞人地, 富同情心 (但就係好心得滯, 同學仔唔識做功課又成日走去"幫人", 人地唔識答問題又去搶答), 排隊又死要爭排第一,  結果響人眼中咪被視為"搞事份子"囉~~~ 同學仔成日覺得佢係"好曳", "唔聽話"之類, 有d小朋友仲成日告佢~~ :cry: 當時我為咗咁都喊唔少....我心覺得好唔好意思, 因為佢整親人, d"受害小朋友"就會返去同佢父母講係 XXX 推我呀...etc...搞到全世界都當我個仔係反斗星....其實唔係我呢個做阿媽嘅幫實自己個仔先咁講...我大仔係反斗, 但都只係一d典型嘅 "attention seeking behaviour"...this happens very commonly among kids ga la....只不過永遠出手打人個個就係唔岩架喇.. (但其實好多時係我仔先俾人撩, 佢就唔抵得頸, 要同人鬥咀, 打番人之類), 但d人睇唔到撩人個個, 只係記得推人個個, 咁咪衰哂囉....

當時我都成鬼日收到老師電話架 (真係好唔開心架, 都話打親嚟都係冇好嘢哇.... ), 好似你咁, 我都好擔心第日因為被"投訴"得多而要被"勸喻"退學....但有樣嘢你可以放心, 老師打比我唔係要"投訴"佢, 只係指出一d佢地見到嘅行為, 其他 support staff 點諗我唔理 (反正個班人有部份真係好鬼官僚, 你幾乖佢地都係對你晦氣架喇), 但最緊要係老師會點睇~~ 就住呢樣我好感激培正d老師, 佢地不單止唔會嬲佢 (可能因為佢地真係見唔少唔同嘅小朋友) 佢地對我仔仔呢d行為唔單止唔會 label 佢係曳, 反而會嘗試去欣賞佢一d正面嘅嘢...e.g. 佢幫人做埋d嘢只係好心, 雖然咁會搞到人地乜都唔識, 根本幫唔到人~~ 並會引導個d認為佢曳嘅小朋友去學識欣賞每個小朋友好與唔好嘅一面, 而唔會令其他人都對我仔有錯覺覺得佢好反斗....

再加上因為我收到"報告", 知阿仔響學校又曳咗, 我就又響屋企同佢講, 教佢唔好咁咁咁...要點點點....then 慢慢地..依家佢 K3 喇....已經好咗好多...起碼唔再郁手郁腳, 亦學識"忍耐", 咪成日爭第一, 雖然間唔中都會曳, 但有時我返去接佢放學時我都聽到班主任同我講話我阿仔仲有點曳點曳...但都加一句 : "但我真係睇到你仔仔比以前有好大改善..."...聽到我都好開心.....証明學校同老師都會對呢類小朋友係採用"包容"嘅態度, 咁我就放心好多喇....

係咪多數培正小朋友都好乖架？
==> 我以前都以為係, 其實唔係, 而係乜人都有......依家再聽完你講, 又回想起老師講, 我就知其實我地小朋友呢類情況係都幾普遍, 所以唔駛太擔心, 只要家校合作, 佢地一定會慢慢好架喇..

其實我仔曳我所感受到嘅壓力反而唔係嚟自學校, 而係嚟自家長咋...因為每個小朋友響父母心目中都係"寶", 尤其K1個時, 好多小朋友只係剛入學, 根本未識規矩, 亦未識與人相處嘅 appropriate ways, so 有時阿仔唔乖整親人, if 比較大件事, e.g. 小朋友可能塊面紅咗 etc...then 手續上老師都會知會"受害人"家長架嘛...就算老師唔講, 小朋友都會番去同父母講, then 現今社會...唉...一個起兩個止, so 個個都係"掌上明珠", 好多父母亦係初為人父母, 故自然萬分緊張, 好多時就會"大興問罪之師", 問老師.."邊個打我個仔架..."...etc...

老師雖然就係唔想大家唔開心都唔會 disclose the name of the kid who hit others...但有時小朋友自己會講嘛...then 個d父母因為未知哂來龍去脈 (e.g. 有時係大家小朋友爭嘢玩..so 兩個都有唔著 ma) ....又或見自己小朋友喊得犀利, 個心就痛, then 就 complain to the teacher 話佢地唔睇實d小朋友....唉....我都有教書架...我知有時老師都好難做....小朋友邊個受傷我地都唔想, 但一班 30 人, 又唔係坐監, 有時走漏眼真係一d都唔出奇, 而且好多"傷"都係小傷而已...唔係因為我個仔係冇事個個先咁講, 就算有事都咁話...小朋友受傷真係好平常, 我個仔都一樣有試過俾人打, 但只要唔係大吉利是, 只係小傷, 擦損之類, 我就會 focus on remedial action...以後可以點教自己小朋友 or 睇人地家長會點處理以後多過過只係去追究同埋怨點解個仔比人打咗...但可惜唔係每個家長都好似我咁諗, 好多時事情發生咗就埋怨甚至投訴去學校樹....呢樣先最難搞咋......因為我唔排除 (雖然我冇見過) if 個仔真係被其他家長"群攻"咁會有乜後果架喎~~~ 不過我就有聽過老師親口講過佢地係唔會趕小朋友走嘅~~

所以老師呢點都做得唔錯, 起碼佢地會真係平常心去睇呢類事件, 唔會偏幫某一學生又或指責某一學生, 會嘗試 balance the two sides la....咁對大家都係一件好事....

而我 so far 亦開心大部份家長都會明事理, 起碼大家會做好教小朋友嘅本份 (當然唔敢包人人都得), this is also one reason why I like PC...好多時讀書開唔開心, 學校固然角色重要, 但你d"鄰居" (即係同學仔 and their families) 都一樣有好大影響力架...唔知你同唔同意...??

嘻嘻...又長氣咗添....總之一句, 唔駛擔心, 老師/staff will not label students, but still 我地都要幫手教好仔仔架...唔係佢地都會好難做架..明冇.~~~~